Paradox Hotel and Residences | 188m | 67 Fl | Completed

[Hed Kandi]

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[djh]

Originally Posted by mr.x2

by skymaster

NO VIEWS!

If you're on any of the hotel floors you'll have no view to the North (towers across alley), no view to the East (adjacent tower on block), little view to the South (Shangri-La is directly across the street) and no view to the West (adjacent tower on the block). I hope the people on the higher floors get to see above all of those nearby towers.

[officedweller]

The same pretty much goes for Shangri-La too (moreso when the Bentall office tower goes up on the SportMart site). The Ritz-Carlton will have some view to the south over the Shangri-La podium (into the Carmana Tower).
If the Amacon office tower goes ahead on Melville - that'll be bad for the condo oweners too - you can see the site poking between buildings at the top of the pic.
The townhouse owners at Orca Place will have something better to look at.

[Lee_Haber8]

Originally Posted by djh

NO VIEWS!

If you're on any of the hotel floors you'll have no view to the North (towers across alley), no view to the East (adjacent tower on block), little view to the South (Shangri-La is directly across the street) and no view to the West (adjacent tower on the block). I hope the people on the higher floors get to see above all of those nearby towers.

At least they get a great view of a vibrant urban landscape, something people from Winnipeg don't have

[nathan6969]

Looks like the party tomorrow night is gonna be big, drove by the sales centre today, and they were setting up tents outside, and they'd taken down a lot of that blue covering over the windows.

[jlousa]

If you have an invite you might want to check it out.

[jlousa]

The event last night was really busy, a great turnout. A little too good, the firecheif visited and left very upset with the amount of people there. Anyways I couldn't say earlier but I did hint to show up, Diana Krall was there, she only ending up playing for about 20 minutes though, the crowd was too noisy chattering and I think she got upset about that. The speech by Mark from the Ritz-Carlton chain was very impressive as well. Not to mention the free Don Perignon and catering by Joe Fortes.

[MolsonExport]

Great building for Vancouver. Finally, some decent height in the city!

[nathan6969]

Originally Posted by jlousa

The event last night was really busy, a great turnout. A little too good, the firecheif visited and left very upset with the amount of people there. Anyways I couldn't say earlier but I did hint to show up, Diana Krall was there, she only ending up playing for about 20 minutes though, the crowd was too noisy chattering and I think she got upset about that. The speech by Mark from the Ritz-Carlton chain was very impressive as well. Not to mention the free Don Perignon and catering by Joe Fortes.

Serious...I can't believe I skipped all that, I just expected a few people looking at some floorplans and a model.

[LeftCoaster]

heres a pic of Ritz I dont think has been uploaded yet... nothing new just a night version of what we have already seen.



Looks like there might be some night effect at the crown, although I sure hope they have a little more instore than that. Shangri-La is also noticable absent from the right hand side of the pic.

[djh]

When the Shangri-La was at development permit stage the developers had to offer up soeme mighty huge appeasements to the city to allow the height and massing they wanted. As I remember it, they had to restore the church next door and plant a huge number of trees locally.

Since the Ritz-Carlton is nearly the same height as Shangri-La, what was the gift that they gave to the city to allow their building? I remember there was talk of a public observation tower, but that got killed long ago. So what do we get?

[androo3]

I like how they leave out the Shangri La in those pictures. Nice

[bbeliko]

By far the best project in downtown

[djh]

Originally Posted by djh

When the Shangri-La was at development permit stage the developers had to offer up soeme mighty huge appeasements to the city to allow the height and massing they wanted. As I remember it, they had to restore the church next door and plant a huge number of trees locally.

Since the Ritz-Carlton is nearly the same height as Shangri-La, what was the gift that they gave to the city to allow their building? I remember there was talk of a public observation tower, but that got killed long ago. So what do we get?

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[98fb]

this blows away shangra la.


I agree best towner in Van to date. This will be a beauty, just wish it was taller. LOVE IT. Finally a great tower in Van.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by djh

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I can't recall - was the density for the site transferred from the Woodward's project? If it was, that probably means no "perk" was required to be granted to the City for a "gift" of extra density.

The higher building guidelines require architectural excellence, which this clearly satisfies.

[Canadian Mind]

Wouldn't Woodwards have needed it's own density bonus?

[jlousa]

Woodwards didn't need any bonus transfers as they didn't use up all the density allotted to them. They did overstep the height limit on tower W-43 by 6ft but they left some density on the table to transfer to another site in the future.

[officedweller]

Dug up the rezoning reports for 1133.

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/...H3complete.pdf

The original 2005 rezoning contemplated an enclosed Palm Court as a public amenity along with a mid-block connection past the federal office building across the alley. City staff subsequently decided that the Palm Court would cost too much to program and maintain so it was converted to hotel function space.

A rezoning amendment dated 2006 indicates that Holborn provided amenity benefits to the City worth $12.5M.

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/...uments/ph4.pdf

Remember that a lot of the Shangri-La amenity items were due to Westbank's desire to do so.

[Hed Kandi]

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