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Old Posted Nov 15, 2017, 11:50 PM
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Boise Sports Park

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Given the scale and influence this project could have, I've given it it's own home outside of the Boise development tread.

Boise Hawks, soccer in Downtown Boise by spring 2020? It could happen.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...175383346.html

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A Downtown Boise stadium is starting to look like a reality.

Atlanta-based developer Greenstone Properties is inching closer to finalizing the purchase of 11 acres on the corner of Shoreline Drive and Americana Boulevard, where the stadium would go.
This project would create a new downtown stadium in Boise that would house both the Boise Hawks baseball team as well as a future USL soccer team. The development is located on 11 acres of land southwest of the city core on land occupied by St. Lukes, their business center. It it one block of the Boise river. The total development cost is around $100 million, with $60 of that being for private development. The developer would finance the $40 million dollar stadium with local agency’s reimbursing the developers. It is proposed that the city would invest $3 million, the Greater Boise Auditorium District (GBAD) would invest $5 million, $1 million from the developer and rest paid off by an urban renewal district using tax increment financing over a 20-year period. After the 20 years, the city would own the stadium outright.

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- 5,000 seat baseball stadium, converted to 7,500 for soccer
- 60,000 sq. ft. of retail space
- 300 residential units
- 120,000 sq. ft. office
- Music Venue @ centerfield
- Home plate public plaza
- Potential pedestrian bridge across the river
- 700 stall garage

The city has created a webpage dedicated to the Sports park on their website. It contains the information from several open houses as well as a feasibility study for the stadium and one for the urban renewal district.
http://www.cityofboise.org/boise-sports-park/
https://www.cityofboise.org/media/11...ve_summary.pdf

A link to the city council session where the project was presented to the council. It includes a presentation from CSL (Conventions, Sports and Leisure) on the market feasibility, a presentation about the potential urban renewal district and one from the developer of the project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SchPJKiGpOs

A local development blog has been covering the stadium and was one of the first to break the news:
https://boisedev.com/search?q=stadium

Given the size, location and financial benefits/costs associated with the creation of the stadium, it has spun off both supporting and opposing groups
Supports:
https://betterboisecoalition.com/
Opposition:
https://www.concernedboisetaxpayers.com/



































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Idaho Statesman: http://www.idahostatesman.com/
Better Boise Coalition: https://betterboisecoalition.com/
City of Boise: https://www.cityofboise.org/
City of Boise Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BoiseCity/p...41643392549712

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Old Posted Nov 16, 2017, 8:51 PM
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What do you think the chances are some of that retail will be a grocer?
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2017, 11:05 PM
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I'm not sure. There'd be a stable population there and surrounding it that might make it justifiable. If it happened, it'd probably be something smaller side like a Trader Joes or CVS/Rite Aid/Walgreens type size. There might be a case for a Walmart Neighborhood Market too.

I think it'd come down to what the developer envisions for retail there. Are they thinking only restaurant/retail that caters to the stadium/lunch crowds or retail that serves the neighborhood.
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What do you think the chances are some of that retail will be a grocer?
More likely than a K-Mart
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as an impartial observer(to the grocer, not the stadium, i.e. I live in Meridian) I don't know that a grocer in a sports complex would be a good idea. if I go shopping I want to get in and out easily, I want to be there for as little time as possible. Plus the frozen foods etc... that discourage lingering make lingering a no go. Frankly, I probably wouldn't shop there unless I actually lived in the complex. If enough people lived there that could support a small grocer independently then I change my view. Having a grocer nearby to the stadium complex without having to deal with the actual complex would be best I think.

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Old Posted Nov 20, 2017, 11:15 PM
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It'd be nice if there a was a little bodega or convenience store there so residents can get basic needs/grab'n'go items. Also visitors to the complex could also get similar items.
A Jackson's maybe? With out the fuel aspect.
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Downtown stadium developer plans to submit design documents in January-February

https://idahobusinessreview.com/2017...uary-february/

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Terms of a master development agreement for a downtown Boise stadium and mixed-use commercial, housing and office complex at Shoreline Drive and Americana Boulevard should be in place by the end of the year, according to city officials and the developer.
Does any one have access to the IBR articles and is willing to share the high points?
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2017, 4:16 PM
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A sizable corner grocery should be plenty to serve the neighborhood itself...some percentage of the neighborhood's grocery needs as well as lunch for workers, peanuts as fans show up for games (if allowed in), drinks near the Greenbelt, etc. A supermarket or destination/boutique grocery sounds a little problematic as it would rely on drivers, who would be scared off by game day traffic. Glancing at the drawings it seems like only a smaller store could fit.

The plan itself looks cool, though mixing soccer and baseball seems to make for awkward seating plans.
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Boise suggests stadium safeguards, denies secrecy amid questions over officials’ roles

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...187813453.html

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Over the last year and a half, public officials from three Boise agencies have been briefed on a proposed Downtown sports stadium, offered feedback and guidance, or have met with the project’s developer.

It remains unclear to what extent these contacts, many of which took place outside of the public eye, risked improper influence under Idaho’s transparency laws.

This article is in response to an earlier storry:

Detective looking into claims of illegal meetings over Downtown Boise stadium
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...183145856.html

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An Ada County sheriff’s detective told Pat Rice he’d be looking into accusations that the Greater Boise Auditorium District violated Idaho’s open meeting law in meetings with a developer who wants to build a stadium in Downtown Boise.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2017, 12:26 AM
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New Site?

That proposed Boise sports stadium? It might go somewhere else. Here's why
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...188228719.html

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The stadium proposed in Downtown Boise's southwest corner might not go there after wall.
Mayor Dave Bieter said Tuesday that he is evaluating a proposal to relocate the stadium from the site of a former Kmart now occupied by St. Luke's Health System to land about a half a mile to the northwest - possibly the same parcel where the College of Western Idaho plans to build a Boise campus.
CWI could go into the former Kmart where St. Luke’s has offices at Americana Boulevard and Shoreline Drive, allowing it to open in Boise sooner than it could on a riverfront parcel it owns on the northwest corner of Whitewater Park Boulevard and West Main Street, Bieter told the Idaho Statesman.
Not a lot of hard information on this yet. It seems/reads like the Statesman rushed to get it printed before the end of the day.

After thinking about this proposal a bit, I don't think that it'll go anywhere. I don't see the benefit of developer for switching the site. They own/or will own the land around the current proposed site. Switching to the CWI site, they'd own less and it's condensed onto the one site, while still owning land not swapped with CWI. Without the developer, the city is back to using public funding which is where a large portion of the public outcry came from.



KBOI has an article as well now

New proposal could build downtown Boise sports park on planned CWI campus
http://idahonews.com/news/local/new-...ned-cwi-campus

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The City of Boise says they are looking into a new proposal that involves the proposed downtown stadium project, but the city stresses that at this point it's just an idea that they are looking into.

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Old Posted Dec 18, 2017, 7:39 PM
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With stadium proposal, the clock is ticking
https://idahobusinessreview.com/2017...ck-is-ticking/
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What gets lost Teya Vitu headshotin the proposed downtown Boise stadium chatter is that professional soccer is the driver for the entire project. It’s a stadium first, surrounded by offices, commercial space and apartments.

Stadium opponents want the city to take more time before a stadium decision is made. And now Mayor David Bieter wants all parties to consider moving the stadium project from the Shoreline and Americana location that has been under planning for more than a year to the site that College of Western Idaho bought at Main Street and Whitewater Park Boulevard.
An interesting perspective on one of the time constraints for the project as well as the developers thoughts on the second proposed site.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2018, 5:43 PM
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What's the status of the proposed sports park?
http://www.ktvb.com/news/whats-the-s...park/505341206
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BOISE -- The proposed Boise Sports Park is still a hot topic around the City of Trees. With the New Year, work is underway to finalize the project - which needs to happen soon.

As of December, there's two locations on the table, and stakeholders only have so much time to figure out which site to choose. Last month, the ideal key players had to move the location of the sports park from the potential site on Americana and Shoreline, currently owned by St. Luke's Health System.
A general update. Talks are progressing slowly for both sites but need a resolution soon if they are going to meet the requirements to have the USL expansion team by 2020.
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It would be a shame if this project can't get pushed forward. Boise is such a growing and progressive city. I believe they/we deserve a project of this nature.
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What prosecutors say about auditorium district’s private meetings with stadium builder

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...197300064.html

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The Greater Boise Auditorium District did not violate Idaho’s open meeting law in 2014 when several members of its governing board met privately with an Atlanta developer who wants to build a stadium in Boise, an Ada County prosecutor says.

As a result, the county will not sue the district, deputy prosecutor Shawna Dunn said.

Auditorium District Executive Director Pat Rice welcomed the news.

Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...#storylink=cpy
Article about the outcome of the accusation about violating Idahos open meeting laws. The Ada County Prosecutor believes that they did not violate the law.
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Boise stadium developer expects CWI site decision soon

https://idahobusinessreview.com/2018...decision-soon/

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Downtown Boise soccer/baseball stadium developer Chris Schoen has warmed up to the idea of moving his $70 million stadium-residential-office-retail project to the proposed College of Western Idaho campus site at Main Street and Whitewater Park Boulevard.

An anonymous suggestion last fall to Boise Mayor David Bieter floated the idea of CWI swapping its 10.33-acre Whitewater Park property alongside the Boise River for the 11-acre St. Luke’s Business Center property at Americana and Shoreline Drive.

St. Luke’s is observing from the sidelines.

“We are still under contract to sell Shoreline to Greenstone,” St. Luke’s spokeswoman Anita Kissée said. “From our perspective, nothing is different.”
Looks like we'll have an answer in a couple weeks on whether the stadium project will move sites or not. I'm a little surprised Greenstone is considering this since it seems the original site has a lot more benefits to it than the CWI site as far as size, property already owned, river frontage, and no directly adjacent residential properties.
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I prefer this to be at the CWI site. It seems like a better fit imo.
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Updated News!

That on-again, off-again stadium Downtown is on again. Here's what developer is up to
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...208643094.html

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After more than a year of negotiating local politics and evaluating alternatives, the managing partner of the Boise Hawks ownership group has returned to Plan A: proposing a stadium on the southeast corner of Americana and Shoreline drive in Downtown Boise.
Chris Schoen, also a partner in Atlanta-based developer Greenstone Properties, has scheduled a meeting for people who live near the Shoreline-Americana property. Though the stadium topic has captured converstations around Boise since early 2017, Greenstone has not filed an application to build it. That's about to change, according to a letter announcing the meeting.
Greenstone "will be submitting an application to the city of Boise...for the development of a mixed-sure commercial, retail and residential development, which will include the multi-purpose Boise Sports Park," the letter to neighbors reads.
Looks like the sports park is back to it's original location and we can be expecting some permits for it soon. The meeting will be held in the St. Luke's Shoreline parking lot on April 17 at 6:30-7:30.
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A series of press articles about the neighborhood meeting that took place last night.

Angry residents shout down Boise stadium at neighborhood meeting
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...209198719.html

Neighborhood meeting about proposed Boise stadium turns hostile
http://www.ktvb.com/article/news/loc.../277-541787810

Locals react to proposed sports stadium in public meeting
http://idahonews.com/news/local/loca...public-meeting

Boise Sports Park gets strong opinion on both sides in proposed downtown stadium
https://www.kivitv.com/news/boise-sp...wntown-stadium

Angry crowd meets Boise Sports Park rep at neighborhood meeting
https://boisedev.com/news/2018/4/17/...orhood-meeting

Analysis: Ugly scene at first stadium meeting shows rift over Boise’s growth
https://boisedev.com/news/2018/4/18/...-boises-growth
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Realizing that we really haven't seen how the project will look in the greater context, I threw together an aerial view. The background is from Google earth and the stadium plan is from the Better Boise Coalition. There are lots of empty lots and parking lots surrounding the stadium that are begging to be redeveloped if this project proceeds.
I'm still curious about how vehicles will enter/exit the parking garage. Currently it looks like the ends of the garage are too close to the intersections for good flow.

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I'm torn on the location. I kind of dig it and kind of don't. Either way I would like to see Boise get a decent stadium. Boise deserves it. I've seen high school baseball stadiums better than the current Hawk's Stadium.
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