Jericho Lands | 49fl | Proposed

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Looks like they approved it

EDIT: https://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/j...-jan-2024.aspx

Yep, this major step is done. A unanimous vote of support, with a couple minor amendments to explore creating more affordable housing.

Dominato, Fry, and Zhou used particularly strong language in their reasons for support.

Next up, an official development plan will need to be approved, which is expected to reach city council next year.

[SpongeG]

great news, glad to see it get the go-ahead.

[Newcastle Kid]

Great news!

[a very long weekend]

Congratulations. Could still use a lot more density, but definitely noteworthy.

I wonder if this has any effect on the UBC rail extension.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by a very long weekend

Congratulations. Could still use a lot more density, but definitely noteworthy.

I wonder if this has any effect on the UBC rail extension.

Well it could only add a positive push for it to be built, that’s for sure.

[vanman]

I'm sure the nimbys now realize that if they can kill the UBC extension they can stop much of the density planned for the Jericho Lands. The stakes are higher for both sides now.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

Yep, this major step is done. A unanimous vote of support, with a couple minor amendments to explore creating more affordable housing.

Dominato, Fry, and Zhou used particularly strong language in their reasons for support.

Next up, an official development plan will need to be approved, which is expected to reach city council next year.

Can people stop calling ABC NIMBYs now? They have their issues but please get the story straight.

[Newcastle Kid]

I wrote in in support of this project, and received a response from council. Something I found interesting:

Following Council’s approval of the Policy Statement, staff will prepare the Official Development Plan for the future redevelopment of the site, which will take place in phases over the next 25-30 years. In parallel, staff will also begin working with the landowners on the rezoning of the first phase of development.

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, they won't be waiting for the official development plan before they start the rezoning process, and they'll be kicking that off very soon.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Newcastle Kid

I wrote in in support of this project, and received a response from council. Something I found interesting:

Following Council’s approval of the Policy Statement, staff will prepare the Official Development Plan for the future redevelopment of the site, which will take place in phases over the next 25-30 years. In parallel, staff will also begin working with the landowners on the rezoning of the first phase of development.

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, they won't be waiting for the official development plan before they start the rezoning process, and they'll be kicking that off very soon.

I guess the Policy Statement is the basis of the Official Development Plan so they probably have enough guidance to proceed.

From a Globe & Mail article about the Jericho Lands:

Once the policy statement is approved, the first phase of rezoning will begin, including an official development plan. That plan will take about six months to complete and will also go before the council.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real...d-green-space/

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Newcastle Kid

I wrote in in support of this project, and received a response from council. Something I found interesting:

Following Council’s approval of the Policy Statement, staff will prepare the Official Development Plan for the future redevelopment of the site, which will take place in phases over the next 25-30 years. In parallel, staff will also begin working with the landowners on the rezoning of the first phase of development.

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, they won't be waiting for the official development plan before they start the rezoning process, and they'll be kicking that off very soon.

Whoa ya this seems completely different than say Heather Lands. Very... expeditious

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Whoa ya this seems completely different than say Heather Lands. Very... expeditious

Agreed. And Heather seemed much less ambitious. Anybody know what the latest is over there?

[Newcastle Kid]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I guess the Policy Statement is the basis of the Official Development Plan so they probably have enough guidance to proceed.

From a Globe & Mail article about the Jericho Lands:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real...d-green-space/

Great! I thought things would take a fair bit longer, but it seems like they're going to move quickly with Phase 1.

[SpongeG]

the one from the development side was on the radio the other day talking about the project just before the hearing and one of the things I thought was funny was he said paraphrasing here that the nimbys were using as a point that there weren't enough low-income rentals in the overall project, lol like they want poor people at all in their neighborhood.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

the one from the development side was on the radio the other day talking about the project just before the hearing and one of the things I thought was funny was he said paraphrasing here that the nimbys were using as a point that there weren't enough low-income rentals in the overall project, lol like they want poor people at all in their neighborhood.

Not to mention this group of folks reduced the size and unit count of two below-market buildings (MIRHHP) that were no taller than 6-stories!

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I guess the Policy Statement is the basis of the Official Development Plan so they probably have enough guidance to proceed.

From a Globe & Mail article about the Jericho Lands:



https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real...d-green-space/

I wouldn't be surprised to see shovels in the ground at some point in 2026, but we'll have to wait to see if time proves me right.

[svlt]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

I wouldn't be surprised to see shovels in the ground at some point in 2026, but we'll have to wait to see if time proves me right.

That would be very optimistically quick for a project of this magnitude but if the full build-out is going to take decades, better to start sooner than later.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by svlt

That would be very optimistically quick for a project of this magnitude but if the full build-out is going to take decades, better to start sooner than later.

Having the go-ahead to put shovels in the ground is one thing. Being confident enough that the UBCx will be finished around when residents would be moving in, which is needed for a development of this scale, is another.

If shovels are to be in the ground by 2026 with the first residents moving in around 2030, I suspect a UBCx announcement would have had to be made in the next year or so.

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

Having the go-ahead to put shovels in the ground is one thing. Being confident enough that the UBCx will be finished around when residents would be moving in, which is needed for a development of this scale, is another.

If shovels are to be in the ground by 2026 with the first residents moving in around 2030, I suspect a UBCx announcement would have had to be made in the next year or so.

UBC SkyTrain business case will be finished this December. If all goes well, RFQs for preliminary design could be issued by the end of 2025.

If I were the Province I would be pushing for federal commitment by 2025 the latest. I am not sure that a Poilievre government will be funding much transit at all.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by goodcitywhenfinished

UBC SkyTrain business case will be finished this December. If all goes well, RFQs for preliminary design could be issued by the end of 2025.

If I were the Province I would be pushing for federal commitment by 2025 the latest. I am not sure that a Poilievre government will be funding much transit at all.

Seems like dumping money into transit is pretty across the boards the accepted mantra. If anything they'll probably be more pro development though maybe more market based. I mean if you believe it will happen or not is another question.

During his 2022 leadership campaign, Poilievre said he would require big cities such as Toronto and Vancouver to boost housing construction by 15 per cent, or force them to face cuts to infrastructure grants, used by municipalities to fund such projects as transit systems, community services and outdoor spaces.

Tying federal dollars to housing results has become central to Poilievre’s housing pitch as official Opposition leader too.

More recently, he said a Conservative government would only support transit projects that include high-density zoning around transit stations.

https://www.vicnews.com/national-new...-stick-1717808

[csbvan]

Force municipalities to boost housing construction. Such a naive fool. You can require municipalities to rezone for more density, etc. You cannt require them to boost construction which is market dependent. Are municipalities going to force developers to build even if current market conditions make it unfeasible and unprofitable? Embarrassing