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Old Posted Oct 21, 2012, 4:21 PM
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Wth is going on... I click on a NY thread and I feel like getting a birthday present every time lol.

The HY North Tower looks taller now, about 1350'. And don't get me started on the observation platform- I'm in love. Pity that the Coach tower seems (nothing's confirmed yet) to be shortened but on the other hand the residential tower got a height boost (1100' now?)!

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Hopefully the Coach is still the same height. The West side needs to muster up the greatest wall of supertalls NYC,America, or perhaps the world, have never seen before.
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Hopefully the Coach is still the same height. The West side needs to muster up the greatest wall of supertalls NYC,America, or perhaps the world, have never seen before.
While I too would prefer a supertall tower for coach, we haven't seen the tallest tower that the HY district could yield. The lot with the highest FAR (directly north from the tallest of Related's railyard tower) could yield a truly huge office tower, but there is no information on what could rise there. My guess is that the tower that will eventually be built there could be up to 1800 feet to the roof.

Also, if the Javits center gets demolished (something that might happen as soon as some time this decade assuming that a replacement convention center is built elsewhere in the city) we could get a project on the same scale as Related's current railyard project on that site.

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Old Posted Oct 23, 2012, 1:11 AM
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...131033788.html

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October 22, 2012
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Construction is set to begin on the first stage of a $15 billion city-within-a-city that aims to reshape Manhattan's desolate far West Side, kicking off the largest privately funded office development in the U.S. since the economic downturn. New York developer Related Cos. has assembled a new group of financial backers and said it plans to break ground in November on the initial 46-story office tower of the 26-acre Hudson Yards project, a sign that the dormant market for U.S. commercial development is showing early signs of life. "This will be the Rockefeller Center—the heart of the city—for the 21st century," said Stephen Ross, Related's chairman. "We are going to build a truly world-class site."

Lenders including Bank of America Corp. have tentatively committed to finance a construction loan of roughly $400 million for the initial 1.7-million-square-foot tower at the Hudson Yards site, according to real-estate executives briefed on the plans. In addition, a Middle Eastern sovereign-wealth fund agreed to invest with Related and its Canadian pension plan-backed partner, Oxford Properties Group, on the $1.2 billion building, the executives said.

Related is trying to finalize deals with its partners by year-end. The talks are far enough advanced, according to Related and others involved in the project, that the company feels comfortable starting on the first building, which it hopes to finish by 2015.

For future phases, the costs grow and the schedule may again be thrown off by the economy. Related needs to build an $800 million platform over half the rail yards for the second phase, and another platform for the third phase. Related would start the second phase if it secures a large tenant. Mr. Ross said the company is "far along" in talks with such companies. Last year, the developer struck a deal with handbag maker Coach Inc. to take office space in more than one-third of the first tower. Still, it was unclear at the time whether Related would be able to start work as planned, given that since the downturn, construction lending has been slow for all building except rental apartments.

Since then, Related and its advisers at CBRE Group Inc. have attracted more tenants. This month, the chairman of cosmetics company L'Oréal gave his blessing to a plan to move the company's Manhattan offices to the tower, said executives familiar with the decision. L'Oréal is negotiating with Related for a lease for more than 400,000 square feet. German software giant SAP AG is in talks to take more than 100,000 square feet, those executives said. Representatives of both companies declined to comment.





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That's Huge news! - Related has developed a rhythm with signing tenants.
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Damn. Sounds like Related's plan for low commercial rents is paying off so far. Hopefully they can keep the momentum going and get a big tenant for the North Tower.
     
     
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A few permits filed for 501 W. 30th Street - the Coach tower...

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=02

STRUCTURAL WORK ASSOCIATED WITH NEW BUILDING AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS FILED HEREWITH.


http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=03

MECHANICAL WORK ASSOCIATED WITH NEW BUILDING AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS FILED HEREWITH.


http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=04

SUPPORT OF EXCAVATION ASSOCIATED WITH NEW BUILDING AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS FILED HEREWITH.


http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=05

FOUNDATION WORK ASSOCIATED WITH NEW BUILDING AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS FILED HEREWITH.




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MTA: Related eyes Hudson deal tweak

By STEVE CUOZZO
October 23, 2012

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Related Cos. is trying to change the terms of its long-awaited deal with the MTA at Hudson Yards, even as the developer is closing in on a second major office lease for the first tower it plans to build. Terms call for Related to close first on a deal with the MTA for the eastern yard — between 10th and 11th avenues — followed by closing on the western portion one year later.

But while Related and financial partner Oxford Properties Group can do preliminary excavation at the site, they can’t actually start building until the MTA lease is signed. Yesterday, Related officials, who didn’t wish to be named, said they hoped to wrap it up by year’s end, while denying they wanted to change financial or contractual terms.

Meanwhile, sources said German multinational software giant SAP is in advanced talks for a large block of space at the Coach tower. It would be a second major leasing milestone for the Kohn Pedersen Fox-designed skyscraper.

SAP last summer overtook Siemens as Germany’s most valuable publicly traded company, with a $75 billion market valuation. Sources said Related and SAP are moving toward a term sheet, an agreement on major economic terms that usually, but not always, results in a signed lease. SAP would have less than Coach’s 750,000-square-foot share of the 1.7-million-square-foot tower. But it would be a significant lease of several hundred thousand square feet, sources said.
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Resized more renderings, taken from...

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Why do they keep presenting the south tower with 2 different heights?
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These two do a nice little dance from every angle. They put some thought in to this.
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Are those wave-patterns between the glass panels, or are they in a honeycomb pattern? I can't tell. Or maybe I'm blind.
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This might end up being the coolest part of the High Line
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Does anyone else find this portion a little architecturally noisy (excluding the High Line)?
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Since then, Related and its advisers at CBRE Group Inc. have attracted more tenants. This month, the chairman of cosmetics company L'Oréal gave his blessing to a plan to move the company's Manhattan offices to the tower, said executives familiar with the decision. L'Oréal is negotiating with Related for a lease for more than 400,000 square feet. German software giant SAP AG is in talks to take more than 100,000 square feet, those executives said. Representatives of both companies declined to comment.
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So L'oreal would go as an anchor for the North Tower, or only would fill the South one?
     
     
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I assume they'll go in the South Tower, Coach is only leasing 750K sf of the 1.7M sf of the building so plenty of room.
     
     
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Why do they keep presenting the south tower with 2 different heights?
The Coach tower will be roughly 800 ft or more. Building height on building permits is listed at 565 ft.



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Stars align for Related, Coach, Hudson Yards

By Daniel Geiger
October 23, 2012

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The Related Cos. reached a preliminary agreement in recent days to receive about $400 million in construction financing for a new office tower it is planning to build on the West Side rail yards, according to sources.

The lenders include Bank of America Corp. and JPMorgan Chase & Co., the sources said. The loan is seen as the last hurdle in beginning the 1.7 million-square-foot skyscraper, which is projected to cost about $1.2 billion and will kick off development at the 26-acre rail yards site known as Hudson Yards. Related is planning to build about $15 billion of mixed-use development there over the next decade.

Coach's half-billion-dollar contribution to the project was why Related and its equity partners in the building, Oxford Properties and an unnamed United Arab Emirates sovereign wealth fund, need only $400 million in financing to break ground on the building, which will sit at the corner of 10th Avenue and West 30th Street. Related says the building's address will be 501 W. 30th St., although a Coach representative says it has yet to be finalized.

Related has scrambled to begin the building after Coach placed a year-end ultimatum on the developer, according to a source with knowledge of the various players. Now, Related is said to be talking to other tenants to take hundreds of thousands of square feet of space in the office tower, including the cosmetics company L'Oreal and German technology giant SAP.
I wonder if the difference in heights given is directly related to the signing of tenants. They had to get the tower built for Coach one way or another.
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Another Notch in His Belt at Coach




By MICHAEL SCHULMAN
October 24, 2012

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TAKE a deep breath at the rail yards on the West Side of Manhattan. If you don’t smell leather, you’re not thinking like Reed Krakoff. Mr. Krakoff is the president and executive creative director of Coach Inc., and has been credited with leading the leather-goods brand from functionality to fashionability. Now, he’s shepherding the bag-and-wallet behemoth to its future home at Hudson Yards, the multibillion-dollar real estate Shangri-La scheduled to break ground this fall.

“It is a rarity for a brand, a city and an architectural project to come together,” Mr. Krakoff said the other day, dressed in his trademark chunky glasses and Turnbull & Asser button-down shirt. He was standing in a conference room cluttered with paper models at Kohn Pedersen Fox, the architectural firm that is leading the design of the Coach tower. But that’s not to say that Mr. Krakoff is not involved in every minute design decision, down to the oak floors that will be transferred to the new building from Coach’s original factory space, on West 34th Street. For more than a year, Mr. Krakoff and an in-house architect at Coach, Louis Minuto, have been meeting with William Pedersen, a principal at the renowned architecture firm, tailoring the building to Coach’s needs. Though Mr. Krakoff and Mr. Pedersen have contrasting personalities (detached aesthete versus nutty professor), their visions for the tower intertwine.

But it wasn’t always so. The first meeting last summer was “rough,” Mr. Krakoff said. From the nervous laughter of the architects nearby, that was clearly an understatement. “It was in no way critical of the architecture,” he clarified. “It just wasn’t our architecture.”

“If it’s fair to say, you had a concern about being in a large, anonymous office building,” said Mr. Pedersen, who had just been showing him the latest renderings. What Mr. Krakoff craved was a campus, and an “openness” that could bleed out into the city. In other words, Coach’s headquarters shouldn’t look like a bank’s.


After that infamous meeting, as Mr. Pedersen termed it, Mr. Krakoff invited him, Mr. Minuto and Marianne Kwok, the tower’s senior designer, to his East Hampton estate, once a summer home of the Bouvier family. His wife, Delphine Krakoff, made them lunch: steak, tomato salad, and corn on the cob. “We got to talking about our backgrounds,” Mr. Krakoff recalled. “We all actually grew up playing hockey.” Mr. Pedersen had played at the University of Minnesota with Herb Brooks, who went on to become an Olympic coach. Ms. Kwok never played, but, she said, “I grew up in Canada, so I understood.”

The result was better communication and a rejiggered design, including the addition of a glass atrium that could function as a social hub. “It broke the scale down,” Mr. Krakoff said, meaning that it would help to link the 46-story skyscraper with the pedestrians below. The architects also tied the tower more closely with the High Line. An offshoot of the former railway, the 10th Avenue Spur, will run alongside the lobby beneath a glass veil, where pedestrians can gawk at Coach employees heading to and from work.

Mr. Krakoff also oversees the design of several dozen Coach stores a year. “Most stores we work on are renovations,” he said. The tower was an opportunity to create something from scratch, which was a challenge he clearly relished.
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Related's Hudson Yard Brochure http://www.related.com/HudsonYards/i...20Brochure.pdf
North Tower 1337 feet, 67 stories
Coach Tower 876 feet, 46 stories

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^ Nice illustration.

I'm so happy that the North Tower is a true 1300 footer now. New York is going to have at least five towers exceeding 400m by decade's end:
1WTC, 2WTC, HY North, 432 Park and 225 W 57th St. Exciting times.
     
     
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I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. I really hope it is actually built by 2017 with the current design. I wish it was the first tower to be constructed. Regardless, its hard not to be insanely excited about all these proposals!!
     
     
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