The Big Atlantic Canada Statistics Thread

[Taeolas]

Thanks for those stats. The Freddy ones certainly feel right. I can't see the maps at the moment (Work blocks the source site), but the Top 5 and Bottom 5 seem right. Though I guess I never figured New Maryland was so high income.

Do you happen to have the total Median values for each city? To indicate how above/below average the Top 5 and Bottom 5 actually are?

[OliverD]

Originally Posted by Taeolas

Thanks for those stats. The Freddy ones certainly feel right. I can't see the maps at the moment (Work blocks the source site), but the Top 5 and Bottom 5 seem right. Though I guess I never figured New Maryland was so high income.

Do you happen to have the total Median values for each city? To indicate how above/below average the Top 5 and Bottom 5 actually are?

New Maryland is almost entirely families and seniors who own their own homes.

[Franco401]

Originally Posted by OliverD

New Maryland is almost entirely families and seniors who own their own homes.

The population went down in the last census with kids moving out, which has to help.

[JHikka]

Statcan Q3 Population estimates
Q3 2017 (Q2 2017)

Newfoundland 528, 817 (529,204)
PEI 152,021 (150,769)
Nova Scotia 953,869 (952,016)
New Brunswick 759,655 (758,148)

Change since Q3, 2014
NFLD +431
PEI +6,647
NS +11,660
NB +4,955

Nearly all growth is due to immigration.

[Fischbob]

New Census release yesterday! Here are a few quick stats for the Atlantic CMAs (plus Fredericton).

% Immigrants

St. John's 4.0%
Halifax 9.4%
Moncton 5.6%
Saint John 5.4%
Fredericton 8.2%


% Recent immigrants (last 5 years)

St. John's 1.3%
Halifax 2.4%
Moncton 2.0%
Saint John 1.6%
Fredericton 2.6%


% Aboriginal identity

St. John's 3.3%
Halifax 4.0%
Moncton 2.5%
Saint John 1.9%
Fredericton 4.4%


% Visible minority

St. John's 4.3%
Halifax 11.4%
Moncton 4.9%
Saint John 4.8%
Fredericton 6.5%


Rate of home ownership

St. John's 70.0%
Halifax 60.1%
Moncton 68.9%
Saint John 70.3%
Fredericton 71.0%


% Occupied dwellings requiring major repairs

St. John's 4.2%
Halifax 6.6%
Moncton 5.6%
Saint John 8.0%
Fredericton 6.7%


Median monthly shelter costs for rented dwellings

St. John's $902
Halifax $962
Moncton $803
Saint John $703
Fredericton $850

[Bishop2047]

Nice to see Freddy included in some CMA stats!

We live in Fredericton now (just moved from Saskatoon), and my wife is from Halifax. She was quite surprised at the aboriginal population percentages in both cities Halifax and Fredericton as the population is more visible in Freddy (her opinion) though the percentages are close.

Also I cant find whether the rental costs include those that have utilities included or just those where utilities are not included. I have a few rental properties and have always wonders if certain populations or areas are more likely to include utilities in rent, or not to.

[Taeolas]

Welcome to Freddy.

Looking at those stats, I'm impressed that Fredericton seems to be outperforming both SJ and Moncton in those growth stats. Though it also has to do some home-cleanup too by the looks of it.

[MonctonRad]

Quarterly Building Permit Stats by Atlantic Canadian CMA - Third Quarter 2017.

Halifax - $264.1M
St. John's - $141.3M
Moncton - $95.1M
Saint John - $37.6M

The ranking is what you would expect. I thought that was a pretty good showing by St. John's though......

[KnoxfordGuy]

Can't wait for Fredericton to be a CMA so we can get more frequent information like this! Gurrrrrrrr

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Quarterly Building Permit Stats by Atlantic Canadian CMA - Third Quarter 2017.

Halifax - $264.1M
St. John's - $141.3M
Moncton - $95.1M
Saint John - $37.6M

The ranking is what you would expect. I thought that was a pretty good showing by St. John's though......

I thought Moncton's numbers would have been a tad bit higher since there has been a lot of construction going on. But how long are building permits good for after being issued? If it's a year, or more. It could be the reason the numbers seem so lo despite the amount of construction around the city.

Originally Posted by KnoxfordGuy

Can't wait for Fredericton to be a CMA so we can get more frequent information like this! Gurrrrrrrr

It seems odd to see Saint John, and Moncton without Fredericton on the board with em. But hopefully soon enough Fredericton will become a CMA, and we will be able to get Quarterly Building Permit Stats for them as well.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Scarface

I thought Moncton's numbers would have been a tad bit higher since there has been a lot of construction going on. But how long are building permits good for after being issued? If it's a year, or more. It could be the reason the numbers seem so lo despite the amount of construction around the city.

1) - a building permit can be issued some time before construction actually begins, so yes, the stats can be misleading. It should be remembered however that for big projects, the building permits can be issued in stages, spreading out the value of construction over a period of time.

2) - the values I posted were only for the third quarter of 2017. Annualized, that would be nearly $400M in construction in the Moncton CMA - nothing to sneeze at.........

[Wishblade]

I personally don't find any of the numbers surprising, though Saint John could really use a boost, and soon :/. On an aside note, Halifax accounted for over 60% of the building permit value for multi family dwellings in the atlantic provinces in the third quarter.

[q12]

THE MARITIMES ARE GROWING! (Sorry Newfoundland and Labrador)

Maritimes third quarter of 2017 population estimate: 1,865,545

Added over 4,600 people third quarter of 2017! (Added over 6,000 since first quarter of 2017)



http://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cansim/a26...ataTable&csid=


1984 vs 2017 (over 30 years ago)

[Taeolas]

Hopefully we can keep it up. I'd love to see us crack 2 million as a region relatively soon. And Nova Scotia is way overdue for cracking the 1 million mark.

[JHikka]

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[Monctoncore]

Originally Posted by JHikka

orzbluefog

Participation in what?

[MonctonRad]

Workforce participation - i.e. the percentage of the population actively engaged in work. The participation rate is falling in all four provinces, mostly because of the increasing number of retirees.

A low participation rate will lead inevitably lead to a lower unemployment rate, but this is not necessarily a good thing because the low unemployment rate is due to fewer people looking for work, not more jobs. A low participation rate really means economic weakness and fewer tax dollars for the government. This is why there is pressure on the government to increase the retirement age from 65 to maybe 70 or higher.........

[Taeolas]

Raising the retirement age is just pushing the problem another 5-10 years down the road.

What we really need is to increase the number of young people in the region, by hook or by birth basically. I suspect those upticks we see in Newfoundland and NB at the very end are likely due to the Syrian refugees moving into the region.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

A low participation rate will lead inevitably lead to a lower unemployment rate, but this is not necessarily a good thing because the low unemployment rate is due to fewer people looking for work, not more jobs. A low participation rate really means economic weakness and fewer tax dollars for the government. This is why there is pressure on the government to increase the retirement age from 65 to maybe 70 or higher.........

It basically means the few children that the baby boomers had won't be able to afford the healthcare costs of their parents without significant tax increase or budget alterations. This is why there is significant pressure to increase immigration numbers so the entire region isn't a retirement home that can't afford itself in 10 years.

[kwajo]

CMHC shows an Uptown Saint John apartment vacancy drop of 9.4% in 2016 to 4.9% in 2017. The rate for the city as a whole has gone up by around 4% in that time.