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Bah, people will drive. It seems big enough to be entertaining, so even dwellers of the inner city will visit it at least once, or more if it's friendly enough.

They take their kids to Disneyland, after all.
That's true. and it does appear to have a roller coaster!
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1000 Trees and an Urban Village to Cover Part of Paris Ring Road

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Recently unveiled, the winning projects are set to materialize within the few next years, including Sou Fujimoto Architects and Manal Rachdi Oxo Architectes' project Mille Arbres, which literally translates to One Thousand Trees. Selected for the 6,450-square-metre Avenue de la Porte des Ternes site, the project will be located on both a parking lot and directly above the divisive Boulevard Périphérique ring road where it separates western Paris' XVIIth arrondissement and the chic Neuilly-Sur-Seine suburb from the immediately adjacent convention centre.
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^ Now that's cool!
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also cool, I think:

La Defense Building First All-Residential Project in 30 Years

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Situated just west of Paris, La Défense is Europe's largest business district with 3.5 million square metres of office space. Founded in the late 1950s with the construction of the architecturally striking CNIT, an exhibition centre dedicated to the French industry, the neighbourhood rapidly developed around its notorious 30-hectare pedestrian-only esplanade. Today, approximately 10,000 people live around the concrete pad, which sits mostly empty after the region's 180,000 office workers vacate the area each day. To remediate to the lack of housing in the precinct, developer Nexity Residential is currently building a residential-only edifice, marketed as Skylight, a first for La Défense in more than 30 years.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2016, 7:37 PM
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Work began last year on the southern section of brand new line 15 of the métro network. So developers are already at work, too.
This €50M residential project with a lot of retail nearby the future stop in Bagneux for instance.






http://www.mimram.com/?project=logements-commerces

Oh, not the high-rise of many dreams on this forum, just the new standard to manage density here.

Bagneux will be served by the southern expansion of line 4 too, so line 15 will meet it there. The project above should be completed in 2018. Needless to say, there'll be more to come right there in Bagneux or in any suburb served by the new stations of the enormous expansion of the métro network. You don't think developers will miss a single opportunity, do you?
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an honest question: is there a parisian suburb where these huge plazas actually do good work for the neighborhood?
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2016, 11:20 AM
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My honest answer: it's too soon to tell in this case, cause we don't have a clue about the layout, the connections to the surroundings or about the planning of the overall thing. All we know is it will be served by 2 métro lines by 2022, so there'll be a bunch of more buildings around.

It certainly won't be like some cheap post-war "grand ensemble" anyway. The 1960s/70s are old by now, and they don't repeat the same mistakes. In this case of Bagneux, I think they'd rather correct them.
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an honest question: is there a parisian suburb where these huge plazas actually do good work for the neighborhood?
Your literal question is whether there exists a plaza that works well, and not to speculate on whether a future one might. This one in Gentilly isn't the most beautiful, but it has a market sometimes, and is generally pretty lively with people walking through, drinking plastic cups of espresso, etc.
https://goo.gl/maps/PFCMaoKATsN2

I haven't been there often, since it's not particularly convenient to the metro, but I've walked through a few times and have thought that it's surprisingly OK given that it's not the most fashionable or rich part of greater Paris and that the buildings are pretty ugly. I guess that's a pretty good indication that the urban function of the plaza is working.
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^ Hi. As far as I know, only 3 construction companies based in this country are large enough to implement a skyscraper project on their own. Vinci (the largest of them), Bouygues and Eiffage. These 3 are experienced in building towers, that's no problem to them. They would do a good job like good quality finishes provided that a developer is ok to pay for it.

Saint-Gobain is a company specializing in building materials, especially in glass. So I would trust they carefully made their choice. That tower is supposed to advertise their savoir-faire. It's expected to be sleek.
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An interesting article about Greater Paris in L'Opinion, the French equivalent of the Wall Street Journal.
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Greater Paris, a front-running metropolis of the 21st century?

By Jean-Ludovic Silicani, French commissioner in charge of the State reform
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March 22, 2016

Paris must become "a more human metropolis, but also a more global one, with its universal values, its influence and its attractiveness".

Since the 19th century, Paris and London are vying for the title of largest metropolis of Europe. Today they are in a tie. That's the case in terms of population, with regard to two international criteria: the metropolitan area, that is the catchment area of a metropolis (approximately 13 million inhabitants each); the agglomeration, that is the contiguous urbanization (approximately 10 million inhabitants each). That's also the case in economic terms: behind the metropolises of Tokyo, New York, and LA, those of Chicago, Paris, and London have similar GDPs, that is to say 600 billion US dollars each. Thus, from a global quantitative point of view (population and GDP), the Parisian metropolis is, on par with London, the fourth in the world and the first in Europe. La Défense is the first dedicated business quarter in Europe, and Paris is the most important center of international arbitration in the world.

A symbol of liberty. Moreover, the Parisian metropolis is, among the "world cities", one of the few which is truly global, that is to say a political, economic, intellectual, and scientific capital. It shares this characteristic only with Tokyo and London. Paris hosts several large international organizations, in particular the OECD and UNESCO. Finally, let's note that the attractiveness of Paris is exceptional: first metropolis in the world for tourism, it fascinates the planet and is the symbol of the art of living and liberty.

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Yet the Parisian metropolis will be able to keep its rank, prosper and shine in the world only if it accelerates its transformation. Although the administrative borders of Paris had always been enlarged along the centuries, a bewildering reform in 1964 disbanded, effective in 1968, the department of the Seine, which corresponded more or less to Paris and today's three departments of the inner suburbs. Paris became reduced to the administrative limits of the commune of the same name, with barely 2 million inhabitants, surrounded by a new wall, the Périphérique. At the same time, the Greater London was created with, at the time, seven million inhabitants. In this regard, the creation of the Greater Paris Metropolis on January 1, 2016 is a good reform, but we have to go much further. Let's start to think about it now already!

Going further, first of all, in what regards the geographic limits of Greater Paris. Taking into account the footprint of urbanization, the direction of the waterways and the great axes of communication, the natural or wooded spaces, one can identify an urbanized territory containing approximately 8 millions inhabitants, like the current Greater London, but on a surface twice smaller. This Greater Paris would thus have its borders delineated on the basis of geographic, economic, and social criteria, and not on the basis of administrative borders set more than 50 years ago. [that's a direct criticism of the Greater Paris Metropolis whose borders have been lamely aligned with the borders of the three inner suburban departments fixed in 1964, without trying to modify those borders] The Île-de-France region should in parallel be enlarged, in particular towards the north.

Going further, also, as it has been done for Greater Lyon, by simplifying the administrative structures: today five levels of local governments are superimposed on each other (communes, EPTs, departments, metropolis, region), versus two for Greater London (the metropolis, which is also a region, and its 32 boroughs plus the City of London). The [French] State will have, in parallel, to simplify the organization of its own branches/services on the territory of Greater Paris, and could transfer to the metropolis some of its responsibilities and resources.

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http://www.lopinion.fr/edition/polit...e-siecle-99312
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^ Decent filler. Is that a legitimate proposal?
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^ Decent filler. Is that a legitimate proposal?
It is actually under construction !
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Ha! I stand corrected! Are there any construction pics? If there's one thing we lack in this forum it's coverage of European cities. And there are some great buildings going up there.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2016, 10:21 AM
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It is actually under construction !
Not yet. They've only been doing some preliminary work, quite taking their time for the developer, Unibail-Rodamco, the one that was supposed to build the Phare tower and eventually canceled it doesn't miss office space to lease over the district yet.

This is what the site is looking like.



Picture by Vincent who actually brings some updates of high-rise constructions over Paris to the forum from time to time.
The problem is there's only one at the moment, that is the new courthouse.

Sorry but no skyscraper is currently under construction over la Défense by following the construction criteria of the forum.

By the way, you'll notice that the new Paris courthouse, a public project is the only skyscraper of which the construction began over Greater Paris since 2012 when the current government was elected. I guess that's no accident, assuming a bunch of developers / investors are in stand-by over here right now, possibly waiting for next year's presidential election to launch the construction of their projects. They don't seem exactly confident in the current public authorities whose messages and signals have been somewhat changing and confusing regarding the business policy. Whereas business leaders hate uncertainty. That scares them too much.
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An interesting article about Greater Paris in L'Opinion, the French equivalent of the Wall Street Journal.

"a political, economic, intellectual, and scientific capital. It shares this characteristic only with Tokyo and London."
Haha, I like how they conveniently leave NYC out of this sentiment.

Sneaky, sneaky French journalists.
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^ Tss. They would just often play the significance of the US down because of a certain American arrogance. To the effect that the 'murikans are not so different from the French in that respect.

But they could mention Boston, SF or Chicago along with NYC anyway.
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Haha, I like how they conveniently leave NYC out of this sentiment.
New York City is not the political capital in the USA, it is DC.
It doesn't reduce the importance of New York City but the United States are not as centralized as Japan, France and UK where everything is in the capital.

Paris is seeing a housing construction boom
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Great news from the Ministry of Environment and Housing. They have released data about the construction of dwellings in France, and the data show the construction of dwellings in the Paris Region has increased markedly since we've entered the 2010s, and in 2015 they reached their maximum ever since 1989 (start of dwelling construction statistics)!



After many years of insufficient construction of dwellings, well below the regional objectives (the objective from 1995 to 2010 was 53,000 new dwellings per year, but only 42,800 were built per year), the regional and national authorities have finally decided to get their act together and put in place proactive policies to enable the construction of more dwellings. These policies are part of the Greater Paris ("Grand Paris") project launched under Sarkozy which reversed decades of national and regional efforts to limit the growth of Paris (very similar to the post-WW2 British policies trying to limit the growth of London; both cities were seen as too big and as a liability for the rest of the country). Contrary to a popular cliché both within France and outside, since the collapse of the 2nd Empire in 1870 the French national authorities have consistently opposed the growth of Paris, and if Paris grew nonetheless that was despite and against the wishes of the national authorities. The result of this opposition to Paris's growth was of course the lack of planning in the banlieue which grew haphazardly without a masterplan and with a subpar urban layout and low quality housing (not a general rule, as there are some very wealthy and high-quality suburbs, but still true for a great part of the banlieue).

The realization that a global city was actually an asset for a country and that the global economy was more and more becoming an economy of global cities came about 15 years later in France than in the UK. That's why it is not until the late 2000s that the French authorities finally woke up to the fact that they needed to ditch all the policies artificially constraining the growth of Paris, and promote and foster its development in every possible way. This is a complete change of paradigm for France, returning to the situation that prevailed under Haussmann and the 2nd Empire, and the effect of this change will take time to materialize but it should be portentous.

The Greater Paris project is multi-layered: it entails the construction of more than 200 km/125 miles of underground rapid subways (the so-called 'Grand Paris Express') to make transportation in the inner suburbs faster and easier, but it also entails the creation of a unified metropolitan authority covering unfortunately only Paris and the inner suburbs (the 'Métropole du Grand Paris', whose small territory is now criticized on all sides), and, perhaps even more importantly, the construction of many new dwellings to make up for the current shortage and welcome more inhabitants in the metropolis. This last point, often overlooked by the media, is a real Copernican revolution in France. As recently as 1994, the Paris Region authorities said this in their white paper about the growth of the region:
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If it is spared gigantism and excessive concentration, which is the objective of this white paper, the Paris Region will be able to benefit from a better allocation of immaterial resources, men and activities.

Limiting population growth to reach only 11.8 million in 2015 instead of 13 million, as the current unchecked trend would have it, requires reining in on new urbanization, limiting the creation of new offices (requirement of an administrative "agrément" to set up new offices), and respecting the balance job/dwelling.
What a change in 20 years! In 2010 the French Parliament, bypassing the conservative Socialist regional authorities (which lost power in December 2015), passed a so-called 'Greater Paris Act' which set a much more ambitious objective of 70,000 new dwellings per year. Provisions were also made to allow the public entity in charge of building the Grand Paris Express subway to exercise eminent domain (expropriate) within a radius of 400 meters around the future stations of the Grand Paris Express to build lots of dwellings there. Regulations are also being relaxed, loans made easier, and public properties turned over to developers (such as the large tracts of land owned by the national railway company SNCF). Now for the 1st time in 145 years we have authorities both at the regional and above all national level who contemplate a rising population for Paris as a positive thing.

This map shows the new housing potential around each future station of the Grand Paris Express subway lines. The Atelier International du Grand Paris ("Greater Paris International Workshop", which was created by Sarkozy and resembles the Architekten-Ausschuß Groß-Berlin created by architects in 1906 to turn Berlin into a Greater Berlin) estimates that the circles around each station could house 2.5 million new inhabitants. The percentages indicate how many of these 2.5 million each circle could accommodate (by demolishing after exercising eminent domain and densifying, dark blue, or by building on currently unbuilt land, light blue).



Back in 2010, many people (especially in the construction sector), including myself, thought that 70,000 new dwellings per year was unachievable. Yet it seems the measures adopted are starting to bear fruit. In 2015, the record number of 64,800 dwellings were started, and figures from the 1st quarter of 2016 show that the numbers are rising still, with 66,800 dwellings started in the 12 months from April 2015 to March 2016.

We're now back at levels of construction unseen since the 1980s, and very close to the Parliament's objective of 70,000 new dwellings per year. And the numbers will probably rise further in the coming years, considering that tens of thousands of dwellings are going to be built around the métro stations of the Grand Paris Express. Only last week the businesses of the Paris Region officially asked the government to raise the objective of construction further to 90,000 new dwellings per year. :nuts:

This, of course, should boost population growth in the Paris Region, so we can expect higher population growth rates than has been the case in recent years. Typically it takes 3 years for dwellings to be completed. Based on observations from other parts of France, like Haute-Garonne (Toulouse) and Gironde (Bordeaux), a rise in the number of dwellings started leads to higher population growth 3 years later.

Between Jan. 2004 and Jan. 2010, 44,600 new dwellings were started per year in the Paris Region. The population of the Paris Region between Jan. 2007 and Jan. 2013 grew by +0.51% per year. Then from Jan. 2010 to Jan. 2015, 55,600 new dwellings were started per year, and in 2015 64,800 were started like I said. We don't know yet by how much the population of the Paris Region has grown after Jan. 2013 (the results of the yearly January census are unveiled only 3 years after the census), but most likely this increase in construction has led to a population growth rate higher than +0.51%, especially considering that France's net migration is finally starting to rise (in 2012, Metropolitan France's net migration was +90,831, whereas INSEE previously thought it would be only +45,000).

For an idea of what we can expect, back in the 1980s when construction of dwellings in the Paris Region was at the same level as in 2015, the population growth rate of the region was in the +0.70%/+0.80% range. If construction rises further and reaches 90,000 per year which is now the desired objective of the regional businesses, that means we could pretty well reach growth rates of +1.0% per year, which have been unseen in the Paris Region since the end of the economic boom in 1974. Quite a turnaround!

Some recent pictures of large housing projects in the Paris Region:

















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Residential design by Miami-based Arquitectonica planned in Suresnes, an inner suburb west of Central Paris.


http://www.nomad-conseil.fr/project/...ilex-suresnes/

Looking neat, these would offer exclusive views over both la Défense's cluster in a distance and the central city, since there's no highrise around yet.

Don't hold your breath for construction anyway, but this kind of projects is now over the place, which is still something.
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Residential design by Miami-based Arquitectonica planned in Suresnes, an inner suburb west of Central Paris.


http://www.nomad-conseil.fr/project/...ilex-suresnes/

Looking neat, these would offer exclusive views over both la Défense's cluster in a distance and the central city, since there's no highrise around yet.

Don't hold your breath for construction anyway, but this kind of projects is now over the place, which is still something.

The project has been cancelled
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^ The original design was rejected and buildings that will sit there might be shorter in the end, but there will be something, possibly tall that NIMBYs will strike over and over for any stupid reason. It's being discussed by the municipal authorities at the moment. They claim the view from the Mont Valérien should be preserved, yet Suresnes is not such a gem of a suburban town. It's pretty random to us all, not like there would be so much heritage to preserve right there.

I predict Hermitage Plaza in la Défense will be NIMBYs' Trojan Horse that will ruin their harmful cause for good. We no longer can afford to cancel every mixed-use or residential high-rise project just to satisfy a little handful of retarded NIMBYs. At some point, development must prevail. Period.
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