When will Canada get a supertall??? - Page 13

Canadian Mind · #**241** Posted **Dec 6, 2010, 6:16 PM**

My guess is 1400'

Frankly, any chance of Toronto ever trying to surpass Dubai?

caltrane74 · #**242** Posted **Dec 6, 2010, 6:26 PM**

I'm still trying to figure out if the city is really backing a project like this. How do you finance it, is there a profit motive, or is this just for the citys ego.

I was googling to find any information on the project, so far unsuccessful.

The_Architect · #**243** Posted **Dec 6, 2010, 11:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Canadian Mind

Frankly, any chance of Toronto ever trying to surpass Dubai?

Not in this century and definitely not with this mayor..

Highinthesky · #**244** Posted **Dec 9, 2010, 8:51 PM**

Since I started to notice a lot of repeats. One thing I don't understand is that people think the CN Tower will be some kind of hindrance to supertall construction in Toronto. Isn't supertall anything over 300 meters? Isn't the CN Tower over 550 meters? Seems like there is lots of room for a supertall that would still look super short side by side to the CN Tower.

Traynor · #**245** Posted **Dec 9, 2010, 9:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Highinthesky

Since I started to notice a lot of repeats. One thing I don't understand is that people think the CN Tower will be some kind of hindrance to supertall construction in Toronto. Isn't supertall anything over 300 meters? Isn't the CN Tower over 550 meters? Seems like there is lots of room for a supertall that would still look super short side by side to the CN Tower.

Those are the one-track-wieners that think there can only be one observation/tourist attraction in any city. They see the CN Tower as the highest point for tourists and anything else close, will shut it down.

Try and tell that to the builders in Shanghai or any Chinese metropolis these days. Heck! Even New York had ESB, GE and WTC, just to name three, but that seems beyond the comprehension of some people.

Not to mention, perhaps said supertall would be all-office or all-condo with no public access, has not even filtered into their consciousness.

kiwi4life · #**246** Posted **Dec 15, 2010, 2:40 AM**

it would be quite amazing if canada does get a supertall within the next 20 yrs

MolsonExport · #**247** Posted **Dec 15, 2010, 2:49 AM**

Dubai will soon be eclipsed. Perhaps by somewhere else in the middle east. But the real clout in future skyscraperland is East and South Asia. They got the population, density and economic growth/power (and, lack of Nimbyism) to make it happen....for a fuggin long time. I mean, really, with India alone having 41 times Canada's population, and with China's 44 times Canada's population, where would you place your bets?

caltrane74 · #**248** Posted **Dec 15, 2010, 4:58 AM**

The one thing the burj khalifa and petronas towers has shown me, is that you dont need to build a supersupertall to have a very amazing skyline.

Singapore, Toronto and Sydney all have better skylines than Dubai or Kula lampor.

Dwils01 · #**249** Posted **Dec 15, 2010, 1:48 PM**

I would like to think that a supertall can be constructed in Toronto taller than the sky pod on the CN Tower. If there was a building to be built, I would like it to be in the CBD around Younge and Adelaide.
Traynor is right that a city can have more than one tower to have an observation deck in a city. I have been to Chicago and went into the Sears Tower and John Hancock Centre and both of those places were crowded when I was there. But just because you build a supertall, doesn't mean that there has to be an observation level on it.

kool maudit · #**250** Posted **Dec 15, 2010, 3:39 PM**

it reminds me of jean drapeau's expo-era plans for a similarly-sized tower in montreal's port area:

yaletown_fella · #**251** Posted **Jan 25, 2011, 3:56 PM**

Trump would've had the potential to be a supertall if they had chosen a Yorkville location.

MolsonExport · #**252** Posted **Jan 25, 2011, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by kool maudit

it reminds me of jean drapeau's expo-era plans for a similarly-sized tower in montreal's port area:

I remember that (well, my parents do, at least). What a fugly tower. After the CN tower in Toronto went up, Drapeau also proposed a tower atop the mountain, which would have had an accesspoint from a trainstation under the mountain (Elevator up through the mountain, and then up again into the tower).

Also, his plan to reassemble (temporarily) the Eiffel tower in Montreal for Expo '67.

kool maudit · #**253** Posted **Jan 25, 2011, 4:32 PM**

if we got a tower on the mountain, montreal would look like a prussian army helmet.

MolsonExport · #**254** Posted **Jan 25, 2011, 6:48 PM**

If turned sideways, the big-owe tower (and adjacent stadium) rather looks like a semi-erect penis with scrotum.

national geographic

MolsonExport · #**255** Posted **Jan 25, 2011, 7:07 PM**

Nah. Wasn't thinking about the Natalie Portman/Mila Kunis scene.

A prominent member of a visiting Japanese delegation made the exclamation (Back in the 80s when the tower was being completed, some 10 years after the Olympics, the Japanese guy exclaimed: It looks just like a man's part!), which received coverage in the Gazette newspaper.

caltrane74 · #**256** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 12:27 AM**

Well, Well Well the application is in for Canada's first supertall the Rumour Mill is heating up

from automation gallery at urban toronto

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Holy Mackerel, could this be the big one....someone please fill in the blanks From city planning today, Development Projects

50 BLOOR ST W Ward 27 - Tor & E.York District Related Applications OPA / Rezoning Application Number 12 141351 STE 27 OZ Application Status ---Planner Name Phone Number --- Status Date ---Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Mar 22, 2012 Statutory Meeting Date --- Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) ---

Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) ---Lot Size (sq m) ---Proposed Residential Units ---Proposed Storeys ---

Nouvellecosse · #**257** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 12:51 AM**

Why exactly do people suspect this could be a supertall if we don't know any of the relevant info like the floor count, height, number of units or floor space?

caltrane74 · #**258** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 1:19 AM**

Well the rumour from last year was this was the site of a twin 80 storey or 100 storey tower.

One way or the other we will find out.

The expense of redeveloping the site makes sense for a taller tower.

DrNest · #**259** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 1:29 AM**

It will be fantastic news if a supertall in Toronto is finally announced.

As a newbie to this thread I have re-read it all the way from the start. I would like to add my 2 cents to the debate.
I think Toronto would be the best place in Canada for a supertall based on the existing and under construction/currently proposed skyscrapers there. I certainly don't think a supertall would in any way eclipse or undermine the CN Tower's status in the city, in particular it's place in the skyline. Anything up to 450m or so would in fact compliment the CN Tower in a positive way. A good example would be to look how the Sears and John Hancock Towers work together in Chicago.
Outside of Toronto, I believe the aforementioned hotel/casino/observation tower at Niagara Falls would be the most likely candidate. I would not be at all surprised to see the like constructed there in the next ten years.

Nicko999 · #**260** Posted **Mar 23, 2012, 2:05 AM**

It would be nice to finally have a supertall in Canada.

Let's wait and see!