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Old Posted Sep 16, 2008, 12:51 PM
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I thought it was further east in Stoney Creek?
The Stoney Creek location is just for buses in the parking lot of a defunct grocery store.

The one with the cars in this link;
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That's a temporary spot.

The city is planning a transit terminal at Fifty and QEW, which is more into Stoney Creek and right next to Grimsby.
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Ah, I was convinced I'd read an article about a rail station being built somewhere further east near where they planned to build some stores, but not centre mall. I must have dreamed it :-)
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It's gonna be built to new retail development.
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2008, 6:28 PM
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It's gonna be built to new retail development.
Is that in addition to or instead of the station at James North?
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Addition. GO Transit plans on extending GO Trains to Stoney Creek and eventually to the Niagara region.
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The MTO owes land for their current driver testing centre. There is city land in the area, and large warehouses.

If they want to locate a station along the CN line near the current "Stoney Creek" stop, they can make it happen. Not only that, it will be right beside the expressway - a prime spot for a commuter train. (Provided people are willing to kill the extra time on the train instead of just driving to Burlington GO and saving time on the commute home.)
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Addition. GO Transit plans on extending GO Trains to Stoney Creek and eventually to the Niagara region.
Any idea what kind of timescale we're talking about here?
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^^ Within the next 25 years.
It's all in conjunction with MoveOntario 2020.
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September 24, 2008
By Rob Faulkner
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(Sep 24, 2008)
GO trains every five minutes during rush hour. Train rides from Hamilton to Union Station in Toronto that take 44, not 66 minutes like today. Two rapid transit lines by 2023, and a third in the years just after that.

It's the kind of work that Burlington-mayor-turned-transportation-architect Rob MacIsaac calls "transformational."

And it's a glimpse of the local future envisioned in The Big Move, a $50-billion, 25-year draft plan unveiled yesterday by provincial Crown agency Metrolinx aiming to ease gridlock and pollution in the Toronto-Hamilton region.

It contained dozens of blockbuster projects across the region.

Metrolinx board chair MacIsaac called the plan -- a mix of cycling, transit, integrated fares, mobility hubs and more -- the most significant transportation investment in a generation.

But it leaves a few unanswered questions: such as will Hamilton get the light rail it has been hoping for or will it make do with bus rapid transit?

The 84-page plan commits to building three rapid transit lines in Hamilton within 25 years, and two of these by 2023. One line will run east-west from McMaster University to Centennial Parkway -- what Hamilton has been calling its B line.

A north-south line is planned to run along James Street up the Mountain.

The east-west line is one of the top 15 priorities among the 40 projects Metrolinx wants completed in the next 15 years.

A 2009 benefits analysis study will determine if that line will run with bus or rail, said John Howe, Metrolinx general manager for investment strategy and projects.

"We are definitely very excited to see them include the (east-west) B line as one of the top 15 priorities," said Jill Stephen, city manager of strategic planning.

"We could have it running in the next eight years. We are going to press forward with our studies, our consultation and make sure that Metrolinx knows we are ready."

Howe said construction may start in 2010 and take four or five years.

Capital costs will be covered, it appears, but operating costs will likely be paid by municipalities.

Metrolinx plans more thorough financial details in the years ahead.

MacIsaac said that each project in the draft plan's long list will be evaluated for ridership and environmental, social and economic benefits. A final plan is expected in November.

He describes some work, like GO train electrification, as "transformational." Within 15 years, Lakeshore GO trains will run every 15 minutes at off-peak and every five minutes at peak times, he said.

"They won't have to worry about a schedule, they can just show up at a station and have confidence that a train will be along relatively shortly," MacIsaac said.

Howe said electrification will cost $4 billion and may be complete by 2016, if it starts in 2011.

Metrolinx said two Hamilton stations will be used for the increased number of GO trains, the Hunter Street GO station and LIUNA Station.

GO spokesperson Jessica Kosmack said details are not yet hammered out.

"This regional transportation plan is the first step in a long journey for all of the transportation groups. The next step is establishing what the priorities are and looking at the logistics and the funding," she said.

The Draft Regional Transportation Plan and Draft Investment Strategy will go to the Metrolinx board for discussion and approval Friday.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger urges Hamilton residents to participate in the public consultations Metrolinx is planning for October. He said that, as Hamilton's voice on the agency's board, he will strive to make the plan a reality.

"It's a good news day for Hamilton," Eisenberger said. "We believe in Hamilton that light rail transit is the right way to go. We're pushing for that. Light rail is the next generation of transit systems. We've already made our case and I'll continue to do that."

Last year's $17.5-billion MoveOntario 2020 announcement -- which Metrolinx is implementing -- said $300 million was available for Hamilton rapid transit. More exact timing for capital projects will come in October's five-year rolling budget, MacIsaac said.

Metrolinx said it will use the $11.5 billion in committed provincial money to fund the plan from 2009 to 2015, to accomplish quick wins and its 15 top priorities. It hopes for $6 billion from the federal government, to fund the plan to 2018.

Metrolinx plans to report back to the Ontario government in 2013 on how to fund the rest of the plan, post-2015. Possible sources include tolls.

But MacIsaac said the strategic thinking was to build a system that Ontario likes first, then find ways to generate new money.

Hamilton estimates an east-west line and a north-south line of light rail will cost $1.1 billion, and $160 an hour per vehicle to run. Bus rapid transit would cost $480 million.

"It's a major step along the way because Metrolinx has said that Hamilton will be in the first round of projects to get funded," said Nicholas Kevlahan, a McMaster University math professor and co-founder of Hamilton Light Rail, a citizens group formed to advocate for local light rail transit.

"On the choice between light rail and bus rapid transit, we are very well positioned because the city is already answering the questions that Metrolinx will be asking."

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-- With files from Jackson Hayes and Emma Reilly


http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/440254
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GO Train could take awhile, 20 years. But GO Bus I can see happening within 5 years. You already see GO Bus expanding to East Hamilton/Stoney Creek.
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It's Rush Hour bus service being eliminated, they'll still be running non-rush hour bus service Union to Hamilton (Hamilton to Union).

The elimination of the Rush Hour bus service will be because of the additional train service from the complete the platform work in December at GO Centre.

I view this a minus for Hamilton. One of the unique things for Hamilton, over other cities in our area, is the bus/train option at rush hour. And most afternoons it's quicker taking the bus, then taking the train Union to GO Centre.
I checked with GO Transit about this. Here is what is happening come January:
  • An additional GO Train is being added to the morning run from the GO Centre
  • Lakeshore West GO Trains servicing Aldershot Station will be expanded to regular all-day service
  • Some of the buses currently service Hamilton GO Centre will be reallocated to connect Hamilton GO Centre to the Lakeshore West trains leaving Aldershot Station
  • Rush hour GO Bus service will not be eliminated, but its frequency will be reduced due to the reallocation of buses
The CSR I was talking to was quite friendly and forward about the information. She said the changes are being made to increase the reliability of service times during rush hour, which are adversely affected by traffic congestion during peak travel periods. From personal experience, I'd have to agree with that statement.
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I was thinking 'eliminating' rush hour service was going to mean buses getting rid of the every 15 minute bus during rush hour and going every 30 minutes like they are during non-rush hour times.

Sounds like that is what's going to happen.

It's unfortunate, they are only adding an additional train in the morning. They really need another one in the evening to fill in the 5:34pm to 6:35pm gap, i.e. a 6:04pm.
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The January schedule is not out yet, but from what I gathered the rush hour frequency would be every 20 minutes.

This really is not all doom and gloom. The bus is not being removed from Hamilton, it is being reassigned. It'll be connecting Hamilton GO to Aldershot station. This will give a welcome alternative to the ride home in the afternoon.That 61 minute delay between trains is annoying. With PM rush extended to Aldershot and bus connection to Hamilton, the afternoon trip should be much better now.
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The new bicycle shelter is in at the Hamilton GO Centre. Basically a modified bus shelter with bike racks inside. Somehow I was imagining something a little more secure.
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They're building a bike shelter at the Appleby GO station. Security is not an issue there (well except for the time someone smashed the hell out of my rear rim) but a shelter is a huge benefit for those who ride in the winter. No more scraping ice off the brakes or finding out your cables are frozen a moment too late.

The Hamilton GO station as far as I know is the best bike storage in the system. Covered and monitored 24 hours a day.

I'm still looking forward to that 7:30 train.
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GO adding Hamilton train in 2009
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Hamilton is getting an extra morning GO Train early in 2009.

GO Transit announced recent track improvements will allow the Toronto-bound train which leaves Oakville at 7:58 a.m. to start its run from Burlington Aldershot at 7:32 a.m. on Jan. 5.

This 12-car train will originate in Hamilton later in early 2009 when the Hamilton train layover site is finished.

The train will run as an express from Oakville to Union Station.

GO made the announcement along with other service changes including two early, ‘homebound’ trains on the Lakeshore lines, one westbound and one eastbound.

Starting Jan. 5, a new weekday westbound train will leave Union station at 3:15 p.m., operating express to Clarkson and making all stops to Burlington. A similar eastbound train will leave Union at 5:10 p.m.

These new trips are intended to relieve crowding, meeting growing ridership needs, Go Transit said in a statement.
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Starting Jan. 5, a new weekday westbound train will leave Union station at 3:15 p.m., operating express to Clarkson and making all stops to Burlington. A similar eastbound train will leave Union at 5:10 p.m.

These new trips are intended to relieve crowding, meeting growing ridership needs, Go Transit said in a statement.
I'm guessing, "A similar eastbound train will leave Union at 5:10 p.m." is a mis-print as it that was the case it would be going towards Oshawa. I'm guessing the eastbound train will be heading to Union.

It's too bad they are only putting one on the much sought after 3:15pm departure. I know so many people looking to leave work mid-afternoon.....

Really, they should be plugging the rush hour gap that exists from 5:34pm to 6:35pm, with a say a 6:04pm train.
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I'm guessing the eastbound train will be heading to Union.
Or, it could be westbound out of Union. Definitely not eastbound out of Union towards servicing Hamilton.
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GO Transit announced recent track improvements will allow the Toronto-bound train which leaves Oakville at 7:58 a.m. to start its run from Burlington Aldershot at 7:32 a.m. on Jan. 5.

This 12-car train will originate in Hamilton later in early 2009 when the Hamilton train layover site is finished.
This should amount to a 7:17 train out of Hamilton in 2009. It's a little earlier than I was hoping for but nonetheless an improvement. 14 more minutes of sleep - every bit counts.
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