Winnipeg Retail

[The Unknown Poster]

Dont forget Fort Richmond which just de-malled.

And Im old enough to remember...Southwood Mall? I cant remember if that name is accurate. The Best Buy/Shapes/Staples/Toys R Us on pembina...it used to be a mall.

[CoryB]

Got to hand it to Grant Park for being well ahead of trends in the past. It was Winnipeg's first big box mall and the first to convert from big box to enclosed mall.

[trebor204]

I took a quick peak inside the former Sears St Vital today, and notice a PCL construction sign inside the store. They could be cleaning up the space, and getting rid of the left over fixtures and stuff.

[Biff]

I could be wrong, but I don't think PCL would get involved to just get rid of fixtures and stuff. They could be doing either major construction of new space or alterations to bring the base building up to whatever standards STVC wants to be leasable.

[LilZebra]

Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Dont forget Fort Richmond which just de-malled.

And Im old enough to remember...Southwood Mall? I cant remember if that name is accurate. The Best Buy/Shapes/Staples/Toys R Us on pembina...it used to be a mall.

Forest Park Mall (Charleswood) had an enclosed part too and was de-malled in the 90s.

[AccordTR]

Originally Posted by Biff

I could be wrong, but I don't think PCL would get involved to just get rid of fixtures and stuff. They could be doing either major construction of new space or alterations to bring the base building up to whatever standards STVC wants to be leasable.

Second floor is leased apparently so I would bet if that’s true PCL is converting the main floor for second floor access.

[CoryB]

If St Vital is leasing the second floor of Eaton's opps Sears the vacant space as a separate unit I would imagine the entrance is basically going to slice a corner of the wide mall entrance to the space and have stairs/elevators there with possibly a minimal main level space to let people know something is up there. Doing a quick estimate on the size of the space though it is in the 40,000 to 50,000 sq ft range (maybe larger) which is quite huge. That is actually larger the Off 5th the Outlet mall and in the range of most Save on Foods stores.

Will definitely be interesting to see how this all shakes out at both St Vital and Polo Park. Polo Park has almost double the space to fill and it has the weird underground loading dock to also address.

[StNorberter]

Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Dont forget Fort Richmond which just de-malled.

And Im old enough to remember...Southwood Mall? I cant remember if that name is accurate. The Best Buy/Shapes/Staples/Toys R Us on pembina...it used to be a mall.

Yup, that's the name. The two anchor tenants were K-Mart and a Dominion food store, also opened with a bank ( CIBC), hobby store, radio shack, and believe it or not a food court.

[The Unknown Poster]

Originally Posted by StNorberter

Yup, that's the name. The two anchor tenants were K-Mart and a Dominion food store, also opened with a bank ( CIBC), hobby store, radio shack, and believe it or not a food court.

Yup I remember as a child being very intrigued by the Dominion with its conveyer belt system to send groceries to the front door for loading into your car.

And frequented the Malt Stop in the Food Court. When I was older and could drive, the Mini Golf (which took up half of the Dominion space - the other half was Arizona Fitness) and Arcade was our hang out.

[The Unknown Poster]

Not sure if its been mentioned but The marketplace in St Norbert is closing next week and is already beginning demolition.

[Urban recluse]

Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Yup I remember as a child being very intrigued by the Dominion with its conveyer belt system to send groceries to the front door for loading into your car.

Me too LOL

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Not sure if its been mentioned but The marketplace in St Norbert is closing next week and is already beginning demolition.

Read an article a week or so ago that they suffered extensive flood damage and were weighing their options.

[The Unknown Poster]

Originally Posted by cheswick

Read an article a week or so ago that they suffered extensive flood damage and were weighing their options.

Through the course of my job I spoke to the manager who said its being completely demo'ed and they "hope" it gets re-built but that it was up to head office.

[TimeFadesAway]

Originally Posted by The Unknown Poster

Through the course of my job I spoke to the manager who said its being completely demo'ed and they "hope" it gets re-built but that it was up to head office.

Isn't there an equation that governs this?

'Hope for rebuild' + 'Winnipeg' = 'Gravel surface parking lot'

[esquire]

^ Judging by recent trends in St. Norbert, the likelier outcome is another 6 storey condo building.

I'd be surprised if Co-op or whoever ran Marketplace didn't replace it with something else. The only alternatives I can think of around there is Sobeys, which is a decent hike up the road, with Superstore and Safeway past that. There's not much else in St. Norbert itself.

[Jeff]

or u can just wait until the farmers market starts up again and ration until then! but ya, wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as a chateau-esque inspired condo building along the lines of the other buildings in the area that will prompt people traveling to town from the south to ask, "did we take a wrong turn and end up in france??"

[Roger Strong]

“An old market had stood there until I'd been about six years old, when the authorities had renamed it the Olde Market, destroyed it, and built a new market devoted to selling T-shirts and other objects with pictures of the old market. Meanwhile, the people who had operated the little stalls in the old market had gone elsewhere and set up a thing on the edge of town that was now called the New Market even though it was actually the old market.”
- Neal Stephenson, Anathem

[CoryB]

Important to note The Marketplace is Federated Co-op while the gas bars and the Safeway conversions are Red River Co-op. Two different organizations. From the media reports on the St Norbert Marketplace it really sounds like their plan is to re-open. That said they need to look at what insurance will cover and what the repair/rebuild cost are v their insurance payout. As it is a co-op it isn't as if the corporate owners are going to pocket the insurance check and invest it on their tropical vacation home.

[StNorberter]

Originally Posted by CoryB

Important to note The Marketplace is Federated Co-op while the gas bars and the Safeway conversions are Red River Co-op. Two different organizations. From the media reports on the St Norbert Marketplace it really sounds like their plan is to re-open. That said they need to look at what insurance will cover and what the repair/rebuild cost are v their insurance payout. As it is a co-op it isn't as if the corporate owners are going to pocket the insurance check and invest it on their tropical vacation home.

Given that there are two condo projects yet to break ground on Pembina, it's unlikely that another one will go up there. It's a busy store for its size and once the condo go up, there will be increased demand for a grocery store there.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by AccordTR

Second floor is leased apparently so I would bet if that’s true PCL is converting the main floor for second floor access.

PCL work is done - removing elements for exploratory work and upcoming interior demo. STVC is likely splitting space for 5 or 6 tenants.