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Old Posted Jan 16, 2019, 7:53 PM
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If your intent is to get all those different, and often at cross purposes, groups to come to agreement, then nothing would ever get built!

The Blue Horizon proposal seems to be a real job. The Post brothers aren't known for having a light touch, bottom line rules the day with them. I don't see why the old front section of the building can't be saved and reused and the back, younger and not very special part of the building be torn down. There's plenty of lot size and a tower could be built without having to do any over build.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2019, 8:09 PM
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If your intent is to get all those different, and often at cross purposes, groups to come to agreement, then nothing would ever get built!

The Blue Horizon proposal seems to be a real job. The Post brothers aren't known for having a light touch, bottom line rules the day with them. I don't see why the old front section of the building can't be saved and reused and the back, younger and not very special part of the building be torn down. There's plenty of lot size and a tower could be built without having to do any over build.
CORRECTION: Post Brothers (the Pestronk brothers) are NOT involved. The Orens Bros. are.

"The $22 million project is being developed by a partnership between Orens Bros. Real Estate Inc. and Mosaic Capital Partners, both of Philadelphia."

http://www.philly.com/real-estate/co...-20190115.html
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2019, 8:21 PM
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If your intent is to get all those different, and often at cross purposes, groups to come to agreement, then nothing would ever get built!
I don't know, maybe and it's not really worthwhile to explore a fantasy. But I wish something could be done to consolidate all these various commissions and mandatory meetings, some have teeth, some don't. It's confusing, it's time consuming, expensive, and each group is working in a silo, not concerned about the greater good but focused on narrow mandates. No one is saying, yea, maybe such and such project could be built with better materials and some immediate neighbors might be inconvenienced but if it adds revenue, vibrancy, and jobs, isn't that a good thing and doesn't that trump all the other, more trivial concerns? I just think a more holistic and streamlined approach is needed. And also, none of this forums have a place for city officials to explain to NIMBYs how their demand to reduce the number of units/floors in a certain project impacts the city's coffers both in the short term (RE transfer fees) and the long term (RE taxes after the abatement).
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2019, 2:47 AM
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Damn. If I was king of the world, there would be a single committee to review a project holistically, with input from a preservationist (to assess any historical implications), an economist (to weigh in on how a project will impact city revenues), an urban planner (to assess how a project impacts the streetscape), an architect (design recommendations), a zoning expert, and a neighborhood advocate (to rep the NIMBYs). Their word would be final.

And to hell with the myriad of committees and red tape.
I feel like you basically just described the different fields/departments within the city planning profession.
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2019, 11:53 AM
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As Old City booms, new buildings struggle to make themselves part of the neighborhood | Inga Saffron
These two projects are just the beginning of massive change in Old City. At least two high-rise towers have been proposed, along with several townhouse developments. The National and 218 Arch have established an important precedent. They’ve shown that new buildings can earn their place in the neighborhood by paying attention to the past.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2019, 5:41 AM
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Here's a pair of articles from Hidden City on historic preservation, one on buildings lost in 2018, one on buildings saved.

https://hiddencityphila.org/2018/12/...dings-of-2018/

https://hiddencityphila.org/2019/01/...saved-in-2018/
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2019, 4:38 PM
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I really like how they're planning on opening it up along Market street. Could be a great space around the station.
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Consider me whlemed. On the plus side I like reintegrating the building and surrounding area with the street. On the downside, how is there on a single residential unit planned for that massive lot, which is next to an El station?
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