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Originally Posted by GlassCity
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...main-1.4877508
The black lines represent wards.
Much more detailed by-polling-area map available here: https://wfpdata.s3.amazonaws.com/181...yVOIc_y_-oX9Ig
As far as your comments on Yes arguments not being as good - maybe, but it's hard. It's so easy to oppose things, especially easily-understood things like more money or time spent. How do you explain the importance of pedestrian accessibility and of walkable downtowns to people who neither know about it nor really care? Other arguments, like personal safety and accessibility, didn't seem to resonate really at all, according to polling. So how much could the Yes side really do?
Frankly I'm just not sure Winnipeg was ready for this conversation. And I don't mean that in any sense of judgment of Winnipegers' traits. But Winnipeg's downtown is basically the last major Canadian downtown to start gentrifying. Houses continue to be developed on fields because Winnipeg's geographic area is still small enough where you can live by the perimeter and still be less than 30 mins driving from downtown. And the city's pride and self worth seems to come more from highway interchanges and an Ikea than from a hopeful future of a more exciting and prosperous downtown. It was a near-impossible task to convince a city in which the majority sees the downtown as a black hole that said downtown needs investment, and I commend the VoteOpen campaign for trying.
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Good points raised.
Perimeter is provincial and needs to be done as it is a safety hazard. So that’s really not a comparison. But I get your point.
Places like finishing the ring road( inner ) that would be a good comparison or even better the redevelopment of the Polo Park clusterfuck of roadways. That’s very important to people.
Personally if this came up later on down the road when they start repairing the entire place which HAS to be done soon. And then laid out options in 3D models so people could see. I bet the rest of the city would be more yes then no. But the way it was brought out was silly and like something a grade 3 student would set up.
Protesting also didn’t help. It just pissed off the rush hour traffic people as they are already pisssed off being stuck in traffic. So the point was lost on them. Trust me I have crossed many times this city from north to south in evening rush hour and it’s more then an hour. And I only live on Kingston Row. So far from the burbs.
But let the new tower get built. Let some more development happen. Especially all those empty lots on Main and it will happen. If it doesn’t. The barricades will crumble and you can cross anyway lol.
But I want to see a REAL plan next time. One that includes not just the 4 corners. But those 4 entire blocks. And of course the underground. I have no idea way they ever built those Communist bunker entrances to begin with. Like what stupid designer thought those up? They were ugly from the first day. And that’s another thing . They are so low and ugly. People don’t even know they exist when they drive by. Had they been tall glass with well lite areas around them. People would be more ready to open this area. But as it sits. It’s just 4 ugly corners. Not just because of the barricades. But the corners themselves. Sure we throw up some sculptures here and there. A Christmas tree from the 50s. Some shitty flowers in the summer. And that’s it. Looks like shit.
Light up those buildings in a big way. Some screeens thrown up. One would be to advertise the Jets or Bombers games there. People would for sure notice.
Point is make people notice the 4 corners.