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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 7:20 PM
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Hamilton Argylls soldier fatally shot at National War Memorial

This event has hit home, locally....

Hamilton Argylls soldier fatally shot at National War Memorial

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/49...-war-memorial/

A Hamilton reservist has been shot and killed while standing guard before the National War Memorial in Ottawa Wednesday morning.

Ottawa Police confirmed the death but would not identify the victim until family members could be notified.

Watch live broadcast of Halton police press conference.

Hamilton East-Stoney Creek MP Wayne Marston, who heard the gunshots from inside the NDP's Parliament caucus office, said the death is heartbreaking.

During the shooting rampage he was escorted out of a side door, through the Senate building and came out in front of the War Memorial as officials were performing CPR on the soldier.

"All I saw was the boot," Marston said, adding that he instantly recognized the regalia as the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.

"My heart just sank," he said.

"He would have been standing there with an unloaded weapon," Marston said. "It's heart breaking – young man guarding our memorial . . . the symbolism."



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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 7:23 PM
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Growing media scrum outside the Armoury


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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 7:37 PM
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I really feel sorry for his family.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 8:45 PM
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Just awful.

I hope we get a huge turnout on Remembrance Day.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 9:08 PM
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He's name is Nathan Cirillo
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Just terrible. RIP Nathan. He was the same age as me and well liked and respected in the Hamilton community. Gone too soon.
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A Sherwood Secondary graduate as well. Went to the same school.
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This is Cpl. Nathan Cirillo.

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This has been a truly amazing response to a very unfortunate and tragic event. I'm overwhelmed by the way the city responded. I expected it to be important, but not on the scale we witnessed.

I'm very proud of Hamilton. Very proud.
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Did anyone read the opinion column today written by Dreschel. titled "Cpl. Cirillo was not a hero" Point blank thats what the heading was in the print version, and for a while was the title of the online version.

The public is very upset with Dreschel and calling for his dismissal. I find the article digusting, and trying to garner attention and reads for the newspaper.

http://www.thespec.com/opinion-story...cidental-hero/

Who is Dreschel one to determine what a hero is. Because he sits behind a big desk and can read a literal defintion from a dictionary.Everyone is entitled to an opinion. But an opinion as public as this 3 days after the soldier was buried. Terribly poor taste, the editor should take flack for this as well.

The article was clearly written to upset people and bring attention to the newspaper. Just disgusting in my opinion. Report the news, dont try to be something you're not.
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I just read it. While I do see where Dreschel is coming from, I think he's ignored two important things:

1. It's too soon to be expressing that opinion. We all need time.

2. There's a greater picture here. Cpl. Cirillo may have "just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time" but he actually was "valiantly defending a position" even if just a symbolic one. His death (and that of W.O. Vincent) have awoken Canadians - or perhaps re-awoken - to the fact that we're not immune to violence driven by ideologies that differ from our own, even if the individuals involved in both of these instances was acting alone and may have embraced their causes out of convenience as a way to channel their frustrations. We DO care what happens on our own soil. Our national and local memorials DO mean something. We're very attached to them, and the attack that killed Cirillo may have been incidental but it hit us in the heart. The fact is we likely are a target of ISIS now and even if they did not orchestrate what happened we are going to show our support for those who are at the vanguard. And we may even consider them to be heroes.
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^Yes.

Dreschel has massive bollocks for writing that. But what's most interesting to me is that his superior would have had to sign off on that column. Two or more people sat down and decided that it was appropriate to publish that opinion piece > Stunning.
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^Yes.

Dreschel has massive bollocks for writing that. But what's most interesting to me is that his superior would have had to sign off on that column. Two or more people sat down and decided that it was appropriate to publish that opinion piece > Stunning.
And that is exactly where they need to man up and take credit (something which they have not done, thus far). Regardless of whether you have this opinion or not, this ain't the right time. Not even close. Should never have even made the press.
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The Spec editor posted an article today claiming they stand by their columnists and would never suppress their opinions.

So you mean to tell me if a columnist had the opinion that Hitler was a hero they wouldn't suppress it. Or if a firefighter died fighting a fire and a columnist wrote an article titled "the firefighter was not a hero" they wouldn't suppress it. Or Rob Ford is a hero for running a city while on crack. Give me a break.

They did this for controversy and publicity. That is why the editor signed off and approved it. It's no secret newspapers are hurting for subscriptions and advertising dollars. Funny thing is it has back fired because I know first hand of dozens of ppl who have cancelled their subscriptions to the spec because of this.

There's also an online petition to dismiss Dreschel which has amassed close to 2000 signatures.

Good riddance.
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There's also an online petition to dismiss Dreschel which has amassed close to 2000 signatures.

Good riddance.
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Yes, there's nothing like a little freedom of the press, until there isn't.
Yeah, I can understand people being upset and it seems like this was mostly an effort to drive controversy on the basis of raw emotions, but demanding a writer be fired for an editorial that was a little questionable is wrong.

Personally I don't quite get the efforts to paint Cpl. Cirillo as a hero. He was a victim of an unprovoked bout of senseless violence that targeted him for symbolic reasons. He sounds like he was a decent person, but he didn't have time to do anything heroic. He wasn't supposed to be putting his life on the line where he was (if that was the case he probably wouldn't have been effectively unarmed). From the sounds of things he hoped to make a difference and help people, but he was killed before he had the chance.

I have full respect for the families of the victims of this violence, but that's what they were, victims. The same as the majority of victims of such violence.
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