1045 Haro Street | 177m | 55 fl | Proposed

[whatnext]

Yay, let's celebrate the loss of more afforable home ownership options downtown. But we're gaining so much more, a glassy, glossy wealth-stasher for the global elite with a few rental crumbs for the (well-paid) working plebes thrown in.

[city guy]

who are the architects?

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Preemptive reminder that we have a viewcone complaint thread here.

Since this project is directly challenging a view cone and shadowing policies I think it will be impossible not to include them in this project’s discussion.

[officedweller]

Ultimately, I think they'll end up with a slab - hopefully better designed than this tower.
Without redevelopment of the Sutton PLace Hotel, I don't think a plaza / pedestrian connection would be very successful since it is hidden from Burrard Street.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Yay, let's celebrate the loss of more afforable home ownership options downtown. But we're gaining so much more, a glassy, glossy wealth-stasher for the global elite with a few rental crumbs for the (well-paid) working plebes thrown in.

That ship sailed long ago. The strata sold out for $165m in 2018.

[city guy]

who are the architects?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Changing City

That ship sailed long ago. The strata sold out for $165m in 2018.

Awesome, even more of a typical story: random group of homeowners wins the Vision Vancouver rezoning lottery! Developer pays ridiculous amount assuring even more homes for the wealthy.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Since this project is directly challenging a view cone and shadowing policies I think it will be impossible not to include them in this project’s discussion.

Fair enough. Just keeping in mind that such inclusion tends to... overshadow the actual project.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Developer pays ridiculous amount assuring even more homes for the wealthy.

That's where certainty over height restrictions (rather than conflicting policies) would better guide assessments and land prices.

[TheTerminalCity]

Originally Posted by city guy

who are the architects?

Appears to be Patkau Architects

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by giallo

I really want to like this, but judging from the single rendering, I'm not a huge fan. It looks messy for what should be a sleek tower. The endoskeleton look of the building does it no favours; the balconies, the weird stairway crown, the odd vertical lines/spandrel running down the tower. It's exposing its blemishes rather than covering them up. This tower needs reflective glass to work.

Yes, yes and yes. Upon looking at more renders, the tower is indeed a "geek" all awkward and mladroit lines. Change it, please, before it becopes an alien presence on the skyline.

[Canucks223]

I want to like it, but the kink in the tower is just a little much and not really in a good way. Like others pointed out, I'd need to see more renderings from different angles for a true opinion. I like the height and how sleek it is though. If it was straightened out it would be nice.

[officedweller]

The main concern I have is that for a sleek tower, the details count and I suspect that the glass will not live up to the design - simply because a shear glass wall like that facing south will be hit with all sorts of LEED requirements to block solar gain (think The Charleson or The Mark).

Other towers incorporate the sunshading through fanciful designs with sun shading louvres, perforated panels, wraparound balconies, etc.

Even the dark glass south facade of Grosvenor's Pacific has a lot of spandrel panel to reduce solar gain.

[Zepfancouver]

Originally Posted by city guy

who are the architects?

https://patkau.ca/projects/
UrbanYVR article today

In December 2009 I was making a choice of a purchase (mortgage), a one bedroom at 1045 Haro ($275,000) or my current resident Anchor Point.
Haro street with 160 units sold for $164,750,000, my estimate at around $1800 a sq/ft...It could have been a good deal for me.

[Galaxy]

Not bad but needs a little work. Would love to see a building with an exoskeleton and maybe a different color glass other than the typical color most towers use here in our fair city. That Kink won't last but maybe punch a hole thru the building to keep the views and heck turn it into some sort of open space or something. Love the shorter tower portion but maybe make it more like a mini version of the larger town next door or just make it look totally different.... I'm sure it will go thru many more revisions in the future. That location is a great spot though and I am certainly looking forward to seeing this develop.

[officedweller]

Is this absurd or what?


https://32a69543-815b-406f-99d0-1d7d...85bfbcd9e9.pdf

BTW - They show the view cone corridor from the wrong angle.
The upper floors of the Trump Tower "lean back" out of the view cone.
So on the proper view cone corridor, the upper floors of Trump Tower should line up with the diagonal facade of Shangri-La.
The upper floors of Trump Tower should be hidden behind Shangri-La.
The viewer should be farther to the east (right) than as depicted.

[jollyburger]

I like the "We are preserving the view of the Lions" slide

[giallo]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I like the "We are preserving the view of the Lions" slide

Those boat masts need to be reduced by 67% in order to see the Lions from that exact location. City council is slacking. Get on it, COV!

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Is this absurd or what?


https://32a69543-815b-406f-99d0-1d7d...85bfbcd9e9.pdf

That would be hilarious if they wouldn't be 100% seriously at it.

I don't understand how the shadowing rules work. A building this tall (and many others) are sure to shadow Robson a lot. Is it based on an exact time on an exact date or how does it work?

[BobLoblawsLawBlog]

Can lobbyists like do their job to abolish view cones. This is getting ridiculous.