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Best of the three designs and all in all a superior design for Ottawa.
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All in all, it's pretty nice looking. I think it would look nicer in the 23-27 floor range (typical Ottawa height?). I feel that 18 floors makes it look a little stumpy with how wide it is (rectangle shape).
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They couldn't source brick-coloured brick? That's curious!
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I was @ Soho Champagne today and the girl said they 'just found out there will be a grocery store going in in the new Domicile building off Preston'.
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Mmmm... I can't wait to go shopping at the new "Food Gallery"
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Renderings

Wow, I realise the renderings are all about marketing but one rendering shows greenspace in the foreground which in fact is an NRcan parking lot and the rendering for the food gallery has patio tables that cannot exist given the site foot print and side walk space to the curb.
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No mention of any building amenities on their web site.

If it is "à la Domicile", there is probably not much.
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An encouraging intensification sign in Little Italy

By Joanne Chianello, OTTAWA CITIZEN February 2, 2014 6:10 PM




OTTAWA — When Domicile builds its 18-storey condo in the Preston Street neighbourhood, the company hopes to put a little more “Italy” back into the area known as Corso Italia.

The developer has signed up Nicastro’s La Bottega for the ground floor of the building planned for the corner of Pamilla and Rochester streets in Little Italy. An institution in the ByWard Market for two decades, this is the first time La Bottega has accepted a developer’s offer to open a full-fledged second location.

Why did La Bottega bite this time? “Domicile gave us a really good deal,” says co-owner Pat Nicastro. “They made it very advantageous for us.”

And it’s just as advantageous for Domicile, whose president, John Doran, had vowed from the start to include a food retailer in the project. In marketing the popular store as part of the “Nuovo” development (“new” in Italian), Domicile is clearly looking to set its product apart from the forest of towers springing up across the city.

At 5,000 square feet, La Bottega won’t be a full-fledged supermarket — “We don’t sell toilet paper,” Nicastro says — but it will carry a wide range of food, from Italian staples like pasta and olive oil, cheese and meats, but also the basics like milk and eggs.

While the new store will include coffee and sandwich counters, as well as a sit-down café, “we’re retailers first,” says Nicastro, who’s a partner in the store with his cousin, Rocco Nicastro. “We’re still Italian grocers, that’s what we’ve always been.”

The fact that Nicastro is a food retailer may help Domicile with community relations. Nobody’s forcing the developer’s hand — once the city has approved a building permit, there’s no practical need to court neighbourhood goodwill. But it doesn’t hurt. In recent years, the residents in Little Italy have complained that Preston Street is filling up with bars and restaurants. It makes the area a fun place on weekends and evenings, but means locals often have to travel a ways to supply their day-to-day living needs.

So Nicastro says La Bottega Nuovo — as the new location is to be called — will likely carry more fresh produce than the ByWard store, which offers a small complement of Italian-cuisine herbs and vegetables (think basil, tomatoes, garlic).

For a residential builder to sign up a high-end groceteria may not be huge news (other than, perhaps, to Italophiles in the vicinity), but it signals an encouraging trend that’s seeing in-demand services locating in condos.

For years, residents have been told that intensification would bring interesting and necessary shops that would animate the streets of the inner city. Bring enough people into a neighbourhood, goes the theory, and the retailers will follow. But until recently, what we’ve mostly seen are controversially tall developments with, at best, humdrum retail. No one thinks of a Shoppers Drug Mart as “animating”.

But intensification is finally showing signs of reaching a critical point where the services we want — food retailing, in particular — are willing to move in. Consider that a 30,000-square-foot Sobeys is planned for the base of the Claridge project under construction in Centretown, an area that has minimal grocery options.

Late last year, an LCBO opened recently on the ground floor of one of Urban Capital’s buildings near Bank and Gladstone streets, marking the first time the liquor agency has set up shop in a condo complex.

That more interesting retailers are finally moving into tall buildings won’t erase people’s concerns over their height and density. It’s unlikely locals will welcome with open arms the 40-plus storey towers planned for Carling Avenue near Preston just because some cool stores open up on the ground level.

Still, it’s a relief to start seeing some of the positives — and not just the controversies — that come with intensification.

If this welcome trend is to continue, however, the city also has to step up its role in creating lively and livable street fronts, by ensuring that the sidewalk levels of buildings are inviting — no blank walls allowed — as well as setbacks after the first two or three storeys to minimize looming effects. And the city must insist on wider, pedestrian friendly sidewalks. (See Ashcroft’s Richmond Road development just west of Island Park Drive for a sad example of what happens when these principles are ignored.)

As well, if people are moving into the core, as the sprouting up of new business would suggest, then the city has to provide more public amenities, from libraries and recreation centres to parks and even daycares.

Because we can’t leave it up to the La Bottegas and the Sobeys of the world to make an intensified Ottawa not just a place where more of us live, but where life is better.

jchianello@ottawacitizen.com

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An encouraging intensification sign in Little Italy

By Joanne Chianello, OTTAWA CITIZEN February 2, 2014 6:10 PM




OTTAWA — When Domicile builds its 18-storey condo in the Preston Street neighbourhood, the company hopes to put a little more “Italy” back into the area known as Corso Italia.

The developer has signed up Nicastro’s La Bottega for the ground floor of the building planned for the corner of Pamilla and Rochester streets in Little Italy. An institution in the ByWard Market for two decades, this is the first time La Bottega has accepted a developer’s offer to open a full-fledged second location.

Why did La Bottega bite this time? “Domicile gave us a really good deal,” says co-owner Pat Nicastro. “They made it very advantageous for us.”

And it’s just as advantageous for Domicile, whose president, John Doran, had vowed from the start to include a food retailer in the project. In marketing the popular store as part of the “Nuovo” development (“new” in Italian), Domicile is clearly looking to set its product apart from the forest of towers springing up across the city.

At 5,000 square feet, La Bottega won’t be a full-fledged supermarket — “We don’t sell toilet paper,” Nicastro says — but it will carry a wide range of food, from Italian staples like pasta and olive oil, cheese and meats, but also the basics like milk and eggs.

While the new store will include coffee and sandwich counters, as well as a sit-down café, “we’re retailers first,” says Nicastro, who’s a partner in the store with his cousin, Rocco Nicastro. “We’re still Italian grocers, that’s what we’ve always been.”

The fact that Nicastro is a food retailer may help Domicile with community relations. Nobody’s forcing the developer’s hand — once the city has approved a building permit, there’s no practical need to court neighbourhood goodwill. But it doesn’t hurt. In recent years, the residents in Little Italy have complained that Preston Street is filling up with bars and restaurants. It makes the area a fun place on weekends and evenings, but means locals often have to travel a ways to supply their day-to-day living needs.

So Nicastro says La Bottega Nuovo — as the new location is to be called — will likely carry more fresh produce than the ByWard store, which offers a small complement of Italian-cuisine herbs and vegetables (think basil, tomatoes, garlic).

For a residential builder to sign up a high-end groceteria may not be huge news (other than, perhaps, to Italophiles in the vicinity), but it signals an encouraging trend that’s seeing in-demand services locating in condos.

For years, residents have been told that intensification would bring interesting and necessary shops that would animate the streets of the inner city. Bring enough people into a neighbourhood, goes the theory, and the retailers will follow. But until recently, what we’ve mostly seen are controversially tall developments with, at best, humdrum retail. No one thinks of a Shoppers Drug Mart as “animating”.

But intensification is finally showing signs of reaching a critical point where the services we want — food retailing, in particular — are willing to move in. Consider that a 30,000-square-foot Sobeys is planned for the base of the Claridge project under construction in Centretown, an area that has minimal grocery options.

Late last year, an LCBO opened recently on the ground floor of one of Urban Capital’s buildings near Bank and Gladstone streets, marking the first time the liquor agency has set up shop in a condo complex.

That more interesting retailers are finally moving into tall buildings won’t erase people’s concerns over their height and density. It’s unlikely locals will welcome with open arms the 40-plus storey towers planned for Carling Avenue near Preston just because some cool stores open up on the ground level.

Still, it’s a relief to start seeing some of the positives — and not just the controversies — that come with intensification.

If this welcome trend is to continue, however, the city also has to step up its role in creating lively and livable street fronts, by ensuring that the sidewalk levels of buildings are inviting — no blank walls allowed — as well as setbacks after the first two or three storeys to minimize looming effects. And the city must insist on wider, pedestrian friendly sidewalks. (See Ashcroft’s Richmond Road development just west of Island Park Drive for a sad example of what happens when these principles are ignored.)

As well, if people are moving into the core, as the sprouting up of new business would suggest, then the city has to provide more public amenities, from libraries and recreation centres to parks and even daycares.

Because we can’t leave it up to the La Bottegas and the Sobeys of the world to make an intensified Ottawa not just a place where more of us live, but where life is better.

jchianello@ottawacitizen.com

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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/ot...237/story.html
Though not a full fledged grocery store, it will certainly make a huge difference in the neighbourhood. Plus I shop at the one in market all the time and love the place!
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Ya, they generally have really good prices too! mmmm sandwich
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A good step. It's a relief to see some useful retail coming to Carling Station district.

We still need a full grocery store though. Put a Loblaws or Sobeys or Metro on the ground floor of the Icon and then I'll throw a party
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A good step. It's a relief to see some useful retail coming to Carling Station district.

We still need a full grocery store though. Put a Loblaws or Sobeys or Metro on the ground floor of the Icon and then I'll throw a party
The footprint for the Icon is way too small and the location would be disasterous for vehicle traffic to a major grocery store, although local pedestrian traffic would be the obvious preference as intensification moves forward. There are only two locations that would suit a major grocery store. The parking lot at N.E. corner of Carling and Champagne and the parking Lot just N.E. of the Prescott Bar on Beechwood.
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Nice to see something Italian in Little Italy. There will always be the fear of the place being taken over by Shoppers, Starbucks and Irish/Scottish pubs.
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Visitor parking main hurdle for 18-storey condo in Little Italy

By Derek Spalding, OTTAWA CITIZEN February 19, 2014 8:08 PM


Residents are OK with new building heights, but raise concern about decreasing parking spaces

OTTAWA — Domicile Developments is looking for approval for its much-anticipated mixed-use 18-storey condo tower poised for construction on the eastern edge of Little Italy.

The proposed project in the 500 block of Rochester Street was lauded by the community when Domicile announced local merchant Nicastro’s La Bottega would help fill out the 362-square metres of street-level commercial space.

But finding businesses that can bring a little more Italian flavour to this corner of Centretown would not overshadow concerns from residents who said there are not enough parking spaces in the planned development, particularly when considering the rapidly growing population in the area.

A total of 108 parking spaces are planned in the three levels of underground parking garage, but just six stalls would be designated for visitors. Somerset Ward Coun. Diane Holmes agrees with residents.

In her comments on the rezoning application going to committee next week, she indicates “there is often a shortage of available on-street parking” in the Preston Street area and “the vacant land now being used for parking is dedicated to the nearby office buildings.”

In an interview, Holmes said it has been “a real struggle” to get the developer to include visitor parking.

“There may be some on-street parking now, but that won’t be there years from now,” she said.

The report to the planning committee next week calls for an amendment to the Preston-Champagne secondary plan to allow the 18 storeys, but any approval would be symbolic because the city is poised to replace this secondary plan with a new Preston-Carling development plan.

City planners said Domicile waited until council approved a strategic directions report in May that outlined the parameters for the anticipated CDP that will allow taller buildings in specific areas, including a section along Rochester.

The planning committee meets Tuesday and will consider the application.

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Any idea when construction will start?
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No idea, but hopefully soon! If I had condo cash to burn, this building would get my $$$ before the Preston Street supertalls, as this seems to have a better chance of being built, and - FOOD on the ground floor.

I hope it goes up, as this street/area needs it bad.
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Cool location if they build the Ottawa version of the 'Distillery District' just down the road!
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