Boise Development Thread - Part II

[imagine18]

Originally Posted by Architecture Buff

Sept. 23,2015
1. You can see the 1/2 basketball court on the ninth floor.



2. Clearwater and Simplot HQ getting curtain walls today (photos on their treads).

3. Just got back from Spokane. Wish Gardner's 2 hotel complex could match or better this.
The Doubletree by Hilton is 15 levels with 375 rooms surrounded by the convention buildings.
The Davenport Grand Hotel is 17 floors with 716 rooms connected by a sky bridge. (Big complaint...no pool)

Definitely agree...the Davenport looks pretty nice and would be a good fit for Gardner's lot.

[Cottonwood]

http://www.scrippsmedia.com/kivitv/n...328593491.html

Proposed deal would bring new hotel to downtown Nampa

[JustakidfromBoise]

Quick question. Does anybody know what is going up across from Maple Grove Elementary? And does anyone know if there is a grocery store planned for southwest Boise anytime in the near future?

[Hangry Smurf]

I know that 5/lake Hazel and Maple grove/lake hazel have been designated for commercial but I don't know if there are future plans for a grocery store. As a resident near there I can certainly agree that we need something more than the Paul's.
The area across from Maple Grove Elementary appears to be "MOLENAAR DIAMOND PARK SITE" as listed on the Boise Parks site. Good news.

[boisenative]

From what I've heard, I'm a big fan of CWI's downtown campus, especially if what Idaho Business Review wrote pans out. Some height over in that area would be a great catalyst for future growth.

http://idahobusinessreview.com/2015/...-boise-campus/

[OhGoodGlavin]

Originally Posted by boisenative

From what I've heard, I'm a big fan of CWI's downtown campus, especially if what Idaho Business Review wrote pans out. Some height over in that area would be a great catalyst for future growth.

http://idahobusinessreview.com/2015/...-boise-campus/

I know there's an argument that that the CWI development will permanently take that area out of commission as generating property tax revenue, and I get that. But I think having a couple thousand folks going to work and school there on a daily basis will more than make up for that, in terms of economic impact. I think it will also be a boon to Boise State having a feeder college just 15 minutes away by bike on the greenbelt. It should make it easier for students to make that transition in a more integrated way.

[Architecture Buff]

I like the idea of a urban campus with taller buildings at Main and Whitewater. It should bring restaurants and apartment buildings, as has the BSU campus. If a multipurpose sports complex (soccer/baseball) is also built, this area will really get a huge boost with maybe new hotels.

[boisecynic]

Originally Posted by OhGoodGlavin

I know there's an argument that that the CWI development will permanently take that area out of commission as generating property tax revenue, and I get that. But I think having a couple thousand folks going to work and school there on a daily basis will more than make up for that, in terms of economic impact. I think it will also be a boon to Boise State having a feeder college just 15 minutes away by bike on the greenbelt. It should make it easier for students to make that transition in a more integrated way.

Anything built there will have a great economic impact. The difference is, if it's a private development then there's the added bonus of many thousands, maybe 100s of thousands of dollars in urban renewal district revenue. Possibly even several $million.

Look at all the sidewalk work with fancy new Silva Cell tree planters downtown. If I'm not mistaken, that's not ACHD money nor city money, it's urban renewal district money. But it takes many years of property tax paying entities to accumulate that money.

I won't chain myself to a tree to prevent CWI, not that there are any trees, but having CWI in the 30th Urban Renewal District is not a step forward. It's a step sideways at best. I'm having trouble seeing how a couple thousand commuters a day could add little to the area except traffic. What's the spin off business around BSU? A lot of fast food and beer bars. It's possible a CWI could be built before any private investor comes up with a solution for that property. But 5 years ago who would have imagined the Lusk St developments?

Let's get a little more technical.

The base value of the 30th District is $84 million. It's now valued at $107 million, an increase of $23 million. It's the tax on the increase which is used within the district for urban renewal. If I'm reading it right, the district is currently generating about $225,000 a year, or roughly 1%. So a $20 million dollar investment on the Bob Rice Ford property, which isn't farfetched, means >$200,000 a year in urban renewal revenue up until the district sunsets in 2033.

Let's say we have to wait until 2023 to realize such a development and its revenue. It would mean at least $2 million for the district.

Remember, the Boise River Park and Esther Simplot Park aren't even complete yet. When those are done then outside investors with seriously deep pockets might be more willing to take a hard look at that property for something big and tall.

Further reading: http://www.ccdcboise.com/wp-content/...2016-20201.pdf

[boisecynic]

Slow SSP Week?

How about a West Downtown development synopsis:

1) Site work has begun at 12th and River on the side of the property proposed for storage units. I skimmed the CUP and can't find much info on the midrise. http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=CUP15-00006

2) Work has been going on for several weeks at the Payette Brewing building on the Pioneer Pathway block. http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=BLD15-02470

3) The David Hale project at 16th and Idaho appears to have completed utility work from the alley (gas, sewer) and from Idaho (8 separate trenches with 2 water mains each). Not sure about electric. http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=DRH15-00281

4) Two new houses going up at 28th and Madison: http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=SUB14-00051

5) Townhome development, ground broken at 28th and Pleasanton: http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...id=PUD14-00015

6) Detached sidewalk, curb strips with trees greatly improved 15th streetscape in front of Big-O between Main and Idaho

7) Last but not least: Esther Simplot Park: Finish grading at some pond banks, wetlands boardwalk being built at NE corner, this is a finish item. Dope!




12th and River rendering repost

[IdaBoi]

Originally Posted by Sawtooth

interesting texture

[Cottonwood]

It appears the Idaho Street Townhomes are to being construction soon.
Maybe the Cabana Inn should transform itself into a boutique hotel, like the hotel in the Linen District did??

http://colearchitects.net/idaho-st-townhomes/
http://colearchitects.net/wp-content...-townhomes.jpg





http://haledevelopment.com/current.html

The project is slated to start in the fall of 2015 and finished units ready for occupancy in early 2016.

and this:


http://boisecityid.iqm2.com/Citizens...86&Inline=True

DRH15-00227 / 5th & Idaho LLC – Dean Pape
Location: 503 W. Idaho Street
Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish the non-contributing property at 507 W. Idaho Street (Gibson Funeral Home) and construct a 5-story with below grade parking, mixed-use structure with ground level retail/restaurant space and 84 residential units in a C-5HD (Central Business with Historic Design Review) zone.
(This item was deferred at the June 22, 2015, July 27, 2015 and August 24, 2015 hearings).

http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...09251657569520

[OhGoodGlavin]

Originally Posted by Cottonwood

Maybe the Cabana Inn should transform itself into a boutique hotel, like the hotel in the Linen District did??

The Modern has probably the best cocktails in town. A high-falutin place to drink near the Cabana over there would be great... but it's a steep hill to climb. Wasn't someone stabbed at the Torch 2 not that long ago?

[Cottonwood]

Originally Posted by OhGoodGlavin

The Modern has probably the best cocktails in town. A high-falutin place to drink near the Cabana over there would be great... but it's a steep hill to climb. Wasn't someone stabbed at the Torch 2 not that long ago?

I don't recall, but hopefully that was an isolated incident.

http://idahobusinessreview.com/2015/...is-the-fowler/

Central Addition apartments: Forget The Roost, the real name is The Fowler

By: Teya Vitu September 30, 2015

The Roost apartment project in Boise’s Central Addition has a new name: The Fowler.

Its developer, LocalConstruct, is now waiting to see how long it takes for the name The Roost to disappear from memory of officialdom, the media and people in general for the developer’s 158-unit apartment project at Fifth and Broad streets.


Read more: http://idahobusinessreview.com/2015/...#ixzz3nESePbHD

[Architecture Buff]

5th and Idaho



From their www.facebook.com page

[Cottonwood]

Thanks for posting that Architecture Buff. I really hope this gets built.

[Cottonwood]

Originally Posted by boisenative

From what I've heard, I'm a big fan of CWI's downtown campus, especially if what Idaho Business Review wrote pans out. Some height over in that area would be a great catalyst for future growth.

http://idahobusinessreview.com/2015/...-boise-campus/

Here is the link with "fly-throughs" that shows three separate conceptual site designs.

http://www.cwiadacocampus.com/

These concepts are based on 12 Guiding Principles developed from community input:
•Open & accessible to the community
•Partnerships with local businesses
•Safe for students and public
•Adequate traffic flow and parking
•Connections to all modes of transportation
•Address future growth and flexibility
•Sustainable environmental & energy design
•Engaging indoor & outdoor spaces
•Full services & amenities on campus
•Financially responsible and affordable
•Urban character, context, and density
•Embrace the riverfront, parks & neighborhood

[SFTransplant]

Something I thought was neat, in October's issue of "Hemisphere's" Magazine (United's magazine), they have a spotlight on Idaho and, in particular, Boise. They did a good job of representing the state and its potential.

One particular interesting note is that some one was quoted saying that Boise will have 850,000 people by 2020. Does anyone here know where that projection came from? Seems awfully high (175,000 people in 5 years).

[Visualize]

Originally Posted by Cottonwood

Here is the link with "fly-throughs" that shows three separate conceptual site designs.

http://www.cwiadacocampus.com/

These renderings are awesome!! Urban redevelopment money or not, I think this project is worth its weight in gold to this neighborhood with all the potential it holds for not only students, but also the public. When looking at other projects that are along the river, this is one of the few that appears to openly invite the public as opposed to build right to the river and block itself off. I heavily favor the Vertical design, just wish it was all one giant phase of awesome.

[Boiseguy]

Originally Posted by Visualize

These renderings are awesome!! Urban redevelopment money or not, I think this project is worth its weight in gold to this neighborhood with all the potential it holds for not only students, but also the public. When looking at other projects that are along the river, this is one of the few that appears to openly invite the public as opposed to build right to the river and block itself off. I heavily favor the Vertical design, just wish it was all one giant phase of awesome.

i agree.. I heavily favor the vertical design so that more space is available for gathering.. plus if it's going to be an urban campus it needs to be URBAN… the kind of catalyst this project will be for that side of downtown is enormous...

[Cottonwood]

Looks like this area of town, where CWI will be built is the new River North Neighborhood.



https://www.facebook.com/RiverNorthBoise