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Old Posted Feb 4, 2012, 5:45 AM
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Only 8 lanes can open with the old bridge in place, after the old approaches are taken down, then the last 2 lanes can be installed.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2012, 6:20 AM
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I think they will finish the new bridge first before they dismantle the approaches of the old bridge...
About 2 lanes of the old bridge overlap with the width of the new bridge - so the approaches will have to be demolished first before the new bridge approaches can be completed to their full width. That's why the bridge is opening (and traffic transferred to the new bridge) before the new bridge is completed.
     
     
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Only 8 lanes can open with the old bridge in place, after the old approaches are taken down, then the last 2 lanes can be installed.
Aren't the first lanes of the bridge expected to open later this year now? with the old Port Mann bridge dismantled over the winter months?
     
     
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Bingo. And 2013 is when the full 2 by 3 by 3 by 2 configuration opens.
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asphalt.
Are you sure about that? All bridges in Metro Vancouver have a concrete surface (with the exception of the LGB, OSB, and QBB and the latter two have major asphalt issues).

Since the PMB will only have 2/3 side-by-side sectionals functioning at either bridgeheads, the 8 lanes on opening day will likely be crammed together (no shoulder lanes, no c/d set-up, no bike/pedestrian sectional, etc.).

Only when the 3rd sectional is completed on either end will the c/d system be in place, along with concrete median barriers and separate shoulder lanes for both the express and collector set-ups in each direction.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2012, 8:42 PM
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Are you sure about that? All bridges in Metro Vancouver have a concrete surface (with the exception of the LGB, OSB, and QBB and the latter two have major asphalt issues).

Since the PMB will only have 2/3 side-by-side sectionals functioning at either bridgeheads, the 8 lanes on opening day will likely be crammed together (no shoulder lanes, no c/d set-up, no bike/pedestrian sectional, etc.).

Only when the 3rd sectional is completed on either end will the c/d system be in place, along with concrete median barriers and separate shoulder lanes for both the express and collector set-ups in each direction.
It will have an asphalt surface, according to this >>>>> http://www.pmh1project.com/in-your-c...s/default.aspx . I'm no expert on the subject, but that could mean any one of a number of combinations of asphalt and concrete... or maybe 100% asphalt???
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2012, 3:05 PM
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Do we know for sure there's going to be 4 lanes going each way? I'm not sure if its been mentioned but could they also being going to a 2/3 C/D going east as that side of the bridge has no impediments for building to full width, whereas going 3 lanes west where the final 2 are restricted due to the old bridge. This would still result in their "time savings begin so we can start tolling idea" And would require less lane shifts once the final approaches are in place.
     
     
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That's what their website says.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2012, 4:41 PM
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Well, whatever the configuration is going to be... get ready to start paying this December. And from what we know, they're *NOT* going to be giving out-of-province plates a free ride.
I don't see why they can't squeeze in a 4 / 4 system with reduced shoulders, etc. I think the interm lane configuration may also depend on how complete the cape horn interchange is too? Just a guess...

On that note, anyone figure out how they're going to complete the Lougheed westbound to Port Mann (eastbound hwy 1) ramps? I doubt they can construct the ramp over the existing overpass because it would result in a much-too-low overhead for trucks. Perhaps we're about to see the Cape Horn on-ramp shut down for a period of time in the future? (yikes!)
     
     
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Haha, Lougheed at Brunette and the Brunette Interchange is going to be an absolute gong show. Maybe they can finish it in three months like they did with King Edward, during the summer season when traffic is not quite as bad. Still at that point, Golden Ears Bridge would be a much better way to go for those who value their time.
     
     
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I was wondering the same since I drive it every morning. I wonder if they'll provide temporary access via United somehow.
     
     
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there are plans for at least 3 towers south of hwy #1 in coquitlam along united blvd, one at the casino, a hotel/conference addition and two for the new residential community near king edward

i am sure the new tower on blue mountain will be visible from hwy #1 too
Are you sure about residential south of the highway as the land is mainly reclaimed landfill. Also there is the waste transfer site right next door and a paper recycling plant.

If the land is simular to the Ikea the towers will need some impressive footings and piles as the Ikea sure moves alot
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2012, 3:32 AM
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Are you sure about that? All bridges in Metro Vancouver have a concrete surface (with the exception of the LGB, OSB, and QBB and the latter two have major asphalt issues).

Since the PMB will only have 2/3 side-by-side sectionals functioning at either bridgeheads, the 8 lanes on opening day will likely be crammed together (no shoulder lanes, no c/d set-up, no bike/pedestrian sectional, etc.).

Only when the 3rd sectional is completed on either end will the c/d system be in place, along with concrete median barriers and separate shoulder lanes for both the express and collector set-ups in each direction.
On opening day I believe you will only have 5 lanes total maybe 6 as PK will need a lane or 2 to move equipment and also to act as a safety factor.

They might finish the overlay all in concrete as all the overpass are concrete so far. This will decrease the maintenance cost overall
     
     
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Are you sure about residential south of the highway as the land is mainly reclaimed landfill. Also there is the waste transfer site right next door and a paper recycling plant.

If the land is simular to the Ikea the towers will need some impressive footings and piles as the Ikea sure moves alot
The waste transfer plant's days are numbered. And the paper recycling plant shut down a while ago. I believe that http://www.villageatfrasermills.com/ is Beedie's website for the project.
     
     
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Port Coquitlam photographer Steve Smith took a boat trip on the Fraser River last Friday and captured a unique view of the Port Mann/Highway 1 project. Above, a crew raises a prefabricated steel segment of bridge undercarriage. The new Port Mann Bridge is expected to open in December.
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On opening day I believe you will only have 5 lanes total maybe 6 as PK will need a lane or 2 to move equipment and also to act as a safety factor.

They might finish the overlay all in concrete as all the overpass are concrete so far. This will decrease the maintenance cost overall
The last report I saw said 8 lanes on opening day, the final 2 when the old bridge is torn down.
     
     
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Yup that's what the news stories say, despite only 8 of the 10 lanes being open later this year they will still start tolling anyway citing significant time savings for drivers.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2012, 8:49 AM
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I was wondering something about this project. As great as it will be; what happens when all this increase in capacity hits the arterials that feed into and off them? I'm just thinking for 1st Ave. in the mornings. Either they adjust the light timings to make them at least 25% longer and perfectly synced up or there will be major delays on it. But that also greatly affects the arterials heading NB too, especially at Clark which is terrible on a good day. Is there any plan to keep the arterials in Coquitlam/Burnaby/Vancouver moving to the levels that we have today?
     
     
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Yup that's what the news stories say, despite only 8 of the 10 lanes being open later this year they will still start tolling anyway citing significant time savings for drivers.
Well all of the other lanes will be in place along the #1. I don't see a problem with that.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2012, 3:35 PM
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That's the 6-million dollar question.

To answer it bluntly... I don't think anything is officially planned.

I also think that the toll will, over time, have an effect on people choosing to live and work on one side of the bridge or the other. How much of an effect is anyone's guess.
     
     
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