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[limak116]

I'm having trouble envisioning where that is exactly. But looks epic.

[sbarn]

Dear lord, send this back to Atlantic City.

[Hudson11]

belongs in Vegas or AC. Disgusting.

[C.]

The architect is out of Vegas so no surprises there. I like the concept, but the design, particularly on the upper levels, needs a lot of work. It's also too bulky.

[Crawford]

For the extremely low standards of casino design, I think this looks great. Would be pretty epic viewed from Manhattan.

[C.]

It's very hard from the rendering to tell exactly where this is located, but my guess is this parking lot: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Je...4.067101,820m/

So who wants to get started on the diagram?

[chris08876]

For a mega-casino, its quite nice actually. Respectable in my book and another addition to the glorious NY metro Empire.

Heil the City!

That Yacht Marina looks it it can support mega yachts. I think it would be a one of the few for the metro. World Financial Center has one, but I don't believe it has a roof cover for Yachts.

Originally Posted by Crawford

For the extremely low standards of casino design, I think this looks great. Would be pretty epic viewed from Manhattan.

I'm hoping there's a restaurant on top. I'd also be a good location for an observation deck.

[Zapatan]

Dubai called, they're looking for a lost proposal.

[Hypothalamus]

Looks like this is our site:



It almost looks pre-excavated, like he was planning on building something there all along...

[Hudson11]

pretty sure that's the Liberty National parking lot... I doubt they would be keen on having a tall building looming over their course. Unlike a park goer or a home owner they have a legitimate say on something like that since their business depends on it.


LIberty National - Jersey City, NJ by Landon Owen, on Flickr

[Hypothalamus]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

pretty sure that's the Liberty National parking lot... I doubt they would be keen on having a tall building looming over their course. Unlike a park goer or a home owner they have a legitimate say on something like that since their business depends on it.

That is Liberty National, and the man behind the casino tower also built and owns the golf course haha, so obviously they are keen on having a tower.

And there's the club house.

[chris08876]

In terms of the cost, this would be either the 6th or 7th in the world in terms of how expensive it is to build. Assuming the 4 billion figure remains the same.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

pretty sure that's the Liberty National parking lot... I doubt they would be keen on having a tall building looming over their course.

Wait, what? Liberty National has been trying to build three huge towers overlooking their golf course. If anything, they're a real estate development project masquerading as a golf course.

[C.]

Originally Posted by Crawford

Wait, what? Liberty National has been trying to build three huge towers overlooking their golf course. If anything, they're a real estate development project masquerading as a golf course.

Not to mention the owner of Liberty National golf course and the developer for this tower are one in the same! I can just imagine an odd personality disorder where he shows up at a city hall to present his proposal, switches hats, then argues as owner of Liberty National why he's against his own development!

Word on the street is their is very little opposition to the tower from residents of Jersey City and it has been supported from day 1 by the Mayor. There is concerns regarding the casino component, but the general sense is there are more people that want it here as it will add a little more excitement to Jersey City. It's also near one of the most economically-depressed areas of the city, so the hope is the $4 billion investment, along with secondary businesses opening up nearby (restaurants, high end shops), will ride the coattails and help create jobs.

Casino's don't have the stigma they once did. The old generation that vehemently opposed them must be dying out. Most people I know are excited about it.

I would love to see a real methodological sound statistical study on support for the casino in Jersey City, but for right now I guess we have this: Jackpot: Jersey City residents ready for a casino.

[chris08876]

Real Estate Magnate Pushes for a Casino in North Jersey

Jeff Gural, the New York real estate tycoon, had cleaned up well.

The shaggy, steel-gray beard was gone. The customary khakis had given way to a blue suit. As he sat on a dais on Thursday at the Meadowlands Racetrack he has operated in East Rutherford, N.J., for over two years, a smile spread across his face.

A dozen elected officials were in the room to endorse putting a referendum before voters this fall to expand gambling to northern New Jersey and to support Mr. Gural’s vision for a $1 billion casino at the racetrack. In a surprise, Vincent Prieto, a Democrat who is the State Assembly speaker, also showed up to express his support.

Though he was not at the event, Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican who had once been cool to the idea, has also become a proponent of a casino in the northern part of the state.

Building allies among elected officials and capitalizing on a growing momentum to expand gambling in New Jersey, Mr. Gural is seeking to edge closer to what has long been a tantalizing goal: a gambling site just a few miles from New York City.

His pitch: With over 14 million adults within 50 miles of the racetrack, Mr. Gural and his partner, the Hard Rock, estimate that their proposed Hard Rock Casino could generate $400 million a year in tax revenues; half of that would go toward reviving Atlantic City, where four casinos closed last year.

“It’s a spectacular project,” Mr. Gural said.

It must still overcome opposition from Atlantic City and lawmakers in South Jersey and win a statewide referendum. But the battle over the future of gambling in New Jersey has placed Mr. Gural, 73, at the nexus of a fierce tristate gambling war in which Pennsylvania casinos have sucked the life out of Atlantic City; the only casino in New York City is a runaway success; and a $1 billion casino resort in the Catskills is being built to grab patrons from North Jersey as well as New York and Pennsylvania.

Mr. Gural has essentially sat down at the regional blackjack table to play three simultaneous hands. Not only is he bidding for a casino at the Meadowlands Racetrack, seven miles west of Manhattan, but he will also soon submit a bid for a full-scale casino in Nichols, N.Y., near the northern border of Pennsylvania.

Then there is his pat hand: Mr. Gural and his partners own the land underneath the Sands Casino Resort in Bethlehem, one of Pennsylvania’s most successful casinos.

And he does not even like casino gambling.

It is really all about his lifelong love of horses, he said.

“Saving the horse industry is just as important as saving Atlantic City,” said Mr. Gural, who owns farms in Stanfordville, N.Y., and Litchfield, Pa., where he raises as many as 80 Standardbred horses. “There was no way that horse racing could succeed in New York, or ultimately New Jersey, without it being subsidized by another form of gambling.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/06/ny...th-jersey.html

[JR Ewing]

Has anyone determined the proposed location for this. Is it, in fact, next to Hudson National? It would be amazing to be able to take a ferry across the Hudson to this.

[Skyguy_7]

^You'd essentially be taking a 15 min ferry from New York to "Vegas" for golf, spa, dining, shopping, nightlife, the CRAPS table..... Any chance this will be complete before my visit in July?

[drumz0rz]

I hope this never leaves the planning phase. We don't need another Casino and we don't need that ugly thing either.

[ChiTownWonder]

That looks so much like china, hopefully if it gets built (well hopefully it doesn't looking like that) it doesn't end up like the New South China Mall.

[Pete8680]

awhhhhhh heck, BUILD IT!