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I personally don't support this decision, but nonetheless the bulldozers don't care. A great city is one where architecture from many different eras converges and a place where preservation is key. Barnard College is a beautiful campus, and has inherited different buildings over its lifetime - periods include the 1910's, 1950's, 1960's, 1980's, 1990's, and 2000's. But with the demolition of Lehman Hall, a striking 1960's building, Barnard loses one beautiful facet of its past in the name of progress. Although the goal was to attain "more space", the new building is roughly the same size as its predecessor, so the point in tearing down the current beautiful library for a new, and modern building is quite simply pointless. If the new building is taller, then and only then is there a reason to tear down the current icon for a newer building. If anything what Barnard failed to do is integrate the current Lehman Hall with the future building, something Norman Foster's Hearst Tower does admirably. The current facade of Lehman could be kept, and the back portion facing Claremont Ave (with the brick facade) could be torn down for a new taller tower.

Lehman Hall (current building)






Teaching and Learning Center (new building)







Barnard Campus might not feel the same with this new modern building, because the stone of Lehman Hall provided a bridge between the glass of the Diana Center and the brick masonry of Barnard Hall and Milbank Hall. That proverbial bridge will be replaced with more glass.

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Barnard plans to demolish Lehman



Columbia Spectator

April 15, 2013

Barnard wants to demolish Lehman Hall and build a new 11-story library in its place, President Debora Spar announced Monday evening—but the approximately $150 million price tag poses some major financial hurdles.

Spar broke the news at the Barnard Student Government Association meeting and said that because of the high cost, she is not sure if the plan is even feasible. The planning process for how to build the library has not yet begun, she said.

“We are not going to move ahead with planning until we know we have the money in the bank,” Spar said. “Once we clear that hurdle, then we will begin the planning process.”

Currently, Lehman, which houses Wollman Library and a number of faculty and department offices, stands at four stories tall. Spar wants to construct an 11-story library, the same height as neighboring Altschul Hall.

“The most expensive parts of any building project are demolition and foundation work. After that, building the additional floors is not that much,” Spar said. The $150-160 million figure includes the costs of inflation, contingencies, moving offices, and swing space.

“We are trying to be as conservative as possible, which means using the biggest number that makes sense,” Spar said.

Spectator reported last February that an architectural firm was hired to assess Wollman Library’s functionality for student learning needs and propose a small, medium, and large construction plan for the library.

“It turns out that the most cost-effective plan, by any way you measure it, is the large option,” Spar said. “In financial terms, it only makes sense to do something big.” The other options would buy Barnard only 20 to 30 years before another expensive renovation would be needed.

The “small” option, which included renovating the library internally without knocking it down, was rejected because there would be bigger renovation costs down the road, Spar said.

A Barnard spokesperson said that Lehman Hall complies with federal fire codes, the Americans with Disabilities Act, and several other regulations, however "we would hope that any future building would not only meet code, but provide additional as well as technologically upgraded academic spaces for students, faculty and staff.”

The “medium” model—adding additional floors to the building without tearing it down—turned out to be the least cost-effective proposal.

Spar said that the project will add classroom, conference, and faculty office space—square footage that Barnard currently lacks.

While Barnard has the legal air space to construct a building as high as 44 stories, Spar said the administration would not consider a building taller than 11 stories.

“If you built a building taller than 11 stories you’d really start to destroy the fabric of the neighborhood,” she said.

Despite the size of the building, there are no ambitions to grow the student body or faculty, she said.

Student leaders at the meeting said they supported the plan.

“I definitely think that 11 floors makes total sense,” SGA Representative for Community Development Winn Periyasamy, BC ’13, said. “We definitely need more spaces to study, more classrooms, and more space in the library for just books and resources. We have an amazing library and library staff, but more space is not a bad thing.”

“I’m really confident that the administration is going to be able to follow through with it,” Periyasamy, a Spectator photographer, added.

“I definitely think if we are going to be competing with other colleges on the same level, we need to upgrade,” Class of 2014 President Aliza Hassine, BC ’14, said. Lehman “is not conducive for group studying or anything that the 21st century students require of a library.”

“A lot of it looks to what students of this generation really need,” Hassine, who participated in a student focus group with the building’s architecture firm last year, added.

Spar emphasized that these plans are all hypothetical because they are contingent on raising significant funds.

“If we can’t raise the money to do the full-on project, we’ll probably clean it up, make it a little bit better, and continue with the Capital Campaign,” Spar said. “We would like to do something big. We have to figure out what that is.”

“It’s such a hypothetical at this point, only because the money has to come,” Hassine said. “When it does get more concrete, I know there’s going to be a lot of student outreach.”

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Barnard taps architecture firm to design teaching and learning center in Lehman's place

Columbia Spectator

April 8, 2014

Nearly one year after announcing plans to demolish Lehman Hall, Barnard has contracted an architecture firm to build a teaching and learning facility in Lehman’s place.

On Monday afternoon, Barnard College Dean Avis Hinkson, BC ’84, TC ’87, sent an email to the student body announcing the selection of Skidmore, Ownings & Merrill LLP to lead the design of the building. The new facility will house a library, labs, classrooms, and a cafe, as well as new study, dining, and conference spaces.

“We are thrilled to partner with SOM to develop this important new campus landmark,” Barnard President Debora Spar said in the email. “It was crucial to find a firm that would work well with our community throughout the design and construction process, and SOM is the perfect choice. Barnard has a small campus and each building plays a vital role in our community. I am confident that this new building will have a transformative impact on our campus and move with us squarely into the future.”

A steering committee with 24 members that included Barnard trustees, senior administrators, faculty, and students, selected SOM, one of the largest architecture, design, engineering, and urban planning firms in the world, based on the firm’s history of creative and innovative architecture, its internal commitment to women’s leadership, and its proven track record on similar projects for academic institutions.

SOM is currently designing Cornell University’s new campus on Roosevelt Island and the 375,000 square foot multipurpose facility for The New School, located at 14th Street and 5th Avenue.

“We feel privileged to be working with Barnard on this project,” Roger Duffy, SOM’s partner in charge of design for the project, said in the email sent by Hinkson. “Through our design process and engagement with the community, we hope to capture the spirit of Barnard as an institution of higher learning and to create a building that both reflects that spirit and gives it space to thrive. We would like to thank the committee at Barnard that selected SOM, and look forward to collaborating with a diverse group of the Barnard community as we move forward with the design process.”

According to Hinkson, the building development process is still in the very early planning stages, but as the process continues, members of the Barnard community will meet in subcommittees to focus on the fundamental elements of the project as it moves to the design phase and beyond.

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Barnard faculty frustrated by plans to remove 40,000 books from library

Columbia Spectator

December 8, 2014

Barnard’s faculty and staff claim they were shut out of the decision-making process for the new library, which faculty say also led to the resignation of the Dean of Barnard Library and Information Services Lisa Norberg.

Administrators outlined the plan for the new Teaching and Learning Center, which includes removing 40,000 books from Barnard’s on-site collections and moving research librarians to cubicles rather than offices, at a Dec. 2 faculty meeting, according to faculty and library staff present at the meeting.

Barnard Provost Linda Bell informed the faculty and library staff of Norberg’s resignation in an email sent on Nov. 21 and obtained by Spectator, stating that Norberg “will be leaving the College on December 31st of this year to devote her full attention to the launch of an exciting non-profit venture focused on Open-Access Network.”

At the Dec. 2 faculty meeting, after Barnard President Debora Spar presented the administration’s plans for the new library, Norberg discussed the transition of the library collections and touched on her imminent departure.

Faculty members who were present at the meeting said it was then that Norberg began to cry. A handful of faculty and staff told Spectator that they perceived that Norberg’s departure was prompted by a series of administrative decisions for the library that were in conflict with Norberg’s vision.

“I feel like she was really hobbled, that it was impossible for her to get anything done. She was just disrespected,” a Barnard library staff member, who asked to remain anonymous to protect job security, told Spectator.

A Barnard faculty member, who asked to remain anonymous to not damage relationships with administrators, echoed a similar perception to the librarians’.

“I think it was really mourning that she couldn’t do the job she wanted to do. I think it was a very stressful situation. I think it was just kind of a very emotional thing and a very difficult thing for her to be the face of this thing,” the faculty member said.

Norberg did not respond for a request to comment. Barnard’s administration said that they were not able to provide responses by press time.

Faculty frustration

Several faculty members say that Norberg is not alone in her dissatisfaction with the administration’s decisions, noting that their three main areas of concern have to do with reducing the library’s collection from 200,000 to 160,000 books, minimizing the space of the library in the new building, and a lack of transparency in the planning process.

Additionally, the second Barnard Library & Academic Information Services staff member, who wished not to be named to protect job security, said that research librarians had no method to voice their needs for conducting private research consultations with students, and that the circulation staff was kept out of conversations about where the books on reserve and the closed collections will be housed.

“The new building is going to be much larger than the current building, but the amount of space allotted to books and the number of books in the library will shrink,” Elizabeth Castelli, Barnard’s Ann Whitney Olin professor of religion, said. “People expressed concerns about that. People expressed concerns about how the planning is going, who’s involved in making these decisions, and the effect of shrinking the physical holdings of the library,” Castelli said.

Additionally, Spar told faculty at the Dec. 2 meeting that the size of the new library won’t allow for new acquisitions to be added in the future.

“We are a very small library, but our books circulate a lot. The impact of not having those books accessible is big,” the second Barnard Library & Academic Information Services staff member said.

Several faculty said that, beyond the 40,000 books that will be permanently stored off site after the new library is built, around 12,000 books will be donated to Better World Books, a nonprofit organization that sells used books, and other books will available for individuals to take as they wish.

Of Barnard’s 198,000 current volumes, 20,000 that are unique to Barnard’s library will be stored at Columbia libraries during the construction of the new library, and the rest will be in storage.

Once the library is built and the books have been deaccessioned or donated, the new library will only house 75 percent of Barnard’s 166,000 volume collection.

The librarians were not consulted, though the administration did include faculty and students at several listening sessions, a Barnard Library & Academic Information Services staff member, who wished not to be identified to protect job security, said, adding that some senior library staff members attended these sessions, but felt that none of the sessions was dedicated to hearing the library staff’s thoughts and ideas for the library.

“It wasn't that we weren't put in control—we weren't remotely considered or consulted,” the library staff member added.

At conflict with Barnard's mission?

Multiple faculty and library staff members claimed that these decisions do not reflect the mission of Barnard as a liberal arts college.

“How are we conceptualizing the role of the library as it relates to the mission of the college? Twenty first-century colleges are made up of all kinds of media—that’s a fact and that’s, generally speaking, a good thing—but I think the concern really has to do with what the balance is of different kinds of resources for an institution like ours and what are the criteria that are being used to decide how that balance is being established for us?” Castelli said.

“When you look at the design of the building and the first thing you see is the Athena Center and the café, it in fact has usurped the mission of the college, which is for critical thinking and the production of knowledge,” the same unnamed Barnard faculty member said.

Additionally, the Barnard Library & Academic Information Services staff member said that research librarians will operate out of cubicles, which is far from ideal when meeting with students for private research consultation.

“When we have a private research consultation we try to create a space to talk about research without distractions. It’s one of our major services. Barnard is very much a service-focused institution. If we are creating a situation where we can’t do the work we do, it’s tough,” the second library staff member said.

Faculty said they are currently strategizing about how to get their input heard by the administration.

The Barnard administration did announce after the faculty meeting that it will be conducting two feedback sessions on Dec. 8 and Dec. 10 for faculty to attend. Though Kim Hall, the Lucycle Hook Chair, professor of English and Africana studies, noted she won’t be attending due to scheduling conflicts and because she doubts the feedback will be taken into much consideration.

“A number of faculty don’t feel heard. I do think there will be pushback at those meetings,” Hall added.

Hall said she plans to draft a statement for someone at the meeting to read in her absence. But the time frame for faculty to act is short, as Barnard’s board of trustees is scheduled to meet on Wednesday, when the board will vote on approving the timeline for demolition at Lehman Hall and construction of the new Teaching and Learning Center.

Replacing Norberg

With Norberg’s resignation, Castelli said she’s concerned about how the library will be managed effectively.

“We are now going into an intensified planning period precisely at the time when the person who is best equipped to guide us through that, Lisa Norberg, won’t be here,” Castelli said. “The additional concern is going into an intensive planning process at a more granular level for a new library in all of its manifestations without the guidance of someone who is actually a professional in that area.”

Many faculty and library staff noted that Norberg’s leadership was one of a kind.

“She has a really perfect background for this situation in which Barnard has found itself in being this new technological environment,” Anne Jonas, program manager for Barnard’s Center for Research on Women, said. “She has a background in information science and is very passionate about open access, which is something that a lot of times gets swept aside. She has really helped Barnard be at the forefront on that issue, she’s just been very aware of those issues of access and information equality and power dynamics in a way that has allowed Barnard to be more visible around the world.”

Hall also noted that Norberg, who began working at Barnard in 2010, was progressive when it came to accessibility of learning and implementation of technology and new media in libraries.

“I think Lisa is a quiet visionary. It could be easy to kind of overlook the depth of her knowledge of what libraries are and will be in the 21st century, and this is a huge loss for us, someone who was really invested in the mission of Barnard as a liberal arts college for women, and what that meant and how the library supports how we try to shape women,” Hall said.

Bell concluded her email announcing Norberg’s resignation by acknowledging Norberg’s long list of contributions and accomplishments while dean of the Barnard library, which included reorganizing Barnard Library & Academic Information Services and creating Instructional Media & Technology Services, allowing librarians to take the lead on digital initiatives, adding a digital archivist to the Barnard Archives and Special Collections, establishing the Empirical Reasoning Lab, and establishing On Our Terms, the first open access journal for undergraduate research and scholarship at Barnard.

“Lisa was really about being forward-thinking and doing difficult things, but she’s also really one of the most thoughtful people I’ve ever known,” Jenna Freedman, a Barnard research librarian, said.

Bell noted in her email that the College will soon begin a search for Norberg’s replacement, but did not specify a timeline for that search.

Castelli said that for now, Norberg’s responsibilities will be distributed among the remaining library staff. She expects a search committee to start looking for Norberg’s replacement next semester.

“Lisa created an environment to foster innovation and excellence in her staff and to support that. And that requires listening and having conversations and all that. We haven’t had that in constructing the building,” the Barnard Library & Academic Information Services staff member said. “To think that we’ll have it once we’re in the building will be naïve.”

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Plans for New Barnard Library Prove Divisive



Library Journal

January 22, 2015

After years of planning, New York City’s Barnard College is ready to begin construction on its new Teaching and Learning Center (TLC), which will replace Barnard’s Wollman Library in Lehman Hall.
New academic libraries are usually considered a positive thing by their college constituencies. Barnard’s plan of action, however, has proved to be divisive, in the process throwing a light on the question of who gets to make the decisions in a library, and who is shut out of the conversation.
In December 2014, Barnard president Debora Spar presented library faculty with plans for the new building. And while the original plans were “very faculty-focused,” according to one librarian, faculty were reportedly not happy with many of the decisions that had been made. Much of their dissatisfaction has centered on the decision to send a large part of the collection—some 40 percent of the library’s holdings—offsite, and the lack of transparency surrounding the decision-making process.
Librarians were equally unhappy at what they perceived as a fragmenting of the library’s effective system of instruction—“the unit that is BLAIS,” according to one librarian, who requested that LJ not use her name—into discrete areas.
“Anything supporting traditional library service is being moved out,” she added. When library staff members have voiced their concerns to Barnard administration, she added, “I feel like we’re being characterized as change-averse and anxious.”
The new library will meet its future without the guidance of Lisa Norberg, former dean of the Barnard Library and Academic Information Services (BLAIS). She resigned her position in December 2014—although not, as has been reported, to protest her lack of input into the new space. Norberg will be devoting her time to her nonprofit open access venture, K|N Consultants, which she has developed with Rebecca Kennison, who will be leaving her position as Director of the Center for Digital Research and Scholarship at Columbia in February. “We’d been plotting this for over a year and a half,” Norberg told LJ, “and it had come to a point where we couldn’t go out and fund raise or pursue any kind of foundational money while we were still affiliated with our institutions, because that would have been a clear conflict of interest. So there were strong motivating factors for making this move. I’m sorry that it got conflated with the problems with the new building.”
Several BLAIS librarians, however, believed that Norberg also felt she could not be an effective advocate for the library in the present situation. “Her vision is really about people,” said one. “For me, that is and has always been, particularly over the course of the past five years, under Lisa’s tenure, the great strength of the Barnard library.”
HALF A CENTURY OF INNOVATION
Since its founding in 1889, Barnard has been affiliated with Columbia University, several blocks to the south. Barnard students have full privileges at the extensive Columbia libraries, but the college has always maintained its own library. When Lehman Hall opened in 1959, it was the first new building on the Barnard campus since 1925, and the existing library moved from its 10,000 square foot quarters in Barnard Hall to what was then considered a thoroughly modern facility. A 1958 announcement of the groundbreaking ceremony in the student paper the Columbia Spectator mentioned a state-of-the-art language lab and the fact that “all the social science departments will be brought together for the first time.”
The next half-century saw a steady stream of innovations. Barnard, a private women’s college, is an undergraduate institution, and the library evolved to educate and empower students at the beginning of their academic careers. Among other features, it currently holds an Instructional Media and Technology Services department that circulates more than 1,000 pieces of equipment per semester, a $700,000 grant-funded Empirical Reasoning Lab, more than 50,000 items in its archival digital collections, and an extensive women-authored zine collection, as well as over 200,000 volumes and a large collection of physical archives.
Norberg was hired in 2010 after having served as the director of public services at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill for ten years. She arrived inspired by the culture already in place as well as the challenges, which included helping revise the physical space—“the ultimate usability challenge,” she told Barnard Magazine—and developing student and faculty outreach initiatives.
She made a number of student-centered changes, most notably creating the library’s Personal Librarian program. This initiative matches each first-year student with a librarian who becomes her point of contact for the library—“a go-to-person for all things library-related,” according to the BLAIS website. Each academic department and constellation—student dormitory-based groups—receives one as well. Norberg was enthusiastic about her work at the library, and the administration was open and supportive. Six months into her tenure, then-Provost and Dean of Faculty Elizabeth Boylan told Barnard Magazine, “it’s already clear that we will be benefiting from Lisa’s prior experience with space planning and user services, as well as her vision for how our collections and services should develop to serve the changing needs of our community.”
PLANS IN PROGRESS
At the time, plans for a new library were already in progress. The original idea involved moving the library into the Diana Center, Barnard’s student center, which ultimately proved infeasible. On her arrival at BLAIS, Norberg was put in charge of a task force to plan for a gut renovation of the existing library in Lehman Hall. That option, in turn, was put on hold when the Barnard Board of Trustees requested a study to compare the cost of renovating to that of new construction.
The study was completed in the spring of 2013, and that July the board decided to move ahead on plans to demolish the current building and replace it with the TLC. The architectural firm of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM) was chosen by a 24-member steering committee of trustees, senior administrators, faculty, and students in April 2014, and formal planning for the building began in earnest. Days after the announcement, project leaders from SOM convened a “visioning session” with Barnard President Debora Spar, College Dean Avis Hinkson, outgoing COO Greg Brown, Norberg, and a selection of administrators and student representatives. Students outlined criticisms of the existing library, including the need for a 24-hour study space, a lack of defined library functions, and insufficient natural light. (The concrete grill on the building’s façade was designed by solar consultants Victor and Aladar Olgyay—who, according to the AIA Guide to New York City, “somehow got their north arrow confused: the grillage faces slightly south of east, where there is negligible sun loading.”)
In the spring of 2014, a consultant from SOM asked Norberg to compile a spreadsheet with projections for the BLAIS collections in the new library, detailing what should remain, what should be stored offsite, and what could be deaccessioned. Norberg presented what she felt was a progressive plan, she told LJ, taking into account Barnard’s relationship with Columbia and the unique and important aspects of its own collection. “The reaction from the planning committee and administration in particular was one of dismay,” she said. “They really didn’t envision the library giving that much space to books.”
At the same time, librarians and staff were gathering their own input. “Within the library we had a lot of conversations about what we wanted to see in the new space,” a former BLAIS librarian, who requested that her name not be used, told LJ. “We… developed a very specific assessment committee so that we could communicate to the architects what we wanted, as one of many factors to consider.” While there were information sessions for Barnard staff, and another for students and faculty, she said, “there was never a moment when an architect came and spoke to any of the lower levels of the library staff.”
This sentiment was echoed by a current BLAIS librarian: “We were, in fact, the last people considered.”
A RANGE OF CONCERNS
The decision was eventually made for Barnard to keep roughly 60 percent of the collection on site and send the other 40 percent into offsite storage, although this number is reportedly still under revision. All books will be moved offsite during construction; where they will be stored is reportedly an open issue. (Barnard’s press spokesperson declined to comment on plans involving the new building.) Columbia has agreed to house a small number—around 20,000—of “high-circulation, non-duplicative titles” in its Butler Library during construction, according to Damon Jaggars, interim vice provost and university librarian at Columbia. Class reserves will remain on campus during construction in the temporary library space located in LeFrak Gymnasium.
While there had been some discussion of temporarily storing Barnard’s special collections at ReCAP, Columbia’s offsite facility, both institutions decided that this was not a good option. “Those materials, instead of staying at ReCAP, would have eventually come back. That’s an enormous amount of processing on both ends to make that happen, and it would have been a costly endeavor for them and us,” Norberg explained. “I completely understand why that decision was made.”
Whether any of the collection to be stored offsite will be eligible for storage at ReCAP on a permanent basis remains an open question. Columbia had initially declined to offer Barnard ongoing space in the facility, as Barnard is not technically a part of Columbia. The situation is still reportedly not settled, but library staff worry that any other storage option will result in a difficult or time-consuming turnaround on requests.
And although the fate of the collection is a concern for everyone involved, it is not the only issue frustrating everyone from faculty to staff. As both current and former BLAIS librarians stressed, “The library isn’t just the books.”
“We worked very hard to get the organization to a place where there weren’t divisions,” Norberg told LJ. “We broke down a lot of silos and I think people were working incredibly well together. I would hope that dividing things, as they inevitably will be in the building, will not recreate those silos.” She went on to explain: “I think we were on the cusp of being true partners with the faculty in teaching and learning, and it was reaping some exciting rewards.”
HOPE FOR COMMON GROUND
The demolition of Lehman Hall will begin in December 2015. This fall, library faculty and staff will move into temporary quarters in Barnard’s LeFrak Gymnasium, which includes repurposed space in the former swimming pool, drained at the end of the 2012–13 school year.
The 11-story TLC, which is scheduled to open in 2018, will hold a number of labs, including a Digital Humanities Lab and a Computational Science Center; classrooms; seminar rooms; the Barnard Center for Research of Women; an office for the Athena Center for Leadership Studies; and three floors of offices for history, economics, and political science faculty, among other features. There will be study spaces, a café (yet another concern is the café’s placement over the space where the archives will be housed, putting an irreplaceable collection potentially at risk for water damage), and green spaces. Plans for the finished building and cost estimates were not available at press time.
An underlying issue persists. Many of the librarians who spoke to LJ on the subject described being left out of the decision-making process as one symptom of a pervasive lack of respect for librarians in academia. As the former BLAIS librarian said, “Stepping back from this a little bit, I don’t necessarily see this as something that’s unique to Barnard at all. For me it’s a much larger conversation about advocating for the profession.”
Still, Barnard’s librarians, staff, and faculty, both past and present, hold out hope that the Barnard administration and the BLAIS librarians can find common ground. “If the steering committee consulted and partnered with us,” one librarian said, “we could make it all happen.”
Norberg, too, is optimistic. “The administration has reacted, and I think they…have now made the process more open and more transparent, I hope,” she told LJ. “I hope ultimately that the library is more of a reflection of the staff and is better aligned with the library’s programmatic vision.” Norberg added, “I do think it’s unfortunate that this will be part of the story of this new building and the new library. It doesn’t really tell what I think is a remarkable story of how the library reinvented itself…. There were a lot of good things going on.”

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Design For New Barnard Library Revealed

Bwog

May 4, 2015

At 6 pm this evening, Barnard College held a event doubly honoring the end of its 125th academic year and revealing the design plans for the new library, to be called the Teaching and Learning Center. Major construction is to begin Winter 2015 and some of Lehman’s offices and books are already starting their move over the summer into a “swing space” to be housed in LeFrak Gym.

The new center is set to offer a wide array of new amenities, like another cafe (besides Liz’s) and a connection to Altschul Hall that will provide for more laboratory space. For more information, refer to the TLC’s own site within Barnard to see its construction timeline, architectural setup, and more.

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Will start Q4 of 2015.