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Old Posted Jan 1, 2011, 1:09 AM
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They don't even use the term attempted murder here, at least in media releases. I can't think of anyone ever being charged with it.
It's always used in news articles here as long as a weapon of any kind is used. I see " could be charged with attempted murder" all the time.
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2011, 2:14 PM
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They don't even use the term attempted murder here, at least in media releases. I can't think of anyone ever being charged with it.
Just look here: http://www.tbnewswatch.com/SearchRes...px?q=attempted, you'll find plenty of examples.
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2011, 4:15 PM
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There are two on the first page but neither one for Thunder Bay.

Fort Frances, Brampton, Bearskin Lake, a comment from someone saying a stabbing should be considered attempted murder, Deer Lake, Jamaica, that guy in Newfoundland who escaped, Winnipeg... nothing local.

Maybe our police haven't gotten to that part of the criminal code, yet?
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2011, 6:28 PM
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So Montreal ends with 37. Thats 1.94/100k using the latest pop. figures (from 09).

Last 5 years:

06: 43
07: 42
08: 29
09: 31
10: 37

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A few notes:

You can see two main groupings, to the immediate east and west of downtown, and another more spread out group in the north/northeast part of the island. The rest are usually spread out. This is actually more or less consistent with the crime density map I posted last page. The 2009 homicide map shows a similar pattern, around downtown and to the north/northeast. The areas to the east and west of downtown (St Henri, The Point, Verdun, Ville-Emard, Centre-Sud) are known for poverty, while north of the Island is known for having a higher gang concentration (St Michel, Montreal Nord, St Leonard).

The densest part of the island, the Plateau, (where the 335 sign is) is homicide free this year and only one last year.

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Pft, attempted murder.. They don't give out Nobel prizes for attempted chemistry!
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19 was the total for winnipeg this year and theres no news on this and its the lowest its been in a long long long long time........

2009 had 29
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2011, 9:39 PM
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19 was the total for winnipeg this year and theres no news on this and its the lowest its been in a long long long long time........

2009 had 29
Why would buy a newspaper that says "fewer murders this year than any year since X year"? They'd rather buy "HIDE YER CHILDREN HIDE YER WIFE THEY'RE KILLIN' ERR'BODY OUT THERE!"

Good news is not news.
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They'd rather buy "HIDE YER CHILDREN HIDE YER WIFE THEY'RE KILLIN' ERR'BODY OUT THERE!"
Oh I saw something like that on TV once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2011, 3:40 AM
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Crazy start to the year in 5 cities

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...440/story.html
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Vancouver 2010 homicides down more than 50% [in 2010]

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Last Updated: Saturday, January 1, 2011 | 10:23 AM PT

The Vancouver Police Department has one reason to celebrate 2010 — the city had fewer than half the number of homicides than it had in 2009.

There were nine homicides within Vancouver's city limits, down from 19 killings in the previous year.

Police also were called to fewer reports of gunshots being fired, said spokeswoman Const. Jana McGuinness.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...#ixzz19r0EogAV
I guess it didn't hurt that we had a few thousand extra police officers on our streets from January through March.
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Edmonton finished 2010 with 20

Here's the map, most occuring downtown and north of downtown

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&...6&source=embed

And Edmonton's 1st Homicide of 2011 occured New Year's Day as a 23 year old Somali-Canadian man was murdered on 107 Avenue

http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/edmo.../16726741.html

He is the 11th Somali to be murderd in Northern Alberta since August 2008

What's going on with the Somali community?
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2011, 7:08 PM
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We had our first yesterday. A 22 yo man was shot in the upper class Westmount neighborhood.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...641/story.html
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Edmonton finished 2010 with 20

Here's the map, most occuring downtown and north of downtown

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&...6&source=embed

And Edmonton's 1st Homicide of 2011 occured New Year's Day as a 23 year old Somali-Canadian man was murdered on 107 Avenue

http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/edmo.../16726741.html

He is the 11th Somali to be murderd in Northern Alberta since August 2008

What's going on with the Somali community?
Pretty sure I read in reports that Edmonton had 27 murders in 2010.

http://www.canada.com/news/Edmonton+...tml?id=4054251
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Halifax had its first of the year a few days ago, a 19 year old woman stabbed at a party in north end dartmouth
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We had our first yesterday. A 22 yo man was shot in the upper class Westmount neighborhood.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...641/story.html
Lower Westmount. Below Sherbrooke.
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http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...ol-suspensions

EDMONTON — Six students have been suspended from an Edmonton high school for posting threats on social network sites after the fatal stabbing of a teen.

The suspensions at St. Joseph High School follow the death of Niko Arlia, a 17-year-old who was killed at a weekend party.

The messages on Facebook and other sites threaten retaliation for Arlia's death, but police warn that such postings could lead to criminal charges.

Sgt. Kelly Rosnau, a school resource officer, says the messages can escalate quickly and could hamper the police investigation.

Two of the students are suspended with a recommendation for expulsion, but their parents have five days to appeal.

Kevin Moffett, a 19-year-old Edmonton man, has been charged with second-degree murder and weapons offences in the teen's death.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2011, 8:14 PM
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Winnipeg Free Press - PRINT EDITION
Crime rates are a real problem
Community favours continued hysteria over empirical arguments
By: Dan Lett
Posted: 01/19/2011 1:00 AM |

You may not know it, but Winnipeg had a 31 per cent drop in homicides in 2010. There were 32 murders in 2009, but only 22 last year. Given our national reputation as the Devil's Island of Canadian cities, that's got to be reason for celebration. Gold stars for the cops. Perhaps a parade.
But not only have there been no celebrations, there hasn't even been a news release. And that makes me suspect a parade is probably out of the question.
Why so hush-hush? Although crime rates are great fodder for debate, most sensible commentators and analysts will tell you a profound decrease in the number of homicides, while not a bad thing, is not proof of anything, really.
So it is with great relief that we report that nobody has used the dip in homicides for political purposes. Mayor Sam Katz, Premier Greg Selinger, Attorney General Andrew Swan and even Winnipeg Police Chief Keith McCaskill have been silent on this development. Now, if we could somehow get our leaders to show as much restraint and decorum when crime rates go up, then we'd have a shot at a fair and reasoned debate. The fact is that much smaller increases in crime rates have anchored shrill campaigns whose sole purposes is convincing the citizenry that we're on the highway to hell. Throw in an election, and just about everybody believes that an increase in crime rates are proof of the impending apocalypse.
Let's face it, Canadians are junkies for crime rates. The media love them because they boil down complex social problems into tidy, bite-sized numbers. (For proof see the monstrosity known as Maclean's Magazine's "Most Dangerous Cities in Canada" issue, where a handful of additional crimes in one category can label an entire community as most dangerous.) Politicians love them because they are devastating campaign weapons. Police love them because they help justify massive increases in public expenditures for helicopters and increasing numbers of cops.
However, in our less shrill moments, we know there are problems with crime rates. We know these numbers do not actually measure crimes, but charges laid. At some level, we understand that in an era when overcharging is necessary to ensure the gross majority of cases end with plea bargains, the number of charges laid may or may not reflect the number of actual crimes.
We may also acknowledge that the most densely populated jurisdictions tend to have lower overall violent crime and murder rates, which spreads the number of crimes over an exponentially larger populace. And that the number of crimes does not necessarily increase at the same pace as growth in population. That is not always the case; in Canada, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia regularly have much lower violent crime and murder rates than Manitoba or Saskatchewan, despite having smaller populations. But there are many more examples where population density skews the statistics.
Consider that New York City (8.4 million residents) has roughly the same homicide rate as Denver (600,000 people). You would never know from the per capita crime rate that Gotham City records between 400 and 500 murders a year, while Denver hovers around 40. Now, let's talk about which of these cities is more "dangerous."
The other problem is that smaller communities are vulnerable to enormous lurches in crime rates because they start with relatively few crimes to start with. One year ago, Toronto celebrated the fact that its murder rate had decreased by 12 per cent from 2008, evidence that "People City" was much safer than the year before. In reality, that decrease represents just eight fewer murders from 2008.
The other inescapable fact is that the community at large prefers to reject all reasonable empirical arguments in favor of continued hysteria. I remember a story in the Toronto Sun published in the summer of 2009, which reported that violent crime had dropped in Toronto by more than five per cent. The headline of the story was, "Low crime rate, but high anxiety." The story's first paragraph captured the national mindset when it comes to crime statistics: "Toronto's crime continues to go down, but that doesn't mean people feel safer, says a mother whose son was murdered."
It's quite likely the mother of a murdered teenager will never feel safe again. Unfortunately, that mother is not an expert in community safety. She is an expert, lamentably, in personal loss. And yet, she will be used by various ethically deprived constituencies to prove that for many politicians and media types, the crime problem never gets better, even when it gets better.
So let's thank our various Gods, and the police, and perhaps even the politicians (but not the media) for the fact that murders are down in Winnipeg. But let's not organize a parade just yet.
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Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition January 19, 2011 A6
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We got 2 after a man was discovered dead in his Cote-Des-Neiges apartment.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2011, 9:47 PM
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Forgot to post it the other day, but a decapitated body was found in Sault Ste. Marie the other day, and the accused suspect was arrested in Thunder Bay a few days ago, and is now back in Sault for the hearings. Both were known to police.

http://www.sootoday.com/content/news...ryNumber=50404
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#3 after a man being shot right in my neighborhood ( no murder last year) . Cops fear for a second victim life. Police confirmed victims are not from Italian community.

1 dead in Rosemont double shooting

2nd victim fighting for life in hospital

MONTREAL - One man was dead and another remained in hospital in critical condition late Saturday after a shooting in Montreal's Rosemont district.

According to Montreal police Constable Simon Delorme, the victims were found by police around 7:30 p.m. near the corner of 30th Ave. and Bélanger St. At least one bullet hit each man, Delorme said.

They were listed in very critical condition in hospital immediately following the shooting, but around 11 p.m., police confirmed one of the victims had succumbed to his wounds.



Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz1BpadEjAD

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