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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 10:43 PM
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The Sky (845 Carling) | 190.5, 155.2, and 73.3m | 55, 45 & 18 fl | Approved

dow honda preliminary proposal - 2x 48 fl...




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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 10:46 PM
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I was joking when I posted this!
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2013, 11:26 AM
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I was joking when I posted this!
Haha, that's awesome - someone from Richcraft must have seen your post
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 10:47 PM
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dow honda preliminary proposal - 2x 48 fl...
I had heard a rumour not too long ago that Richcraft would be pushing for two towers at 55 fl for this site. Not far off.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 11:08 PM
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I haven't kept too close track of what's going on, but it seems like there might be a bit of a tower cluster forming in that area.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 11:51 PM
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Is this real or am I dreaming? Not one, but two 48 story buildings! I'm skeptical that these will get approved, but I sincerely hope it happens. This will be a really great place to live within the next few years.

Anymore details on this project? Are both towers located on the same plot or across the street from each other? How is Richcraft for buildings? My mother and I were talking about the projects, and while we agree we don't like Claridge, she said she doesn't like Richcraft (I at least like La Galleria 1/2's exterior).

In any case, I'm happy with the height.
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Some time last year I said to myself I'd never see a proposal over 40 floors in Ottawa in my life time. Now we have three. This is a big milestone.
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Plan for Preston Street overtaken by 48-story condo proposals

By David Reevely, OTTAWA CITIZEN March 26, 2013 8:18 PM

OTTAWA — The city desperately needs to figure out how it’s going to ready Little Italy for an influx of thousands of residents, councillors heard Tuesday from the planning guru they hired to guide development in the area.

“This won’t be a question of ‘should you?’; it’s a question of ‘how?’, because you already are,” George Dark said in presenting a first version of a plan for which tall buildings on and near Preston Street should go where to city council’s planning committee. His job was to help the city get ahead of a condo boom that overwhelmed the planning department, which had no firm plan for what the area at the south end of Preston Street should look like.

Public space in the area is terrible, Dark said bluntly, showing a succession of slides of roads with no sidewalks, crummy pathways with bent fences and a dishevelled Ev Tremblay Park near the O-Train track.

Builders have hundreds of floors’ worth of condos in the planning pipeline for the area around the Carling O-Train station. “You don’t really yet have a plan of where they’re going to walk and where they’re going to go.”

The worst image: a sad path leading to that O-Train station from Carling Avenue’s narrow sidewalk, a few feet of pavement next to a massive road that’s eventually supposed to have thousands of people using it to walk to transit.

Tall buildings can work if they’re surrounded by rich public spaces, Dark said. Cities that don’t bother with those tend to be “sad” places. That’s what this area will become unless the city moves quickly, he warned.

Councillors on the planning committee approved Dark’s general vision for the area, including very tall buildings along Carling Avenue at the south end of Preston, despite numerous objections from existing residents, who largely want shorter buildings than Dark thinks are acceptable — and from developers, who say Dark’s vision is too restrictive.

Emphasizing the point, a development consultant working for Richcraft showed off drawings of two 48-storey towers Richcraft wants to build on the site of a car dealership next to the train station. They’d be the tallest buildings in Ottawa by far, big and bold architectural statements (they drew groans of horror from Little Italy residents watching in the audience) and they’re at odds with Dark’s thinking in at least three ways. Dark proposes having buildings of different heights to avoid a wall effect, and maxing out at 40 storeys. Richcraft would also put a large pedestrian plaza where Dark imagines the south end of a small road serving as an auxiliary for Preston Street.

(The secondary road and new car bridges over the O-Train tracks, particularly unpopular ideas in Little Italy, have been put off for further study, as part of a deeper process for putting Dark’s ideas into practice. He said it’s not actually needed, as long as the city limits the heights of buildings along the O-Train tracks.)

The two ideas could be compatible, Dark said. His big-picture plan and Richcraft’s idea for its particular property should be reconciled, he said, because Richcraft is planning to build a something highly visible next to a major transit station.

“You’re in this together,” he said.

Dark’s vision goes to city council for approval April 10.

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I'm speechless, could this really happen? Even minus a few stories, this would be monumental for Ottawa.

Groans of horror? Are these towers going to be inhabited by boulder-throwing cyclopses and flaming demons or something?
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Really hope this happens!

Seems almost too good to be true for this city ugh
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Campeau did try to propose a 42 storey tower downtown in late 80s, but that went nowhere. However this is far away from the Parliamentary precinct and its height restrictions.

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updated Carling/Preston proposed/approved/construction projects (I'll colour code them next time)



edit: added Norman St and Rochestor.. thanks Brent!

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updated Carling/Preston proposed/approved/UC projects (I'll colour code them next time...)

Exciting! Although it seems like the taller buildings make it seem less dense?

Don't forget the condos on Norman and Rochester (assuming they get the go ahead) to add to that density.

I'm hopeful that the CIBC building will be replaced with a taller condo, along with everything from Preston to Rochester along Adelaide.

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This is very exciting. I sincerely hope that this doesn't end up with 4 tall towers (by Ottawa standards) all the same height. It looks great with the varied heights pictured.

Edit: Waterloo, I posted your rendering in the Canada section; I hope you don't mind.
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updated Carling/Preston proposed/approved/construction projects (I'll colour code them next time)



edit: added Norman St and Rochestor.. thanks Brent!
I don't know if the Arnon site on the other side of the tracks was actually approved for 26 storeys, but if I were them I'd propose something a lot higher now.
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updated Carling/Preston proposed/approved/construction projects (I'll colour code them next time)



edit: added Norman St and Rochestor.. thanks Brent!
Looking at this pic makes you feel sorry for Tunney's Pasture. I'd love to see a skyline like the one developing at Preston/Carling over at Tunney's. It has so much potential.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 4:51 AM
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Looking at this pic makes you feel sorry for Tunney's Pasture. I'd love to see a skyline like the one developing at Preston/Carling over at Tunney's. It has so much potential.
I voiced a similar sentiment in the feedback for the Tunney's Pasture revitalization. No one has heard back from them yet, have they? I feel they were going to respond by November... I hope they scrapped their plan and can produce something better.
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I don't mind this proposal at all, at least it's not the usual stump design, but i'm sure this design and height will change for the worst at some point like SOHO Italia.
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I actually really like it. I love the height, I love the location, I love the glass but but design as well (different colour balconies and such to create the spiral effects around the towers) etc...

I also like how they've put a lot of effort in street-level design. The what seems like townhomes, books stores and coffee shops, O-Train entrance and even the proposal for a plaza in the midst of their towers and Soho Italia. They would definitely become an icon for the Ottawa skyline and Little Italy could really become something amazing in the next couple of years.

Hopefully it gets approved as is and it can start construction asap! I'd like to see them before I die -___-
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2013, 4:35 AM
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no problem O-Town... I updated the original render with the Norman and Rochester proposals as well.

Not the biggest fan of G+C but looking forward to some more detailed drawings/renders of this one!
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