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HossC · #**26581** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Thx for the response sadykadie2, but please do not quote my whole post, it was too long to begin with!

I didn't think your post was too long - I found it very interesting (although I'm glad every post isn't that length

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I concur about the quoting of whole posts.

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When I saw this Angel's Flight booklet on eBay, I nearly didn't check it out because I remembered e_r had recently posted pages from an Angels's Flight booklet. It turns out that the booklet in post #25154 was from 1961, whereas this one is from 1966. It was written by Walt Wheelock.
NB. I've reconstructed this cover from two separate images, and tweaked and rotated the others. All images are from eBay.

The booklet contains this summary of the history of Angel's Flight. Note the last sentence about the redevelopment of Bunker Hill and the possible need to relocate Angel's Flight.

A bit more history.

This piece focuses mainly on the redevelopment of Bunker Hill. Contrary to the earlier text, this one suggests that Angel's Flight will be taken down and stored for two years, during which time it will be refurbished. Then the plan was to reassemble it at the original location.

They even included an artist's impression of Angel's Flight with the new buildings.

Finally, here's a set of souvenir tickets.

Martin Pal · #**26582** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 6:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

1925 - Pro Ball Player, Charlie Root and his Hudson outside Washington Park

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/2506/rec/1

I was kinda surprised to see that "LA" logo on his jacket in this photo. Though slightly different, I thought that arrived with the Dodgers.

This short article on L.A. Observed doesn't clarify it exactly.

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/20...gn_the_dod.php

Thank you, Stanklem, for your following post!

stanklem · #**26583** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 6:29 PM**

The Wikipedia article explains the history of the Los Angeles Angels and how the logo came to the dodgers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Angels_(PCL)

Tourmaline · #**26584** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 6:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by fhammon

I recently came across this photo which I've never seen before.
I might have missed it here. I believe this to be the east end of Ferguson Alley.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/58828338856609476/

I've never noticed this what looks like an alley-way before either. I can't make out the name. Anybody?
Is this what later became Ferguson Alley? That might be where his stable was.

LAPL dates your original image

as 1891. http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics28/00033979.jpg

More on the "Crib District": http://www.onbunkerhill.org/cribwars

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/...b1efa2fc_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/...5433a41c_o.jpg

Undated - Cribville

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Part of Chinatown featuring houses of prostitution. It was a segregated district near what became Union Station

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046727.jpg See alsohttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2555

HossC · #**26585** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I was kinda surprised to see that "LA" logo on his jacket in this photo. Though slightly different, I thought that arrived with the Dodgers.

This short article on L.A. Observed doesn't clarify it exactly.

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/20...gn_the_dod.php

Thank you, Stanklem, for your following post!

Here's a close-up of Charlie Root. I hadn't initially realized that the LA logo was scalloped.

Detail of picture in Huntington Digital Library

The picture was a publicity photograph for Walter M Murphy Motors Company. Here's their advert from the 1926 CD, showing their Hudson-Essex dealership was at 932 S Hope Street.

LAPL

tovangar2 · #**26586** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

I concur about the quoting of whole posts.

Thx Hoss. I find repeat posts very confusing. I just get lost and end up missing posts.

I was terrified of Angels Flight as a child in the 50s, but there was ice cream on top of the hill, so I never let out a peep while riding it. I always thought I would tumble out the back or the car would break loose and careen down the hill. I consoled myself that mine was an unreasonable fear which I needed to control.

I took my children on it when they were small, me silently white-knuckling it the whole time. They loved it.

Of course the reinstalled Angels Flight wasn't safe after all. I did not know (or remember) that there was a fatality at the old location. Thx for your post, It made me remember the flood of relief I got when stepping onto the upper platform.

Compare this "Million Dollar" view with this one

CityBoyDoug · #**26587** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 7:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Welcome to noirish Los Angeles T.J.P. You're the Falcon Crest guy right?
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p.s. I worked for Lorimar, but I worked at MGM where we filmed 'Dallas" and "Knots Landing", so I have less information on 'Falcon Crest' (since they filmed in the valley and Napa Valley)
The closest I got to Falcon Crest was a gala at the Biltmore (downtown) celebrating their 100th (or was it 200th) episode. I knew Jane Wyman because she was close with my boss, the head of publicity for Lorimar. One day he had me ride with Jane Wyman to LAX (in a limo!) to help with her luggage and such. She had sunglasses on and a ''turban' on her hair and was very nice and very fragile even back then. I helped her to the lounge where she introduced me to Bob Newhart (he was the only one in the lounge). When she introduced me, she made it sound like I was her good friend even though I had just met her.

I also attended a function for Falcon Crest at some mansion above Sunset Blvd. (I wish I could remember which mansion). I rode with the publicist for Falcon Crest and we picked up
Susan Sullivan on the way, and took her home afterwards. The party was mostly around the pool.
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Hello ER:
I certainly enjoy reading your posts about your days in Hollywood show business. Please feel welcome to relate more when the mood strikes you.
Here's a favorite post of mine. Link: [It reminds me of my days when I was at Paramount Studio....circa 1975.]

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6763

I've been watching the YT series of interviews with Lee Rich one of the Founders of LORIMAR. What an interesting man!! Did you get to meet him or was he in a different area than yourself? Link here: its 5 hours total.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvjX3D-wYEo

tovangar2 · #**26588** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 7:59 PM**

OMG, you're dredging up all sorts of memories. Some of them good ones.

tovangar2 · #**26589** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 9:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I just found this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chinese-Men-...item234ab10597

I just noticed the image below, part of a montage, over at USC digital library

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/2912/rec/3

Tourmaline · #**26590** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by ProphetM

Here is another photo of Monkey Island with an angle I hadn't seen before:

Circus Anonymous

A couple more that may have been overlooked? They may also suggest a few unspoken reasons for the island's demise.

1940 - The Island Monkey Bar

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JT23XABI3B.jpg

Undated photo of "Sourpuss" the blindfolded tightrope walker.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...E1PFXVP6KM.jpg

jbange · #**26591** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

mystery location. -3 slides.

And finally, in this last slide we get to see a portion of the school. (looks like it might be parochial)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Photo-Sl...item46353ff364

Think we can figure out the location?

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That school looks very familiar to me, but I can't place it (there are 800 elementary schools, and I've been to most of them). I'd pretty much lay money that it's an LAUSD school built in the 20's or early 30's. It's the paint color. I don't know where they get it, but they painted every LAUSD school that color up into the 90's, and it's the most depressing beige/brown color in the universe, something clearly selected by a lifeless government committee. I'm still searching google maps. I know it's there somewhere.

Tourmaline · #**26592** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 10:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

A stunning view of the Coral Canal in Venice Beach California circa 1920s.

found on ebay

below: The reverse side of the Coral Canal cabinet card.

detail

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Venice Canal Scene - 1910

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/682/rec/22

1911

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/683/rec/23

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/684/rec/24

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/686/rec/25

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/687/rec/26

Alderbaran Canal

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/693/rec/32

On the Lagoon

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/688/rec/27

Across the idyllic lagoon

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/692/rec/31

1928 Villa

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/696/rec/35

1910 - The Villas.

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/702/rec/40

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/703/rec/41

1910 Lagoon and Midway

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd...e/id/699/rec/6

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd...e/id/711/rec/1

A dollar's worth of nightmares for only ten Cents.

Thompson Scenic Railway or a rollercoaster, "The Bobs?"

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd...e/id/236/rec/7

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd...e/id/229/rec/4

Ask for the Noah-discount on the Big Dipper!

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd...e/id/231/rec/5

Tourmaline · #**26593** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 10:54 PM**

1940 - A bustling Olive Street in Burbank

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/319/rec/17

Tourmaline · #**26594** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 11:07 PM**

A familiar building at Fourth and Spring?

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The German-American Savings Bank was founded in 1890, and it changed its name to the German-American Trust and Savings Bank in 1912. The bank was located at the northeast corner of First and Main streets between 1894 and 1906 before moving to the new location at Spring and Fourth streets. In 1917, the bank changed its name again to Guaranty Turst and Savings Bank in response to anti-German sentiment after World War I. It merged into Security Trust and Savings Bank in 1921.

1910 - German-American Savings Bank

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/833/rec/45

Reports of a hand menacing traffic at Fourth and Spring is but a street car operator' myth, or is it?

Your money is guarded by a helping hand and a large vault at German-American Savings Bank

1915 - nice vault.

http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/cd.../id/834/rec/46

ethereal_reality · #**26595** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 11:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by jbange

That school looks very familiar to me, but I can't place it (there are 800 elementary schools, and I've been to most of them).
I'd pretty much lay money that it's an LAUSD school built in the 20's or early 30's. I'm still searching google maps. I know it's there somewhere.

800 elementary schools! I doubt that we'll ever locate the 'roller-skating' school slides.

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Earlier today I came across another group of school photographs. At first I thought it might be the same school...but it's too difficult to tell.
They gave the date as 1945, and the location as Los Angeles.

This one shows the neighboring houses.(they look similar to the houses in the roller-skating slides, but they differ in the details)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1945-B-W-Pho...item4ae5ae84ae

cute kids! 1945 style.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1945-B-W-Pho...item4ae5ae84ae

all of 'em. be sure to scroll right ----->

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ethereal_reality · #**26596** Posted **Mar 1, 2015, 11:27 PM**

Oak Garage, Rio Grande Service Station, Los Angeles vicinity, 1920s.

old file of mine

-note the El Camino Real Mission Bell Marker. (I didn't see it until I enlarged the photograph)

I found an "Oak Garage" in only one city directory.

1928 San Fernando Valley

LAPL

...But I don't understand the street system listed. Help!
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HossC · #**26597** Posted **Mar 2, 2015, 12:24 AM**

I found the same image on the waterandpower.org site. They got it from LAPL where it's dated as circa 1936 and comes with this description:

"Exterior view of the Oak Garage, a gas station and auto repair garage on Calabasas Road in Calabasas. A bell marker identifying El Camino Real is visible on the left side of the image. Calabasas Road is partially visible in the background on the right. The garage is named for the oak tree, known as "Hangman's Oak", whose limb is seen across the top of the image. The tree was used for hangings at the Calabasas Jail, which used to stand near the site shown here. "

Here's an earlier view titled "Charles Cooper standing next to his Calabasas Grocery Store and the Oak Garage, 1910s" (also found through waterandpower.org). The description says:

"Charles Cooper, on the left, standing next to his grocery store and the Oak Garage. He and his wife, Alice Cooper, also owned a hotel called "Hunter's Inn." The hotel provided rooms for hunters and travelers. After Charles died, his widow married Lawrence Kramer and they renamed the grocery store Kramer's Grocery Store. They owned and operated the grocery store until he retired in 1968. Donor: Sheldon Cooper."

I wonder if Sheldon Cooper is a descendent of Charles Cooper, and how he feels about 'The Big Bang Theory'!

California State University Northridge

Finally, I found a PDF file with the address of the Oak Garage. Here are the relevant paragraphs.

"Samuel John Cooper, his wife Mary, and eight children lived on a ranch on Old Topanga Road. They moved to Norwalk from Canada, but after only a few months claimed 160 acres in Calabasas. He owned the Calabasas Grocery Store, known as Cooper’s, which also offered lodging and meals as Hunter’s Inn. The Coopers moved the building from Brent’s Junction (Ventura Road and Las Virgenes Road) to its present-day location across from the Leonis Adobe at 23504 Calabasas Road. After Samuel Cooper, Sr. died in 1901, his wife Mary moved to Los Angeles and rented their land. Mary, the daughter of Samuel and Mary decided to manage the homestead with her cousin Jessie Tucker. They boarded cows for other people to make money. The Cooper sons were Frank, Matt, Samuel Cooper, Jr. and Charles. Charles Cooper and his wife Alice Kimball continued to run Hunter’s Inn. After Charles died in 1914, Alice married Lawrence Kramer. They operated the store, renamed Kramer’s Grocery Store, until Lawrence Kramer retired in 1968. The property in succession then housed a saloon, restaurant, and antique store.

Frank Cooper owned the Oak Garage, next to the grocery store at 23532 Calabasas Road. It was completely reconstructed in 1935 after being damaged in the 1933 earthquake. Matt and Samuel Cooper, Jr. owned a pie factory in Los Angeles. By 1904, the flour dust had started affecting Samuel Cooper, Jr.’s health and he returned to the homestead. He married Rose Dunkerlay and became a major landowner in the area."

ethereal_reality · #**26598** Posted **Mar 2, 2015, 12:55 AM**

Very interesting information HossC. So I take it that the bell is still at that location? ..and the Oak? (I'll gas up the google-mobile

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mystery location.

old file of mine

The people boarding the street-cars look like Co-Eds to me (some are holding books), and the building behind the tree looks academic

So my guess is....USC.
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hmmm.....but some of the students look too young to be in college. -so now I'm leaning more towards a high school.

HossC · #**26599** Posted **Mar 2, 2015, 1:07 AM**

We've seen a few interior shots of I Magnin's Wilshire store before, but I couldn't resist this selection when I saw them on eBay. The only one of these images I could find on NLA is the "Exclusive Apparel Salons" card which e_r posted in post #20478. I'm including it again for completeness.

All images are from eBay. I'm including the captions for search purposes.

"I. Magnin & Co., Wilshire at New Hampshire, Los Angeles" - exterior shot

"Motor Entrance, I. Magnin & Co., Los Angeles"

"'Western Air' Air-conditioning Equipment. I. Magnin & Co., Los Angeles"

"Shoe Salon, First Floor, I. Magnin & Co., Wilshire at New Hampshire, Los Angeles"

"Gift Room, First Floor, I. Magnin & Co., Wilshire at New Hampshire, Los Angeles"

"Detail of Second Floor, I. Magnin & Co., Los Angeles"

"Exclusive Apparel Salons, Second Floor, I. Magnin & Co., Los Angeles"

"Fur Salon, Second Floor, I. Magnin & Co., Los Angeles"

"Custom-made Salon, Second Floor, I. Magnin & Co., Wilshire at New Hampshire, Los Angeles"

"Millinery Salon, I. Magnin & Co., Los Angeles"

"Patio, Fourth Floor, I. Magnin & Co., Los Angeles"