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NYguy · #1 Posted **Apr 16, 2008, 7:23 PM**

News of its death from the NY Post.

The remains.

The grim reaper visits curbed.com

Some passing photos:

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Post your own photos and condolences.

Swede · #2 Posted **Apr 16, 2008, 7:33 PM**

The one part I never liked was that huge spire. The rest was pure genious. How do you make a skyscraper stand out in DT Manhattan? This is how.

Steely Dan · #3 Posted **Apr 30, 2008, 4:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Swede

The one part I never liked was that huge spire. The rest was pure genious. How do you make a skyscraper stand out in DT Manhattan? This is how.

yeah, the spire always seemed a bit extraneous, even distracting, on this one, but the stacked off-set cubes by themselves constituted one of the coolest skyscraper designs of all time. hopefully santiago can incorporate some of its ideas into a future built project.

Aleks · #4 Posted **Apr 17, 2008, 12:49 AM**

Idk, the spire completes the building. It would look funky without the spire. I love this building. Wish it could've gotten built. I never thought about how to make this building stand out, but about how to make it stand at all. Such a genius tower.

vanman · #5 Posted **Apr 17, 2008, 8:25 AM**

Damn it! I was really looking forward to this one.

Fabb · #6 Posted **Apr 17, 2008, 11:17 AM**

I remember that at some point, it was presented as a sure thing.

Antares41 · #7 Posted **Apr 17, 2008, 1:27 PM**

Well, perpetual teasing is inhumane. Personally I got tired of the on-off conversation of this proposal. Wonderful architecture, but, if it not going to happen, then, let move on. Its a great location I sure something will be built eventually.

NYguy · #8 Posted **Apr 17, 2008, 2:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fabb

I remember that at some point, it was presented as a sure thing.

Only because it was approved. However, no buyers could be found. Not the first nor the last time this will happen. It's just that the design of this one was better than most, so its loss is felt more.

Being that the site is now for sale, with additional air rights, maybe in a couple of years when the Downtown revival is more visible, the location will prove prime for a residential tower, which will have to be as slender as this one. Maybe another developer will be as inspired.

Scruffy · #9 Posted **Apr 30, 2008, 2:34 AM**

sigh. this was my favorite proposal for new york. More so than the MOMA tower. oh well.

M II A II R II K · #10 Posted **Apr 30, 2008, 4:52 PM**

It had such a kick ass design. Can't believe that not enough people were interested in buying into that.

James2390 · #11 Posted **May 15, 2008, 12:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

It had such a kick ass design. Can't believe that not enough people were interested in buying into that.

I know, right?

Chicagoguy · #12 Posted **May 20, 2008, 8:40 PM**

Since it failed in New York, maybe they could try to market it and build it in Chicago? We dont seem to be struggling with finding buyers for all of our new residential towers? Just an idea! It would be great to just see it built!

NYguy · #13 Posted **Jan 16, 2009, 7:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chicagoguy

Since it failed in New York, maybe they could try to market it and build it in Chicago? We dont seem to be struggling with finding buyers for all of our new residential towers? Just an idea! It would be great to just see it built!

This one refuses to rest in peace...

http://downtownexpress.com/de_298/undercover.html

Cubes on ice

So many Downtown construction projects are delayed that we can’t possibly list all of them, but here’s one that’s been on-again, off-again: Santiago Calatrava’s tower of staggered condo cubes at 80 South St. is now officially on hold.

Frank Sciame, C.E.O. of Sciame Development, told Downtown Express several months ago that he was moving ahead with plans for the tower. But this month John Randolph, Sciame’s executive vice president for real estate, said pretty much the opposite.

“We’ll see as the market improves,” Randolph said. “We’ll make decisions at that time [about] the best plan for development, which very well may be the Calatrava Tower…. All the options are open as the economy and markets improve.”

Duffstuff129 · #14 Posted **Jan 27, 2009, 1:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

It had such a kick ass design. Can't believe that not enough people were interested in buying into that.

I don't think it was that people weren't interested, but that they only offered full "cubes", which meant that each one cost around $30 million. Even in the biggest boom times, it's hard to find 12 people who are willing to drop that kind of money.

Also, I'll bet that many people, even those who had the money, wouldn't want an entire cube. Each one must be at least 15,000 sq. feet, right? And if you're that successful, chances are you don't have enough time to relax in all that space.

And further, what can you do with 4 floors?

Really, how many TV's can a man watch? How many very similar views can a man appreciate? The answer in both cases in (probably) one.

So once you couple huge prices with an amount of space that people aren't necessarily interested in buying, you have a recipe for cancellation.

If this does ever get resurrected, let's hope that they offer single floors units. I'm sure that people will be fighting over them then.

Regardless, it's a true shame that this didn't get built. Oh well.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork · #15 Posted **Jul 27, 2010, 6:06 PM**

never really liked it.

Flamesrule · #16 Posted **Aug 11, 2010, 11:33 AM**

Awsome! It looks really neat and it's a slim building. Too bad it was overturned and will not get built.

JDRCRASH · #17 Posted **Aug 12, 2010, 10:39 PM**

Yeah, this was a very unique building.

MolsonExport · #18 Posted **Sep 16, 2010, 1:28 PM**

what an interesting building. box breaking. I wish NYC could return to the 1940s skyline of spires and setbacks.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork · #19 Posted **Sep 22, 2010, 12:24 AM**

i liked this proposal better

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7...titled1fo1.jpg

THE BIG APPLE · #20 Posted **Jun 19, 2011, 9:14 AM**

This building had a uniqueness to it in that it has unique setback boxes and a spire somewhat reminiscent of the 30's skyscrapers and it was very modern. It basically catered to both parties who like modern and classical pre-war.

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