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Old Posted Jan 6, 2019, 1:09 AM
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^A reusable and revenue creating resource, a fine use of taxpayer dollars.
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What a fine use of taxpayer dollars.
Yes, asking people to bring their own fold up chair would have made more sense.
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Yes, asking people to bring their own fold up chair would have made more sense.
If the grandstands get used once every few years and sit in a warehouse the rest of the time, yes it does.
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An awful article, but par for the course for the Halifax examiner.

They offer no real evidence that Halifax is worse than anywhere else in North America. Carding was worse in Toronto than the street checks are in Halifax. The rate was higher and the practice was more invasive.

The street check rate was 6 times higher for black people than white, not 9. But it was also much higher for males than females and it was higher for whites than Asians. I guess the Halifax police are pro-feminist Asian supremacists. The street check seems to match the rate at which these groups are charged. These accusations of racism are generally assuming that the underlying rate of criminality across all of these groups is identical, which is probably not reality. I would guess that the real story behind the street check rates is that there are some high crime parts of the city where there are a lot of checks, and where demographics skew more heavily toward black people. This is not a good situation but in such an environment if the police do their job even-handedly there will still be disparities when the statistics are broken down by race.

It's a touchy issue and it could be that street checks are unfair and it is better to get rid of them. But it's wrong to take incomplete data from one narrow domain and use it to condemn the whole city.
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These accusations of racism are generally assuming that the underlying rate of criminality across all of these groups is identical, which is probably not reality. I would guess that the real story behind the street check rates is that there are some high crime parts of the city where there are a lot of checks, and where demographics skew more heavily toward black people. This is not a good situation but in such an environment if the police do their job even-handedly there will still be disparities when the statistics are broken down by race.
No, the crime rates are not identical. The example given in the article about the black guy in an expensive car with a white girl matches the profile of well-documented human trafficking groups running out of a local predominantly black community. I can totally understand such a stop given that. These articles conveniently overlook the criminal activity that is tolerated within certain areas. I do not blame the police for checking on what to them seem suspicious encounters.

I cannot fathom why anyone pays for a monthly subscription to the Examiner unless they are in need of bad examples of "journalism".
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I cannot fathom why anyone pays for a monthly subscription to the Examiner unless they are in need of bad examples of "journalism".
It's not journalism when they self identify as "an independent, adversarial news site in Halifax"
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What a joke, race baiting victimization nonsense in the guise of commentary.
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What a joke, race baiting victimization nonsense in the guise of commentary.
Yup, more 'journalism' designed to make our area look bad to the rest of the world. I only posted it because it was out there and it pertained to the topic.
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