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Old Posted Dec 16, 2018, 3:21 PM
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VIA Rail High Frequency Rail - Toronto to Quebec City

For those not aware, VIA rail has been pushing for a major upgrade of it's primary corridor in an effort to increase ridership, speeds, and reliability.

It involves building a new dedicated passenger rail corridor north of the existing corridor between Toronto & Ottawa along an abandoned rail bed, and shifting the primary corridor from Montreal to Quebec city to an underutilized corridor on the north shore of the St Lawrence.

The plan would include the option of electrification, and would improve reliability and travel times significantly. Toronto-Ottawa would go from about 4 hours today to 3 hours, with hourly or better departures.

The plan would only slightly increase the service's maximum speed from 95mph to 110mph, but would allow the trains to avoid delays from freight trains and allow it to travel that speed for the vast majority of the trip.

The Feds have already funded the full replacement of the corridor fleet for VIA, the first replacement in 35 years.

https://www.viarail.ca/en/about-via-rail/fleet-renewal

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Now, the media is expecting the feds to announce funding for the full program in the spring, in advance of the federal election next year.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...nes-following/

The program will result in a full overhaul of Canada's primary passenger rail corridor, finally bringing a modern rail service (albeit not a high speed one) to the country.

an image of the planned travel time improvements:


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Old Posted Dec 17, 2018, 11:27 PM
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About time this happened. I'm going to guess they end up with Siemens single-level sets sort of like what Brightline is using and Midwest Amtrak will buy?
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2018, 11:51 PM
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About time this happened. I'm going to guess they end up with Siemens single-level sets sort of like what Brightline is using and Midwest Amtrak will buy?
that's exactly what they are buying - you can see them in the youtube video I posted.
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With electrification, this is Canada's equivalent of the Northeast Corridor, ECML, or Tokaido Main Line. This is a valid step toward true HSR in the future. If/when full HSR is ever built, this line can pivot towards handling shorter trips and smaller towns on the route bypassed by the HSR.
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2018, 11:00 AM
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They really must go forward with the electrification. It'll be really sad if this ends up being a diesel powered train.
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Bombardier has developed electric battery trains that can operate up to 160 km/h and 100 km in range without the need for wires so that seems like a good tech match if you ask me...

https://www.bombardier.com/en/media/...ardiercom.html
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Old Posted Jan 7, 2019, 11:21 AM
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With electrification, this is Canada's equivalent of the Northeast Corridor, ECML, or Tokaido Main Line. This is a valid step toward true HSR in the future. If/when full HSR is ever built, this line can pivot towards handling shorter trips and smaller towns on the route bypassed by the HSR.
Surely if this isn’t built to HSR standard, it undermines the likelihood of a dedicated HSR route in future? It’s probably also a bit of a stretch to make comparisons with trunk lines like the ECML or Tōkaidō Main Line where there is massive utilisation.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2019, 5:37 PM
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Surely if this isn’t built to HSR standard, it undermines the likelihood of a dedicated HSR route in future? It’s probably also a bit of a stretch to make comparisons with trunk lines like the ECML or Tōkaidō Main Line where there is massive utilisation.
We can't wait forever for the enormous HSR funding. At this point, rail that significantly speeds up service will be welcome. Because most of the line will be owned by VIA Rail, the possibility of upgrades is actually enhanced. The current use of freight rail lines will never lead to HSR.

As it stands, a substantial amount of track into and out of Ottawa is now owned by VIA rail and already significant rail improvements have been made to those tracks. Improvement to the Lakeshore freight route that is shared by VIA has produced no benefit to passenger service. If anything, despite the improvements to the track, service is worse.

The key to improving passenger service between Quebec City and Toronto is to have most of the track owned by VIA.

Nevertheless, I will only believe this level of improvement once the funding is in place and construction begins. I remain a skeptic that this will ever happen.
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