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BifRayRock · #**13601** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

The Garland house was actually #815 West Adams (the northeast corner of what is now signed St. James Place). 755 was the house to its east and was for many years the home of Frederick A Walton, and by 1930, his son (or stepson, depending on the source), Winsor Walton.

The Garlands were still at 815 (at right) in 1940; their real estate firm sold the Walton house next door in 1932...it appears to have been demolished within the decade.

The firm was famous for its population projections in ads; it wouldn't be until the '50s that L.A. achieved 2,250,000 inhabitants. LAT/Babcock Ancestry

I'm not sure when 815 West Adams were demolished, but it wasn't recently--its site and 755's have been part of a parking lot for years if not decades. I'm not in L.A. so can't drive by to see if anything is now being built there, though neither Google or Bing street views indicate any building activity that I can see. 755 was actually built on what was originally numbered lot 1 of St. James Park, 815 on lots 3 and 4. 825 West Adams was built on the subdivision's original lots 7, 8 and 9 and was known as the Bilicke house before Paul Tobeler's tenancy. (The Bilickes were later at #7 Berkeley Square.)

GoogleSV

Ninth and Spring - The Garland Building.

Questions . . . questions . . .

Curious about this building's bedding. Not clear what it rests on, bedrocked pilings, bricks and mortar, or maybe even both. To the right in the first photograph there are white brick structures that vaguely resemble backyard incinerators. (Significance of initials "GD," graffiti?) Assembled bricks may may be preexisting supports for a predecessor structure or adjacent structure/roadbed. It looks like they did not survive by the third photo. Fourth photo shows steel beams protruding from the ground, suggesting they are anchored to . . . something.

(What did this building replace?)

July-December 1923

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belmont bob · #**13602** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 1:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Ninth and Spring - The Garland Building.

these series of construction phased photos are just great...

In the first photo the old brick pilasters were probably supported on concrete piers. By the third photo the pilasters have been removed and shoring placed along the sides to prevent caving. The steel columns would have been anchored to reinforced concrete piers which may have been 30 feet or more deep depending on the depth of bedrock.
I would presume they secured the three street exposures with a concrete retaining wall but the building supports on the adjacent brick buildings would have been independent so not to place any stress on the brick.

BifRayRock · #**13603** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 2:09 AM**

BelmontB, glad you agree! (Just wish the images were larger.)

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Originally Posted by andrew_scot

Thanks e_r! Here are some photos I snapped today on my phone's camera (my regular camera battery went missing so this is all I've got for now). Anyway, these are from inside the lobby at the Young Apartments downtown.
*sorry again for the poor quality...once I find my battery, I'll take some more*

Just inside the front door, looking right- North

Fireplace & Inglenook in lobby, North Wall

Lobby South-West corner, view from fireplace

Lobby East wall entry

North Wall marble staircase up to second floor from lobby

close-up of tile flooring

crown moldings & lighting on columns

Front facade scrolled corbels flanking either side of the front door

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Would the Young have had laundry facilities when it was built?

http://www.you-are-here.com/downtown...apartments.jpg

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Keeping with the noir?

1971

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1985

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1966 - Pat down on the Strip. (attenuated connection with A Scot's narrative

>http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2730 )

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ethereal_reality · #**13604** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 3:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Here's half of the Los Feliz Derby dome when it was a nightclub (Swingers, 1996, was partly filmed here):

http://yesteryearremembered.com/?cat=4

And the other half now:

http://la.eater.com/archives/2012/12...s_for_2013.php

Thanks tovanger2! The rafters look beautiful.
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tovangar2 · #**13605** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 4:16 AM**

I imagine the beams weren't exposed back in the Brown Derby days.
I wonder what Chase Bank has done with their half dome?

And just to digress a little further from Schaber's Cafeteria, the chickenboy.com owner, Amy Inouye, of Future Studio,
was instrumental in getting two historic rooftop signs re-lit in Highland Park / Garvanza in 2012:

The Highland Theatre sign (1924), 5604 N Figueroa (Route 66 in these parts):

http://highlandpark.wordpress.com/20...ght-bulb-sign/

The last working theater bulb sign in Los Angeles:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyd...tz/5732348991/

Video: http://highlandpark-ca.patch.com/art...#video-6128303

Manning's Coffee, 1933 (this used to be a huge multi-state business, now gone with the wind):

www.flickr.com/photos/waltarrrrr

5707 N. Figueroa (4'6" X 10') This one, neon and back-lit opal glass was moved here from the Hollywood Manning's:
(GW posted this one before http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9628)

http://www.kcet.org/socal/departures...shop-sign.html

Another Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5luGb9RFg

There's still work to be done:

5540 N Figueroa:

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5615 N Figueroa:

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5629 N Figueroa:

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Chicken Boy lives on the roof at Future Studio, 5558 N Figueroa:
(his "feet never touch the ground")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5luGb9RFg

tovangar2 · #**13606** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 5:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by sopas ej

1917, Los Angeles.

• Video Link

Thank you so much sopas ej.

Plaza Substation looked HUGE before the church and Biscailuz Building were built in the mid-20s. The Methodists bought and demolished the Olvera Adobe in 1916 and first built some one-story buildings. I guess that's what shown here:

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e_r: "A Chase Bank branch took over the domed portion (actually Chase and the restauant each have half) of the former Derby, preserving the arching wooden ceiling that was a key element of a primitive air conditioning system that allowed water to drip down the sides of the dome and cool the room." (!)
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...sold--20120817

The former 24-hour Derby "Car Cafe" drive-in space. Everybody sure looks glum:

http://tastertotsla.com/2012/09/11/m...z-los-angeles/

LOL, compare this rendering with the previously-posted elevation:

eBay

And one more nod to Willard's Los Feliz:

eBay

Were there just two Willard's? Hillhurst & Los Feliz and Pico & Beverwil (the "top o' the hill" one)?

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Flyingwedge · #**13607** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 9:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This view is looking north across 7th Street on Union Ave. In the distance is the massive President Hotel and Apts. (built in 1928 and designed by architect C. Waldo Powers)

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like the Charleston, it still sports an impressive vintage sign. (I would have preferred a rooftop sign

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The sign is vintage, but apparently not original:

USC Digital - http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../rec/22/rec/22

USC dates the photo to no later than 1929, but looking at the cars (including one I cropped out on the right), I think 1933 would be closer. The LA
County Assessor seems to indicate The President was remodeled in 1935; perhaps that's when the sign was added. It looks like they redid the
entrance, too (compare with GSV):

rick m · #**13608** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 1:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

The sign is vintage, but apparently not original:

USC Digital - http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../rec/22/rec/22

USC dates the photo to no later than 1929, but looking at the cars (including one I cropped out on the right), I think 1933 would be closer. The LA
County Assessor seems to indicate The President was remodeled in 1935; perhaps that's when the sign was added. It looks like they redid the
entrance, too (compare with GSV):

A lovely 90 yr old Eunice (still a saleslady at StudioCity celebrity stationers) in the middle 1970s told me of accompanying mother there for it's Jurgensen's type "fancy grocery" experience. Even earlier she rememberd arriving in a buggy to get produce at an open air place at corner of 9th and Figueroa --I'd mentioned being in the Young building to shop at Andrew's Industrial Hardware that same afternoon when she gave me it's original glory story--

BifRayRock · #**13609** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 3:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Godzilla

How many Grand Openings is allowed? Undated Grand "Re-Re" Opening Merlo's Market at 7919 Beverly Blvd. "Repeated by public demand!"(?) Many will know this building as it is virtually next door to the Fairfax Theater (separated by an alleyway). This store remained as a market until 1980 when it became "Shoe Pavilion." Shoe Pavilion lasted for 28 years. In approximately 2010 it became a Goodwill. The corner of the building to the left of the Farifax theater in "relatively" recent image.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1704

google

Previously posted images seem to have evaporated. If this is duplication, sorry.

In bottom photo notice the tower's top seems to be adorned with a glass globe, or some sort of spherical framework. Expect it may have been illuminated. Reminds me of a plasma ball popular in the '80s. In later images, e.g., first photo, the globe was replaced by the more typical metal orb.

http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1312825062

The way things were in '32, evidently before Merlo's (to the west - or left).

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Hollywood Graham · #**13610** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 4:24 PM**

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FlyingWedge, The Chevrolet in front of the entrance is a 1936.

Hollywood Graham · #**13611** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 4:25 PM**

The 1936 Chev. is a nice car but the 1935 was neater as it was the only year they had Suicide front doors, just my opinion.

ethereal_reality · #**13612** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 4:48 PM**

I've never noticed the 'bubble' thingy atop the pylon. I'm with you BRR, I wonder how it was illuminated?

originally posted by BifRayRock
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ethereal_reality · #**13613** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 4:51 PM**

ebay

There was no information with this snapshot. Does anyone recognize Evelyn's house?
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ethereal_reality · #**13614** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 4:58 PM**

Los Angeles Herald 1898
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MichaelRyerson · #**13615** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 5:06 PM**

Broadway, Southern California, 1925

I can still hear how the pneumatic tubes sounded in the Sears, Roebuck on Santa Monica Boulevard just west of Western Avenue, my old stomping grounds.

USC digital archive/Dick Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987

BifRayRock · #**13616** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 5:45 PM**

Bullocks - Hill Street, near Seventh Street - The 1924 Extension.

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BifRayRock · #**13617** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 5:47 PM**

Bullocks at Hill and Seventh Streets? Always had a problem placing the beautiful Bullocks wall-sized ad (see pic no. 1 below) . Figured it out.

Harold Lloyd with Bullocks in the background>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_lQ_cWGzUg

'37 - contemporary

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1928 - Bullocks. Seventh and Hill - the Addition.

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BifRayRock · #**13618** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 5:48 PM**

google

Prior post included some of Mid-Wilshire's residences pre-Bullocks Wilshire's birth in 1929 (fragmented for some) >
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13109

Gestation and birth at 3050 Wilshire Boulevard, circa 1929.

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MichaelRyerson · #**13619** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 5:55 PM**

Chevrolet automobile (odd advertising shots), Dick Whittington, 1925

Those retaining walls don't look like they're going to last...

USC digital archive/Dick Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987

agakhan61 · #**13620** Posted **Mar 30, 2013, 6:15 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Previously posted images seem to have evaporated. If this is duplication, sorry.

In bottom photo notice the tower's top seems to be adorned with a glass globe, or some sort of spherical framework. Expect it may have been illuminated. Reminds me of a plasma ball popular in the '80s. In later images, e.g., first photo, the globe was replaced by the more typical metal orb.

http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1312825062

The way things were in '32, evidently before Merlo's (to the west - or left).

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...M5RUQ3YRXG.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GNQRLS7VTM.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JJAPX6C7A5.jpg

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The motion picture playing at the Fairfax is the Technicolor musical SALLY, released 12 January 1930. The photos most likely date from 1930 and not 1932. I've discovered the archives have incorrectly dated many photos, some by as much as five years.