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Old Posted Oct 18, 2023, 10:11 PM
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The new building on the Quebec side is 'Aalto 2'. Interesting...I would have thought 'O2', because it looks more like 'O' than Aalto. I think Aalto 2 might be the most architecturally meritless 21st century building in the NCR.





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Old Posted Nov 2, 2023, 9:25 PM
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New look for Block 204.



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A new 260,000 SQFT, 22 storey, purpose-built residential building with 244 new apartment units and one level of underground parking. Anticipated Start Fall 2023.
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Damn shame. I loved the previous design, the use of glass made up for its mild charcwhite-iness.
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2023, 9:58 PM
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While I was OK with the CharcWhite because it would be a contrast in that location, but this is just a perfectly classy and timeless new design as far as I'm concerned. I like the red brick and the black mullions, I don't know if we have that anywhere else. We are losing all that red brick at Terrasses, so it's nice to see all the red on the island. A splash of colour in a very grey city.
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The previous design was so much better! This is Gatineau side looking.
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The previous design was so much better! This is Gatineau side looking.
'Gatineau side looking' as in an ode to the soon to be glassed over Les Terrasses? Because this looks absolutely nothing like O and Aalto 1/2, not in massing, materials, or design...
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The new 204 block gives me Netherland architecture vibes.
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Damn shame. I loved the previous design, the use of glass made up for its mild charcwhite-iness.
I wouldn't put too much faith in that image. The design we've seen before is the design that was approved by the city and the UDRP.

Note the absence of the 9-storey podium fronting Head Street Square. Apart from the colour of the brick, this looks suspiciously like the design submitted in 2021, before the UDRP.
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I wouldn't put too much faith in that image. The design we've seen before is the design that was approved by the city and the UDRP.

Note the absence of the 9-storey podium fronting Head Street Square. Apart from the colour of the brick, this looks suspiciously like the design submitted in 2021, before the UDRP.
Gosh I hope you're right!
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Yep, if you save the image the file name has "2022-02-03" in it, so probably one of the earlier versions.
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Speaking of dates.... Lol.

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While I was OK with the CharcWhite because it would be a contrast in that location, but this is just a perfectly classy and timeless new design as far as I'm concerned. I like the red brick and the black mullions, I don't know if we have that anywhere else. We are losing all that red brick at Terrasses, so it's nice to see all the red on the island. A splash of colour in a very grey city.
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The previous design was so much better! This is Gatineau side looking.
All depends on what they use for the cladding. If they use a darker buff brick, it should be nice. If they use the very light, anemic brick of Aalto, it could look quite bad.

So far, they've nailed the designs shown on the renderings for the Ottawa side projects, but botched those for Gatineau.
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Aalto 2 has that new 'shipping container' cladding like 'THE GIANT T' buidling in Chinatown. It's so gaudy.
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Does anybody have any renderings or top down site plans that show what the plans are for the phase 2 area on the island?

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Does anybody have any renderings or top down site plans that show what the plans are for the phase 2 area on the island?

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No recent rederings. Zibi uses some old renderings from 5+ years ago for the entire project, and releases renderings for individual projects about a year before they start contruction. They don't even update the buildings proposed-u/c-built on the overall plan renderings.
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No sign of work on the site of block 204.

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The Block 204 excavation/Miwate private footprint. Makes sense they would wait until Block 206 staging is finished before the next big dig, and it looks close.

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Learning what community living is all about

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Published Nov 08, 2023 • 6 minute read



Zibi Common will be a mix of co-living units, Ottawa Community Housing units and market-rate units at the Zibi development straddling the Ottawa River. PHOTO BY SUPPLIED

The developer behind the innovative Zibi project that straddles the Ontario-Quebec border in the Ottawa River is at it again — this time introducing an unusual rental building called Common at Zibi.

It’s the first rental building on the Ottawa side for Dream Unlimited at Zibi; it’s the first time a private sector company has led the initiative to partner with Ottawa Community Housing, providing two floors of affordable housing to the non-profit; and it’s the first foray into Canada for the U.S.-based co-living company Common, which offers shared units aimed at young professionals.

All of that will create an interesting micro community in this mixed-income building.

So, just what is it?


Fully furnished co-living units will include three to five bedrooms, which are rented out individually, and shared kitchen/living space within one suite. Furniture will be sourced from companies such as EQ3, BoConcept, Article and Renwil. PHOTO BY SUPPLIED

Common at Zibi is a 25-storey rental building with 207 units on Chaudière Island, just south of Chaudière Falls, with incredible views of the falls, Parliament Hill, the Gatineau Hills, the War Museum and, of course, the Ottawa River. The ground floor will be commercial/retail, floors two to eight sit on a wide podium and are made up of the co-living units, floors nine and 10 in the tower are owned by Ottawa Community Housing, and the remaining floors are traditional apartments offered at market rates.

“It’s going to be a beautiful building in a beautiful location,” says Matthew Micksin, vice-president of real estate at Common, which saw the partnership as an ideal entry into the Canadian market. “We’re really excited about it.”

Adds Cliff Youdale, chief development officer for Ottawa Community Housing: “Clearly, they were looking at true community building as opposed to just building a building on its own accord. So, that was really encouraging.”

The integration of these types of affordable housing options is a pilot project that could be a model for future developments, says Justin Robitaille, vice-president of development for Dream Unlimited.


The view of Chaudière Falls from the 25th floor amenity space is fantastic. PHOTO BY ALLTHINGSHOME.CA PHOTOGRAPH

What is co-living?

Essentially, it’s a modern version of “what people have been doing forever, which is having roommates as a way to be able to afford to live” on their own, particularly if they’re new to a city, says Micksin. “But we’re really improving and optimizing it and providing an institutional delivery of that that makes it more convenient.”

The 48 co-living units at Common at Zibi are apartments with three to five bedrooms and shared kitchen, living room and sometimes bathrooms. Through Common, which acts as the leasing agent, a tenant simply rents a bedroom that fits their budget, the floor they’d like to be on and the view they want. The apartments come fully furnished, including dishes, and there is regular cleaning provided for the unit’s shared areas.

Common also works to create a sense of community by regularly organizing events for tenants and getting them to connect with each other. There is a Zibi-specific app to facilitate renting and to communicate any issues with a unit, but there will also be staff on site.

It’s a model that Common has been finetuning since it started in 2015 in New York City. Today, the company manages about 6,000 units across the United States, about two-thirds of which are co-living, and tenants in any Common building have access to other Common buildings in other cities.

“For us, as a developer and owner, we really appreciate (in) working with them how they look at systemizing and improving that shared housing model by really focusing on member experience and fostering true community in the home, which is obviously well-aligned with what Zibi is trying to achieve overall,” says Robitaille.

The units are aimed at young professionals who are just establishing themselves in their careers.

“It’s a really convenient offering that also helps people get the most out of their rent cheque,” says Micksin. “It’s really attractive to people moving to Ottawa who are new to the city and want to be able to land with something that they think is quality, that they trust, they don’t have to go through a process of finding their own roommates, finding their own furniture. (There are) lots of great facilities for people, it’s in a great location, the views are beautiful and you can get that at a price point that is really attractive.”

Co-living bedrooms will start in the range of about $1,200 to $1,650.

Ottawa Community Housing

Two full floors, for a total of 19 units, will be owned by Ottawa Community Housing (OCH), featuring similar layouts, sizes, features and finishes as the market-rate units and with access to all the building’s amenities.

“We saw it as a great opportunity to access some units, in a highly integrated way, in a great community, at an affordable price,” says Youdale.

The OCH units will include both one- and two-bedroom apartments (some with dens and two that are barrier-free), with rents starting at $1,347.

OCH will manage the renting of its units — the leasing process is expected to begin in December with spring move-ins — but Common will oversee maintenance and upkeep of shared spaces such as hallways. Common will also oversee leasing for the rest of the building, including the market-rate units.

Traditional apartments

Making up the upper floors of the building, the market-rate units range from studio to two bedrooms.

All units in the building will have in-suite laundry, quartz counters, stainless-steel appliances and access to all amenities and bicycle storage. Parking, which is available at a ratio of about one space per two units, is available as an extra.

Robitaille anticipates the market-rate units will appeal to a mix of tenants, from young professionals to empty nesters.

Rents for these units will begin at $1,600.


Amenities on the top floor include lounges, co-working spaces, kitchens and terraces. PHOTO BY SUPPLIED

Amenities

There are several and include a full floor of amenity space on the top floor — which means fabulous views in all directions — and dedicated amenities on the third floor.

Top-floor amenities include kitchens, lounges and meeting rooms that can be booked, a co-working space and terraces on both the east and west sides of the building.

On the third floor there’s an extensive gym, plus a huge outdoor furnished terrace with community planter boxes that overlooks Head Street Square (where community activities and events have already taken place), a kitchen, dining room, lounge, co-working space, and combined games room and movie theatre.

As well, even non-co-living residents will have access to events organized by Common to promote community connection.

Robitaille sees the amenity offering as one of the biggest appeals of the building. “This is, I think, by far the highest-quality and most generous we’ve been from an amenity offering perspective … We see those as being very well used, great places to hold more community events for residents in the building and so I think that will be a huge draw.”

But along with that, he notes, are the level of finishes, the building’s sustainability features (which include zero carbon heating and cooling) and the views. “Any which way you’re looking … you get some incredible views pretty much anywhere in that building.”

Pre-leasing for the co-living units is scheduled to begin this month with first residents expected to occupy in December. Further floors will be opened for occupancy as they are completed. The building is expected to finish construction by spring.

Robitaille is anxious for the building to officially launch to see how it is received. “But I think it’s worth being creative and exploring some of these (housing options),” he adds. “Hopefully, it pays off.”

For more information on the co-living and market-rate units, visit common.com.

For more information on the OCH units, visit OCH’s affordable housing branch, ARRIV Properties, at arriv.ca.
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$1200-$1600 for co-living?!?!?!?!?! Is that really where we are at now? I bought a 3300 sq ft house on a golf course in 2015 and my mortgage was $1400. This timeline sucks.
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$1200-$1600 for co-living?!?!?!?!?! Is that really where we are at now? I bought a 3300 sq ft house on a golf course in 2015 and my mortgage was $1400. This timeline sucks.
That my friend is an unusually cheap montage. We're paying quite a bit more for a basic mid-century bungalow within the Greenbelt we bought last year.

What's strange is that the market apartments start at $1600, which is quite cheap for the location, even if those are bachelor apartments.
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