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Old Posted Aug 6, 2016, 2:17 AM
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I like this diagram.




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Old Posted Aug 6, 2016, 2:22 AM
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I really wish those renders would include the various other towers that are under construction or recently completed.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2016, 11:31 AM
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I really wish those renders would include the various other towers that are under construction or recently completed.
I agree. I'd like to see that, and a rendering using the same image that shows the impact that 80 South and 45 Broad will have.
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I agree. I'd like to see that, and a rendering using the same image that shows the impact that 80 South and 45 Broad will have.
Developers do the same thing here in San Francisco, showing their major project but not the ones that are going in around it. It's really deceptive and often annoying.
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That diagram is cool, if I calculated correctly the parapet is about 1260 feet. It's weird how it goes from floor 5 to 14 though... I guess it's taking after its bigger brother.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2016, 7:40 PM
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The floor plates are huge. I think the sheer size of Ingel's design, if it ever comes to fruition, will be the key attribute. Like 30 HY, this thing will be gargantuan.
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The floor plates are huge. I think the sheer size of Ingel's design, if it ever comes to fruition, will be the key attribute. Like 30 HY, this thing will be gargantuan.
I know it's going to be huge, not a ton shorter than tower 1 or the original WTC but it seems like it will be much wider from some angles. This and 30HY are going to be the true behemoths of the city.
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I was looking at all of the floorplans l, and the red line is the outline of the block 2 World Trade sits on, why would they build on top of Fulton Street and have the building's faces right against the streets??
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Which floorplan are you talking about exactly? Don't quite understand.
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They are not building onto fulton street, the red line does not indicate the outline of the block, but the previous general scope of Tower 2. In that bottom right corner was previously a small plaza
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2016, 2:34 PM
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^ Right, here's another look at the outlines of both versions, the street border can bee seen slightly...










The "wedge" would still be there...



















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I still really hate the base of the Ingles design.

The original WTC was intended to exude corporate power, and so it’s lack of human scale at the street-level was appropriate in prioritizing the inspiration of awe over assimilating with the pedestrian sphere. In short, it was something to behold rather than something to interact with.

The new WTC, by contrast, stands on the doorstep of a massive transportation center (the most important to be built in NYC in over a century) and a public park/memorial, in a completely different downtown that now promotes a mix of residential and retail uses--this space is now as much a place for the public to gather as it is a cathedral to capitalism. With that in mind, the public space between the PATH Station and 2 WTC just feels like a wind-swept afterthought; a real missed opportunity.

I hope that the final design incorporates some sort of articulation at the base of the façade or some other creative solution to address this. I love the way this design looks on the skyline (I actually prefer it to the Foster design), but I just can’t get over the lack of attention to the pedestrian experience.
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Patiently waiting....

Maybe we'll have an anchor tenant and construction will resume by the end of the year?
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Patiently waiting....

Maybe we'll have an anchor tenant and construction will resume by the end of the year?
If we're lucky, we may get a redesign.
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This building is growing on me. It kind of reminds me of the kind of vertical/integrated cities Corbusier would dream about.
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Like 3 WTC, this tower will be visible from inside the concourse...it will stand here.















The 2 WTC entrance/exit...lower levels of 2 WTC.



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NYguy had a great day!
I must say that until 2 WTC is built, it will continue to look like something is missing.
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no graceful simple soaring form proposed here . .
it's a blatantly simplistic awkward thing . .
the supposed gem of an inconsistent, apparently self-deluded, "bad-boy" . .
who is often brilliant . . when he's not pompously pretending to be the lauded genius . .
The Damien Hirst (also inconsistently brilliant) of the architecture world . .

Ingles grandiosely followed his inspired 57th St pyramid . .
with this humiliating amateurish high-profile spectacle . .
It looks like a stack of container boxes . . unloaded from a cargo ship . .
It's an ungracious architectural indiscretion . .
that'll degrade even the half-finished mediocrity, . .
of New York's important new World Trade Center . .
Silverstein only sees the money he's saving . .
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This is all I see when I look at the rendering. What an awkward structure.
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