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Old Posted Nov 3, 2015, 3:34 AM
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What? The NDP collapse happened in 2000, not the 1990s. The NDP did very well provincially in the 1990s.
BC federal election results for NDP:

1993 - 15.5% - 2 seats;
1997 - 18.3% - 3 seats;
2000 - 11.3% - 2 seats;

BTW, the BC NDP gov't of the 1990's was "under siege" in BC. Here is just a synopsis of the first part to late, 1995. Got much worse after that. Was brutal here in BC.

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...court-resigns/

Again, the NDP brand was so badly damaged in BC that, by the 1993 fed election, the fed NDP in BC was also majorly impacted - basically collapsed over 1988 fed results. Forget about the rural Reform seats for a moment. Hard-core, long-time urban NDP federal BC seats such as Vancouver East and Vancouver Kingsway also fell to the fed Liberals in 1993 after decades.
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1993 was of course a disaster for the federal NDP. In Ontario, Bob Rae's government was extremely unpopular and there no NDP MPs elected in Ontario. In BC, in addition to the unpopularity of the provincial government, another issue was the Charlottetown Accord, which was massively rejected in the province. The NDP's support for it made it seem like another "establishment" party. Had they picked the populist Dave Barrett as leader instead of the very weak Audrey McLaughlin, they might have held onto several BC seats.
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Had they picked the populist Dave Barrett as leader instead of the very weak Audrey McLaughlin, they might have held onto several BC seats.
Highly doubtful. Both the ONDP as well as the BC NDP gov'ts were EXTREMELY unpopular at that time back in 1993.

So much so that even Dave Barrett, then NDP MP for the Greater Victoria riding of Esquimalt, suffered a major loss (-24% popular vote share) and his seat during the 1993 fed election. Yes, the NDP brand was THAT badly damaged in both ON and BC at that time.
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What's even more striking by today's standards that in the 1993 election, BC's voting patterns were more in tandem with Alberta than Saskatchewan was. Reform got 36% in BC and 27% in Saskatchewan. By 2000, however, Saskatchewan had more or less "caught up" with BC (voting 48% and 49% for the Canadian Alliance, respectively). And after that, it's clear that Saskatchewan moved to the right after 1993 while BC's embrace of Reform/Alliance was due to specific political conditions (Western alienation + a near-dead NDP). From 2004 onward, Saskatchewan has consistently been the 2nd best province for the modern Conservative Party.

In this election regionalism was barely a factor, and BC has really diverged from Alberta and Saskatchewan and massively rejected the Conservatives (and Manitoba almost voted identically to Ontario). Hard to believe BC embraced the creationist Stockwell Day 15 years ago!
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Hard to believe BC embraced the creationist Stockwell Day 15 years ago!
I think it was all about the Sea-Doo. That was 15 years ago though; now he'd have to be on a paddleboard.
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Yup, I wonder how many British Columbians mocked Americans for voting for George W. Bush then voted for the Canadian Alliance a few weeks later.
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