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Old Posted Mar 16, 2017, 3:49 AM
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Looks to me like the City is going to relook at working with BC Hydro as per the latest in camera meeting minutes...

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Verbal Briefing: BC Hydro Downtown Substation Concept – Update on Proposed Transaction

A. THAT, due to the limited public engagement and concerns related to noise, park, transportation and utility impacts, electromagnetic field, financial due diligence, and the limited timeframe to complete the transactions required by BC Hydro, City Council not approve BC Hydro's current SEED proposal before the end of March 2017.

B. THAT City Council direct City staff to work with the Park Board to conduct public consultation on the SEED proposal this spring, and undertake additional due diligence on the aforementioned concerns.

C. THAT City Council direct staff to bring forward a recommendation for Council’s consideration on the SEED proposal, and this recommendation must be informed by the Park Board, for public decision by August 3, 2017.

D. THAT City Council direct staff to continue to pursue negotiations and due diligence on the SEED proposal with BC Hydro.

E. THAT City Council direct the City Manager to notify BC Hydro and the Park Board of this decision.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2017, 5:04 AM
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Looks to me like the City is going to relook at working with BC Hydro as per the latest in camera meeting minutes...
Why would BC Hydro revisit it when they said the August deadline doesn't work for them? A) It's bargaining B) It's not and they'll build above ground substations.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2017, 5:13 AM
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Not surprised in the slightest. The proposal just makes too much sense for everyone involved.
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The consultation of Seed should have been coordinated with the city from the get-go... the fact that it wasn't speaks volumes about how much BC Hydro actually cares about public engagement in general...
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The consultation of Seed should have been coordinated with the city from the get-go... the fact that it wasn't speaks volumes about how much BC Hydro actually cares about public engagement in general...
I think it was all thought out. Propose something to the CoV that looks like a huge win for the people of Vancouver (free park renovation, free school) and then make the CoV look stupid for rejecting it. Impose a tight timeline and say if you don't get what you want you have a backup plan in which the CoV gets none of the free perks.

It's almost as if they learned from the Negotiator-in-Chief.

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Old Posted Mar 16, 2017, 3:49 PM
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Why is there such a time pressure to get approval for a project that is essentially decades away?
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2017, 7:28 PM
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The changes to the associated infrastructure will probably also require a lot of planning and work to tie in the new facilities.

If Hydro has to assemble parcels for its own site, that alone (or expropriation as a last resort) could take some time as well.
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BC Hydro Consultation Underway – Two West End Schools and Coal Harbour Social Housing By 2028
...However, the consultations took no time at all to get ready as they are currently underway! Without any fan fair, BC Hydro started the consultations with an open house on May 1st. Not to worry though, as there is another large open house planned for May 17th\, as well as smaller round table discussion for today (May 7th), May 10th, and May 15th. If you can’t make any of those dates, there are online materials and info boards, plus a feedback form to fill out as well.

...reveals some shocking public feedback. With all the benefits of the proposal, it’s hard to believe that only 144 people from the West End and 54 for Yaletown took part or submitted a response. Of that total, only half were in favour of the idea of an underground substation, with 33% unsure if it was a good idea, and another 33% were opposed to it...

..Even worse, some of those expressed opinions that are grounded in misinformation, as 45 people opposed the project because of their fears about EMF radiation. Added to this total was a 196 signature petition from the Lord Roberts Annex PAC.

...The Vancouver School Board makes their decision to whether allow BC Hydro to proceed on June 25th. So make sure to attend one of the open houses or leave your feedback for BC Hydro here or email the Vancouver School Board at LRAproposal@vsb.bc.ca . Just make sure you do so before the consultation period ends on May 31st, that is unless you’re too busy managing a Cinnabon in Omaha.
https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2018/0...using-by-2028/
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Old Posted May 18, 2018, 5:27 AM
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Patti Bacchus: The VSB should pull the plug on B.C. Hydro’s school substation plan
by Patti Bacchus on May 10th, 2018 at 3:21 PM

...Let’s sum it up: the West End loses a much-loved small school and several trees beside a lovely, peaceful park that’s one of the few public green spaces in their densely populated community. They get five or more years of major construction work and all the disruption, dirt, and noise that brings. They get left with a buried electrical substation they worry will harm their and their children’s health, or maybe catch fire or blow up, as substations have been known to do. They may or may not get a school built on the site that would open in 2030 or later.

Seriously, what’s not to hate about this deal?...
https://www.straight.com/news/107411...ubstation-plan
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Old Posted May 18, 2018, 6:05 AM
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i agree, let them have brownouts and rolling blackouts instead!

maybe they'll change their tune then.
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Old Posted May 18, 2018, 8:42 AM
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The substation will be under ground. Unlike living beneath transmission lines which act like large capacitors, the substation won't be detrimental to anyone's health. And catch fire??? Blow up???? I mean I guess it's possible. There was a fire caused by an oil filled transformer in Richmond at the Kidd 2 substation. But the chances of a fire or explosion at a brand new substation that's underground are very small
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What a poorly written article. I wish they'd at least be a little more objective.... realistic. The biggest issues cited was construction and it maybe blowing up.
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Old Posted May 18, 2018, 5:27 PM
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BC Hydro actually addressed the explosion factor at one of the meetings. They're going to be using a more costly technology, apparently commonly used in Japan, to ensure that there won't need to be any oil used and thus no risk of going boom.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2018, 10:41 AM
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Pleasantly surprised to learn that it was approved: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...hool-1.4721959
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Pleasantly surprised to learn that it was approved: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...hool-1.4721959
Interesting. I would think there's enough land to build the new school, move the kids, then demolish the old school and build the substation.

No word on the Coal Harbour school funding either. That has been "in the works" for about a decade. I can't see this all coming together by 2023.
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Pleasantly surprised to learn that it was approved: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...hool-1.4721959
That's good! Makes a lot of sense. I never understood why people were so against this. The current school looks like a piece of junk.

Since this is to replace the burrard substation I wonder what will happen to that site
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That's good! Makes a lot of sense. I never understood why people were so against this. The current school looks like a piece of junk.

Since this is to replace the burrard substation I wonder what will happen to that site
Convert the substation to lofts/condos (like the tower)

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Old Posted Jul 28, 2018, 6:15 AM
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As the Vancouver School Board recently accepted our proposal for an underground substation at the Lord Roberts Annex property, we'll be drilling one borehole (approximately 12 centimetre diameter) on the property so we can better understand the subsurface conditions. This is part of our due diligence in finalizing our agreement with the Vancouver School Board.

Workers will be on-site July 17-19, 2018 with borehole drilling taking place on July 18, just off of the Lord Roberts Annex parking lot...
https://www.bchydro.com/energy-in-bc....html#schedule

For those that are interested, I've included links to the consultation reports as well.

Comments / Responses
https://www.bchydro.com/content/dam/...ponse-memo.pdf

Support Levels
https://www.bchydro.com/content/dam/...ion-report.pdf
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