The Great Canadian 2011-2012 NHL season discussion thread - Page 46

AuxTown · #**901** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 1:39 PM**

NHL attendance is always something I pay attention to. Cheering for a small market Canadian team in the middle of a rebuild I always worry that the fans won't support our boys. It's interesting, though, how quickly the Habs and Flames fans turn on their team in tough times. I thought Ottawa was bad for this. Some surprising numbers (to me) coming out of the first few games of the season (sorry about the formatting....or lack there of):

Team Games Played Average Home Attendance % Capacity
TOR 5 19442 103.3
VAN 5 18860 102.4
OTT 5 18707 97.7
MON 6 17727 83.3
EDM 6 16839 100
CAL 5 15431 80
WIN 4 15004 100

from http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

Calgarian · #**902** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 1:53 PM**

Was at the Flames game last night, they absolutely dominated Colorado in the first period, out shot them 21-5, but somehow ended up getting out shot by the end of the game. Luckily they managed to hold on for the win.

Good on Horak for his first NHL goal.

Calgarian · #**903** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 1:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-Town Hockey

NHL attendance is always something I pay attention to. Cheering for a small market Canadian team in the middle of a rebuild I always worry that the fans won't support our boys. It's interesting, though, how quickly the Habs and Flames fans turn on their team in tough times.

When your team is playing like shit, spending big money to go to the games isn't as appealing I guess. Was at the Dome last night and it didn't seem like there were very many empty seats...

freeweed · #**904** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 2:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by mintzilla

i am confused, with the amount of corporate support your city has i would have thought it would be pretty easy to get the funding privately. hell naming rights alone would probably go for a pretty penny.

care to inform the ignorant (me) of the situation down south?

Not entirely sure, to be honest. I can't think of any modern arena built entirely with private funding. Naming rights might bring in a whopping $5 million a year, that's not enough to construct a $250-300 million arena.

freeweed · #**905** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 2:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

When your team is playing like shit, spending big money to go to the games isn't as appealing I guess. Was at the Dome last night and it didn't seem like there were very many empty seats...

OK, ESPN is completely fucked up. If you look game-by-game, they show a 100% sellout. For all 5 home games. So that 80% is complete nonsense.

While there are beginning to regularly be empty seats in the nosebleeds, and there have always been scattered lower bowl vacancies, the games are being reported as sellouts still. Most of the 'Dome (close to 90%) is season tickets and we still have a years-long waiting list. There's just no way nearly 4000 seats on average are sitting empty.

I wouldn't be surprised if it happens though. "Fans quickly turning on the team" - um, has anyone actually been paying attention to this team post-lockout? 4 embarrassing first round knockouts, followed by missing the post-season 2 years in a row. Sure, we're not Toronto - but Calgary hasn't exactly been playing to attract fans lately.

Edit: just did the same for Montreal. They also claim full sellouts each game, but 83% overall? Something ain't right.

bulliver · #**906** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 2:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

I can't think of any modern arena built entirely with private funding.

Rogers Arena, formerly GM place is all private money I thought...

Calgarian · #**907** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

OK, ESPN is completely fucked up. If you look game-by-game, they show a 100% sellout. For all 5 home games. So that 80% is complete nonsense.

While there are beginning to regularly be empty seats in the nosebleeds, and there have always been scattered lower bowl vacancies, the games are being reported as sellouts still. Most of the 'Dome (close to 90%) is season tickets and we still have a years-long waiting list. There's just no way nearly 4000 seats on average are sitting empty.

I wouldn't be surprised if it happens though. "Fans quickly turning on the team" - um, has anyone actually been paying attention to this team post-lockout? 4 embarrassing first round knockouts, followed by missing the post-season 2 years in a row. Sure, we're not Toronto - but Calgary hasn't exactly been playing to attract fans lately.

Newspapers generally have the attendance numbers for each game.

freeweed · #**908** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by bulliver

Rogers Arena, formerly GM place is all private money I thought...

True, although at 16 years old it's almost to the point where I wasn't considering it in terms of "modern". But I'll give you that one.

No way could you build something like that for $160 million today.

freeweed · #**909** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Newspapers generally have the attendance numbers for each game.

News... pap.. err what? News comes in paper form now? What a wondrous time we live in!

freeweed · #**910** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 2:57 PM**

Why standings mean absolute squat this early in the season:

Calgary, tied for 14th in the West, is only 2 points out of a playoff spot.

Ayreonaut · #**911** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 3:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

Why standings mean absolute squat this early in the season:

Calgary, tied for 14th in the West, is only 2 points out of a playoff spot.

The West was like that after 60 games last season.

freeweed · #**912** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 3:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ayreonaut

The West was like that after 60 games last season.

Yeah, but the top team didn't have twice as many points at 14th.

Calgarian · #**913** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

News... pap.. err what? News comes in paper form now? What a wondrous time we live in!

lol, that's the only place I can think of that actually shows attendance figures. They don't show it on the online version though...

The_Architect · #**914** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 4:24 PM**

Reimer might have a concussion.. great.

EDIT: Nvm..

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touraccuracy · #**915** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 5:59 PM**

yeah guys none of the results mean anything yet. right? right?!

Coldrsx · #**916** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 6:51 PM**

Looking forward to seeing how the Oil stand up to the Caps tonight.

freeweed · #**917** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 8:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Looking forward to seeing how the Oil stand up to the Caps tonight.

I'd LOVE to see them sneak out a win. We had some fairly surprising upsets last night and I like trends like that. Keeps things interesting.

The Chemist · #**918** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 10:41 PM**

Now that the Caps have an actual goaltender, I think they're the team to beat this year.

mr.John · #**919** Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 11:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-Town Hockey

NHL attendance is always something I pay attention to. Cheering for a small market Canadian team in the middle of a rebuild I always worry that the fans won't support our boys. It's interesting, though, how quickly the Habs and Flames fans turn on their team in tough times. I thought Ottawa was bad for this. Some surprising numbers (to me) coming out of the first few games of the season (sorry about the formatting....or lack there of):

Team Games Played Average Home Attendance % Capacity
MON 6 17727 83.3

from http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

That's over 4,000 empty seats at the greed center, sorry the Bell center,if the Canadiens continue stinking up the joint I predict they'll be in the 16,000 before Xmas

Joshy · #**920** Posted **Oct 28, 2011, 1:49 AM**

Jets over Flyers 9 to 8.

Seventeen goals!

The most rediculous hockey game I have ever seen in my life!