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So the cables have been brought down to what looks like their finished positions.
Not sure how it was done, but they look like they should look. Webcam pics from today:


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Old Posted Apr 20, 2011, 5:07 AM
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i should note on here regarding questions about the Lougheed overpass many pages ago, the #1 eastbound lanes have now been shifted further north for a couple hundred meters beside the Lougheed overpass in order to build the next set of pillars for the southern end of the Lougheed overpass.
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i should note on here regarding questions about the Lougheed overpass many pages ago, the #1 eastbound lanes have now been shifted further north for a couple hundred meters beside the Lougheed overpass in order to build the next set of pillars for the southern end of the Lougheed overpass.
Also note that this is the final alignment for Highway 1 eastbound.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 5:48 PM
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They're finally going to start doing something to prepare for the Hwy 1 realignment westbound at Grandview Hwy. Detours in effect for two nights from midnight to 4am week of April 25.

http://www.pmh1project.com/construct...ayNEWDRAFT.pdf

More girders for the Lougheed WB to Hwy 1 EB flyover going up. Hwy 1 WB to Lougheed Hwy WB movement will be closed 9pm to 9am April 29 and 30.

http://www.pmh1project.com/construct...ampClosure.pdf
     
     
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Delta freeway opponents erect campsite

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Old Posted Apr 25, 2011, 5:20 AM
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If only it were being built as a full freeway...

But I would love to see Burn's bog made into a federal / provincial park and / or eco reserve.
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From the sky, Burn's Bog doesn't look very natural. There is evidence of a ton of agriculture, roads, berms, foundations, etc. I would say at least 80% of it still looks like it is farmed on Google Maps. It looks to me like it needs tons of rehabilitation to become "natural".

I don't know the history of it becoming a "green belt". At what point was it decided to pull out the agricultural use? And why is its current condition considered critical to preserve?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2011, 8:04 PM
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burns bogs has been called the "lungs" of Vancouver and it is its own eco system and unique to the area thats why its needing to be saved

i don't know when the cease development started in that area but a lot of it had been developed in the past clearly
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From the sky, Burn's Bog doesn't look very natural. There is evidence of a ton of agriculture, roads, berms, foundations, etc. I would say at least 80% of it still looks like it is farmed on Google Maps. It looks to me like it needs tons of rehabilitation to become "natural".

I don't know the history of it becoming a "green belt". At what point was it decided to pull out the agricultural use? And why is its current condition considered critical to preserve?
The burns bog area is the only fragment left of what once was wide spread riparian ecosystem throughout the Delta / Richmond area. There are many plant and animal species (particularly amphibians and birds) for which Burn's bog is their last significant habitat within the lower mainland. Have you never noticed driving past it how different its biological structure (clearly given away by the species of trees present and the shape of the canopy) is from the rest of the forested areas in Metro-Vancouver?

This is actually one of the reasons why I was hoping the SFPR would have been built as a full freeway, because adding interchanges is far more expensive than just adding more signaled intersections, so it could have actually acted as a developmental barrier.
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I'm pretty pro development, but if Burns Bog were slated to be developed I would join the usual band of nutters in their tents to protest.

The bog is such an important piece not just of the local ecosystem but of the whole region's air quality. It is a massive carbon sink, I wouldnt be surprised if it contributed to a visible difference in our air quality.
     
     
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Agree 100%, there better never be any development south of the SFPR along Burn's bog.
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Activists move to stop perimeter road project

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...d-protest.html

"This solution is 20 or 30 years outdated," said Stop the Pave's Richelle Giberson. "It's 2011. I think we can find more modern solutions than building freeways—the 1950s-style freeway."

what a ...TARD .... look at a 1950's/60's freeway ... then look at oh i dunno ... the GEB project ..... NIGHT AND DAY. not even in the same ball park.

whats next comparing the A380 or 787 with the de Havilland Comet?
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little late for protests isn't it?
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Its never too late for pot-smoking, Critical Mass-type people with nothing better to do than raise a stink about something they didn't pay enough attention to earlier in the game. It's only April 25th now, it took them a few days to sober up from their smoke-in at the Art Gallery to make their way over to their new tent site.

(Can you tell I don't support this kind of protest? ha ha..)

I was under the bridge and I took a few photos quick photos on my Crackberry the other day, but I'll post links instead of img tags:

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Since I seem to be having issues turning them somehow... they show up right-way-up on my screen, but when I upload them they've turned themselves. Sigh. Technologically challenged today, I guess.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2011, 5:04 AM
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The money has already been committed and the project is said to be 25% complete. Protesting at this point will accomplish nothing. They should have upped their efforts 3 or 4 years ago, if they really wanted to put a stop to the SFPR. If anything they should be protesting the traffic signals that will add to congestion and stop-go trucks.
     
     
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Just a note that there's a separate thread for the SFPR.
     
     
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Yah pretty sure this is about Gateway not including SFPR.
     
     
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I am really suprised it took them this long to mobilize. I was expecting them to show up two years ago when the environmental testing was finishing up. I am guessing the Olymipic protests and HST protests distracted. The liberals have been very smart about keeping the gateway project moving along with little fanfare. I remember driving to Abostford, when the supports for the new bridge were already higher than the existing Port Mann. Even with SSP and the news, I didn't know they had got that far. As for environmental concerns, I second what this CBC poster wrote:
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Right and they're protesting right by the mouth to Annieville slough. That's hilarious!

That area right upstream to the Port Mann Bridge has some of the heaviest industrial use on the whole route, a not for just a few years - try around 100. Fishing, Sawmills, train yards, Marine railway ferry, wood preservatives, wire and nails, Junkyards, Freighter docks, Shipyards and countless other small businesses called this area home to support BC's core industries of the 20th century.

If anything, the road will clean up a lot of garbage along the way that has accumulated over many decades.

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Also, the road goes theough so little of burns bog (map)

I leave therest of my SFPR comments for that thread. The bridge is really comming along. It will be Surrey's Lions Gate -on all the post cards with the 60 storey buildings in Surrey Centre in the back ground
     
     
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My biggest beef with the project is that they say they are committing to cycling with these projects but all we get from this project is funding for highway shoulders to cycle on which typically build up with debris from truck traffic and can also be used for broken down vehicles.

Why there is not funding for an actual greenway trail parallel to the highway is beyond me. The City of Surrey wants it, why is it not part of the project?

http://www.surrey.ca/files/Greenways_Map.pdf
     
     
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