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Old Posted Nov 16, 2005, 11:18 PM
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That's a stupid reason to reject the tower. It's a lowsy 2 hours in the winter!
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The OMB can overturn the decision. In this case I hope the ego-maniac (Stinson) with the awful design will be sent scurrying. Or forced to submit a good design if he has "designs" on the tallest in Toronto.
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Yea the OMB conducts far more scientific tests. He may very well get through.
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The community council decision is binding, but like others have said, the OMB can overturn that decision. In certain respects, the OMB is good for that, but all too often, the OMB sides with developers in both good and bad cases.

I hope this does force Stinson to redesign. Sapphire looks like crap with that globe on top.
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I was never really a fan of the Sapphire Tower design, so I am kind of glad they rejected it, I do hope they redesign it somewhat though and try again.
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I updated the list for this thread.
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Sweet list... I hadn't even realized that there was a list for TO.

Now, the TO fans just need to see some action on the tallest proposals, which seem to be taking forever to get moving.
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Good update on the list, the boom continues....
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MSLE is 75 % sold phase 1. phase 2 gets sold in feb.

So this building will be starting in 06. both phases will be the tallest buildings south of the rail lands to be completed in Toronto ever.

overtaking the current champ of harbourview estates 2.


MLSE Complex:
MLSE Tower I [MLSE Complex] - 558 ft. 53 floors
MLSE Tower II [MLSE Complex] - 529 ft. 49 floors


Harbour View Estates II [CityPlace] - 503 ft. 49 floors







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A newer rendering:



Also 590 Jarvis known as the "X" starting sales soon

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Old Posted Dec 15, 2005, 4:34 PM
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NEW OFFICE TOWER!!!!!!

From the Globe:

Brookfield sends eviction notices, files plans for Bay-Adelaide site

By ELIZABETH CHURCH

Thursday, December 15, 2005 Page B4

REAL ESTATE REPORTER

The race to be the first developer off the mark with a new Toronto office tower is heating up now that Brookfield Properties Corp. has notified tenants they must leave two older Bay Street buildings, and filed new plans for its Bay-Adelaide site.

The plans call for a three-building, mixed use project on the vacant site that would include condominium units, offices and a hotel.

The Brookfield property, with its partly completed elevator shaft, is a reminder of how quickly the bottom fell out of the office market at the end of the last cycle. Now, it appears the project may get a new life.

The plans show Brookfield would begin development with a proposed 62-storey office and residential tower at the corner of Bay and Adelaide streets. To make way for the tower, two small office buildings will be demolished. The facade of one of those buildings, built in the 1940s, will be preserved and incorporated into the new tower. The unfinished elevator shaft would also come down and an underground path would join the project to the Bank of Nova Scotia building to the south. "This is an exciting opportunity. We think the market is ready for a new building," Brookfield spokeswomen Melissa Coley said.

Tenants in the two buildings, bought by Brookfield in 2001 to give it a Bay Street address, have been told to be out no later than May.

Sources in the industry say at least three major tenants are shopping for space and it is believed Brookfield has secured one tenant for its new development.

The addition of residential units also makes the development more economical because condominium sales would help fill it.

"We are definitely going to see development in the downtown in 2006," predicted Paul Morse, head of leasing at Cushman & Wakefield LePage. A survey it released yesterday shows vacancy rates for prime space in the core edged down to 7.9 per cent in this quarter from 8 per cent in the previous quarter.

At least two other developers are in serious talks with tenants for new towers. Cadillac Fairview Corp. Ltd., an arm of Ontario Teachers Pension Plan Board, is said to be close to a deal with a major tenant for its site on Simcoe Street. Privately held Menkes Developments also is courting tenants for its proposed tower near the Air Canada Centre.
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New project at 590 Jarvis.

this one looks like a winner.
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THE PERFECT HOUSE: ARCHITECTURE
Neighbourly modernism on Jarvis St.

A gleaming tower will sit on the dividing line of suburbia and metropolitan life

By JOHN BENTLEY MAYS
Friday, June 17, 2005 Page G2

No grand 19th-century avenue in downtown Toronto was more injured by 20th-century neglect and mindless development than Jarvis Street. But before Toronto's current boom in residential construction is done, old Jarvis could get back some of the dignity and high style that distinguished it in Victorian times.

Among the latest moves afoot to do just that is the soaring condominium block that Great Gulf Group intends to put up at 590 Jarvis, the address of the old Metropolitan Toronto police headquarters.

Designed by Peter Clewes and Adrian di Castri, principals in the Toronto firm architectsAlliance, and currently winding its way through the city's approvals process, the 45-storey tower will stand at one of the few spots along the street where such monumental height makes sense.

Nowadays, the end of Mount Pleasant Road, just opposite 590 Jarvis, is one of those important, unusual urban intersections that nobody has ever seen fit to celebrate with an appropriately dramatic gesture. (Unless you count the outlandish Rogers Media Inc. headquarters sprawling down the east side of Jarvis -- which I don't.) In Toronto and elsewhere in North America, the city's edges and centre almost always meet fuzzily, with slow, predictable shifts of scale.

Motorists rushing south on Mount Pleasant through heavily forested Rosedale dive under Bloor Street East and hit the hard city centre at Jarvis abruptly. Nothing, at present, marks this uncommonly sudden, exciting transition from suburbia to metropolitan life. That will all change, sharply and for the better, when the gleaming, strong tower envisioned by Mr. Clewes and Mr. di Castri becomes the first piece of big-city architecture that southbound suburbanites see.

Part of what's good about this project is its proposed height and graceful proportions, which are wholly appropriate for a building at a key gateway. But its more conspicuous feature -- and the one likely to become the most controversial thing about it, at least among architecture fans -- is its historical styling.

Style is an odd word to use about a work by architectsAlliance, where urbane simplicity, clarity and lack of style are almost moral values. The tower at 590 Jarvis, however, will pay explicit homage to the great German architect Ludwig Mies van der Rohe, and to the mid-20th-century, high-capitalist aesthetic of glass, steel and clear space embodied, for example, in Mies's magnificent Toronto-Dominion Centre (1963-1969).

The architects' admiration for Miesian modernism is evident everywhere in their design, from the strict, open weave of steel on all four elevations, to the stone plaza defining the site at grade, and the bright, transparent lobby (set well inside the line of the curtain wall) over which the darker mass of the building seems to float. (Another, less satisfactory ground-floor scheme under consideration by the architects would have a horizontal glass slab slide under the main body of the structure.)

But while both men are baptized members of the church of high modernism, Mr. Clewes and Mr. di Castri are hardly hide-bound fundamentalists. Nor, rightly, would anybody in contemporary Toronto put up with them if they were.

In an interview, the architects said their work, in the end, is all about "doing a residential tower in the reality of Toronto." Mies would probably have demanded that the whole city block be razed to the ground -- including venerable St. Paul's Anglican Church -- before he would even think about designing something for it.

In contrast to such take-no-prisoners modernism, the attitude of the tower toward its neighbours is, well, neighbourly. If built as the architects intend, the structure will cast no shadows unacceptable to the worshippers at St. Paul's. To the west of the tower and the Gerstein Centre (which the building site wraps around), a new mid-block pedestrian laneway will be opened between little Hayden Street and Charles Street East.

The things in Miesian modernism that architectsAlliance respect include its gravity and steadiness, and Mies's excellence at good place-making in jumbled urban situations. What's mercifully missing from the modernism of the firm is a liking for bulldozers as tools of social change and good city-building.

In any case, Jarvis Street has been bulldozed, mutilated, allowed to go to wrack and ruin, and otherwise degraded quite enough over the past hundred years.




We should be glad that new urban fabric (of varying quality and inspiration) is cropping up all along Jarvis. But it's surely time to do more than that -- to distinguish this once-majestic residential street with at least some buildings as assertive and ambitious as architects can make them
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New Hotel Design Released


This is the Shangri-la hotel .. It will go on University Ave. - I believe this project is 68 floors . Which is good.

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Man, TO is going to be something. I haven't been for 6 years, usualy stoping through when visiting Buffalo and family. Im sure I wont recognise it. Thought about heading that way when I retire in a few years, but those taxes I here about scare me.
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The Xcondo is an awsome project,it should make that area of downtown look much more urban.
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Looks like the NYTimes tower.

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New Hotel Design Released


This is the Shangri-la hotel .. It will go on University Ave. - I believe this project is 68 floors . Which is good.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2006, 11:13 PM
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taxes are coming down. We are gonna have an extreme right wing goverment. ( hopefully a minority government )

And the feds are sitting on 60 billion in cash.

Im not right wing. But lower taxes should boost investment.
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edited for off-topic non-sense.
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This has nothing to do with skyscrapers. LEft wing right wing should be kept seperate and not ruin this thread.
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