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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 8:59 PM
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The deal was designed not to be voted on since it is funded through an existing tax and did not make any tax changes.

“The action of the council was an administrative, non-referable act, and the courts will ultimately decide,” said Jordan Rose, a Scottsdale attorney who represents the Suns.
What a bunch of idiots; this has to be the longest of shots, primarily from a legal standpoint.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 9:58 PM
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The tourist tax was quite simply invented to pay for stadiums, if anyone's trying to use the money for the wrong purpose it's the idiots pushing for it to be used for schools and public safety.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 10:54 PM
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The tourist tax was quite simply invented to pay for stadiums, if anyone's trying to use the money for the wrong purpose it's the idiots pushing for it to be used for schools and public safety.
If these folks want to take care of anything, like schools or public safety, get THAT log rolling. They just want to dismantle what they can by pretending to care for something...anything and then pocketing the difference. These referenda are actually tough to get passed in the first place, and trashing them should be a similarly heavy lift.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 8:47 PM
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I am starting a new group "Four Lanes or No Arena!"

I do think it's time to end the excessive corporate welfare schemes.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 10:56 PM
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I am starting a new group "Four Lanes or No Arena!"

I do think it's time to end the excessive corporate welfare schemes.
Agreed. Let's stop subsidizing fossil fuel interests, car dealerships, and suburban developers. It's time.
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Agreed. Let's stop subsidizing fossil fuel interests, car dealerships, and suburban developers. It's time.
While we are at it, let's kill all GPLET incentives and retro-actively negate all past awarded GPLETs as well. It's time.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2019, 5:01 PM
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no referendum on the arena deal

"After careful consideration and long conversations with my clients, we have decided to pull the plug on our petition effort to refer the Phoenix Suns arena deal to the ballot,"

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ng/2772188002/
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2019, 5:16 PM
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"After careful consideration and long conversations with my clients, we have decided to pull the plug on our petition effort to refer the Phoenix Suns arena deal to the ballot,"

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ng/2772188002/
Great news!! Hopefully the anti-light rail effort is next...
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"After careful consideration and long conversations with my clients, we have decided to pull the plug on our petition effort to refer the Phoenix Suns arena deal to the ballot,"

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ng/2772188002/
Smart move for them to drop this. They knew they would lose this battle and waste money and time.

Now if Building a Better Phoenix would just stop their nonsense.
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Great news!! Hopefully the anti-light rail effort is next...
Please! Don't talk about anti-light rail. Please stay on topics.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 3:46 PM
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Please! Don't talk about anti-light rail. Please stay on topics.
Word. That has its own thread.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2019, 3:44 AM
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Word. That has its own thread.
Yes, here's a thread.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...23666&page=321
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2019, 6:37 PM
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D-Backs said Chase Field badly needs repairs, but have made almost none since taking over

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...MWLeqybxABRhnQ
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Rental-car tax that supports sports facilities is legal, Arizona Supreme Court says

Well this is great news!! I think it's pretty safe to say this funding mechanism has done wonders for greater Phoenix area...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ys/2980418002/
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The decision is a victory for the Arizona Sports and Tourism Authority and the Arizona Department of Revenue against rental-car companies that fought the tax or surcharge.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2019, 10:57 PM
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Well this is great news!! I think it's pretty safe to say this funding mechanism has done wonders for greater Phoenix area...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ys/2980418002/
And I feel that it should be. People that are renting cars here are most likely going to be tourists, in which a good chunk of them will probably do touristy things....like go to a basketball game. They don't live in Arizona and this kind of tax should go toward the amenities that support tourism which makes more money in the long term for Arizona. I am glad this was upheld by the court.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2019, 10:04 PM
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D-Backs don't feel 'urge' to begin talks for new stadium

Not sure what to think of this but they are at least they are exploring the possibility of retrofitting Chase Field and re-visioning some of the land around the ballpark

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ow/2957273002/
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Retrofitting Chase Field also would take a good chunk of time, especially if the team decides to blow out walls or seats, Hall said.

"How are you going to do it so it doesn't impact the season?" he said. "There are a lot of challenges and a lot of time involved with anything we decide to do."

Retrofitting Chase Field would mean building on a smaller plot of land, Hall said. But there could be limited room to grow.

"There's some land west, south, a little bit north," he said, including a parking garage the team shares with the Phoenix Suns, a plaza by Game 7 Grill and a strip in front of Mountainside Fitness. "There's been some designs that have been shown to us to incorporate the land around the 25 acres. It only goes out another 10 to 15 acres. ... We haven't inquired with the city or any owners for what the plans are for any buildings or lots."
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2019, 2:46 AM
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Not sure what to think of this but they are at least they are exploring the possibility of retrofitting Chase Field and re-visioning some of the land around the ballpark

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ow/2957273002/
I noticed they mentioned that something similar to “The Battery Atlanta” is an ideal option. In a previous post I wrote about “The Battery” Apartments adjacent to Chase Field being in the works. I wonder if this a coincidence or not...I must investigate.

Also, here is a picture of the Battery Atlanta which looks awesome!
http://www.wakefieldbeasley.com/work...ark-mixed-use/
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Sports, entertainment corridors driving Valley development, experts say

A little about how Cactus League is impacting development around the region. Thought I would post it here since it primarily focuses on spring training facilities.

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Increased activity around spring training fields helps drive development in those areas

By Corina Vanek – Reporter, Phoenix Business Journal
Mar 22, 2019, 2:19pm MST
The throngs of fans who attend spring training baseball games in the Valley generate hundred of millions of dollars in economic impact but may also be influencing future development of “entertainment corridors” in areas around some Cactus League fields.

Aaron Studebaker, community development project manager for the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community, said Friday the addition in 2010 of Salt River Fields at Talking Stick, the spring training facility for the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Colorado Rockies, was a “heartbeat” added to the community’s entertainment district.

Studebaker and other tourism and development leaders spoke on tourism’s effects at a panel discussion hosted by the Valley Partnership.

“It puts a new spin on interest in the community,” Studebaker said of the complex’s 500,000 annual visitors, who attend baseball games as well as other events hosted at the stadium throughout the year.

Since Salt River Fields opened, the nearby shopping center, Pavilions at Talking Stick, has filled with retail tenants, with new pads under construction, he said. Other entertainment-oriented businesses, like Great Wolf Lodge, a hotel and water park, and Medieval Times, a dinner theater that includes a jousting show, have chosen the reservation for their first Arizona locations.

While the proximity to Peoria Sport Complex likely was not the only deciding factor for Opus Group when it chose to develop P83, a 10-building apartment complex in Peoria near Bell Road and 83rd Avenue, Brett Hopper, senior vice president of Opus, said the company looks for distinguishing characteristics of the areas where it chooses to build. The development is part of an entertainment district designated by the city of Peoria.

“The sports complex spawned all sorts of development around it,” Hopper said of the spring training facility for the San Diego Padres and Seattle Mariners. “This is destination-oriented.”

In 2018, total attendance for the Cactus League games was 1.77 million, down from a record of 1.91 million set in 2017. League officials expect attendance to dip again this season with fewer games scheduled than in 2018.
Source: https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...ng-valley.html
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2019, 1:27 AM
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Not sure what to think of this but they are at least they are exploring the possibility of retrofitting Chase Field and re-visioning some of the land around the ballpark

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ow/2957273002/
Hmmm. I think they looking a new stadium by outside downtown Phoenix. I think it will be at Loop 101 East or further west. That's my guess.
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