MONTREAL | L'Avenue | 184 M / 603 FT | 50 FLOORS

vanatox · #1 Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 2:07 AM**

Thanks to WestAust on mtlurb.com

http://f.tlcollect.com/fr2/312/50036...r.pdf?x=855222

Buyer sought for “Habs Hotel”

June 13, 2012. 6:06 pm • Section: Real Deal

MONTREAL, QUE. : SEPTEMBER 1 , 2011--The parking lot facing the Bell Centre, adjacent to Les Canadiens avenue between Drummond and Mountain Sts. is to become a mixed hotel and residential project (Marie-France Coallier) / THE GAZETTE)
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The project, which would have 4,500 square feet of meeting space, a restaurant, lounge, swimming pool and fitness centre, is being built by Broccolini Construction Inc. with backing from Carttera Private Equities Inc.
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The brochure ends speculation over the use of the 32,000 square foot, L-shaped site purchased by Broccolini and Carttera in January for $14.1 million.
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http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/201...for-habs-hotel

Dylan Leblanc · #2 Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 9:55 AM**

Wow, the eighth tower proposed for this area! http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/map...z=17&status=11

Rico Rommheim · #3 Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 12:07 PM**

Wow fantastic new proposal! Thank you for the scoop!

So 54 floors...so what, roughly 180-190m?

vanatox · #4 Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 1:12 PM**

Someone reliable on mtlurb said that the hotel could be a Conrad (luxury 5 star hotel). We'll see...

Martin Mtl · #5 Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 1:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by vanatox

Someone reliable on mtlurb said that the hotel could be a Conrad (luxury 5 star hotel). We'll see...

It's pure speculation, nothing reliable at all.

vanatox · #6 Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 2:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

It's pure speculation, nothing reliable at all.

I said the guy was reliable not his information... I said: "the hotel could be a Conrad..." not "will be a Conrad".

Maybe you prefer this: The hotel might be a Conrad.

BIMBAM · #7 Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 2:45 PM**

Oh my god do I hope the real estate market holds up long enough for this to get built! Along with ICONE, this is my favourite of the new proposals.

LeftCoaster · #8 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 2:23 PM**

I updated the floors and put in a placeholder height of 150 M until more information comes out.

MTLskyline · #9 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 2:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I updated the floors and put in a placeholder height of 150 M until more information comes out.

Thanks. Also, the name is L'Avenue rather than Tour Broccolini.

Ashok · #10 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 4:18 PM**

The tower reminds me of a scale down version of Aura College Park tower in Toronto. It has a similar podium built, a similar layout of its zones. I am really pleased with this announcement.

What do you guys think?

Photo credit from http://torontocondotoday.com

Rico Rommheim · #11 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 4:48 PM**

I don't really see the similarities, and I much prefer Aura!

As for the height, I wager that it'll be 175m.

MTLskyline · #12 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 6:26 PM**

Broccolini is saying that the tower could be as tall as 57 floors. That would put min. possible height in that scenario at 171m conservatively estimating 3m per floor.

If it had the same floor heights as Altitude we'd be looking at a building close to 215m tall. (~3.75/fl)

Realistically I'd say this building would be between 160m (50*3.2) and 195m (57*~3.4)

MTLskyline · #13 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 8:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

I don't really see the similarities, and I much prefer Aura!

As for the height, I wager that it'll be 175m.

You called it!

Interesting note: if it goes as high as 57 fl, it could end up being 200m, keeping the height per floor constant!

LeftCoaster · #14 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 6:41 PM**

Residential buildings can easily go as low as 2.75M per floor so I wouldnt say 3.0M is conservative so much as average.

I would imagine this building will end up somewhere between 145-165M depending on how many floors it ends up with.

MTLskyline · #15 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 6:55 PM**

^Do upmarket buildings go as low as 2.75m? For Montreal's market this project seems to be reasonably high end. 9ft high ceilings seem to be quite common in Montreal condo projects.

WhipperSnapper · #16 Posted **Jul 5, 2012, 4:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by MTLskyline

^Do upmarket buildings go as low as 2.75m? For Montreal's market this project seems to be reasonably high end. 9ft high ceilings seem to be quite common in Montreal condo projects.

8 ft (actually 2.65m) is uncommon nowadays but, it does happen.

Rumors · #17 Posted **Jul 6, 2012, 1:52 AM**

J'aime le nom sounds very classy.

cjbs1 · #18 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Residential buildings can easily go as low as 2.75M per floor so I wouldnt say 3.0M is conservative so much as average.

I would imagine this building will end up somewhere between 145-165M depending on how many floors it ends up with.

According to the developer himself, the 50 floor version will be 175m.
That puts an average of 3.5m per floor.

He also said that there is a possibility it goes up to 57 floors, meaning
57x3.5=199.5m , which is pretty much the maximum height allowed by law on this lot.

So this building will be anywhere between 175m-200m.

LeftCoaster · #19 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 7:03 PM**

No that would certainly be more rare but it can happen.

The Ritz Carlton building in Van is looking like 188 M and 67 floors so 2.8M/floor, and that building won't be cheap.

MTLskyline · #20 Posted **Jul 4, 2012, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

No that would certainly be more rare but it can happen.

The Ritz Carlton building in Van is looking like 188 M and 67 floors so 2.8M/floor, and that building won't be cheap.

Wow, that's quite surprising. I would have thought that a 67 floor Ritz would be over 200m. Is Vancouver imposing a height limit on them (and is Ritz using smaller floor heights to fit in a few extra floors?)