NEW YORK | The Empire State Building | 1,472' Pinnacle | 103 FLOORS | 1931 - Page 43

QUEENSNYMAN · #**841** Posted **Feb 28, 2012, 12:20 AM**

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DeJaVuSG

Hail to THE KING OF ALL BUILDINGS!

http://www.youtube.com/user/NYBOY75

DrNest · #**842** Posted **Feb 28, 2012, 12:25 AM**

That is a nice looking tower that adds some height to the neighbourhood near the ESB. Thanks for the info.

CarlosV · #**843** Posted **Mar 2, 2012, 10:57 PM**

On this day.....March 02, 1933 – The film "King Kong" premiered at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. The star besides the Ape was the Empire State Building, then the World's tallest building!

IMG_3520[1] copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

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Empire State Building - low clouds by godshotel, on Flickr

THE BIG APPLE · #**844** Posted **Mar 17, 2012, 12:32 PM**

Westin New York

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Dense_Electric · #**845** Posted **Mar 17, 2012, 12:39 PM**

Hey, I came across an old comment in the 1WTC thread where someone (STR, I think) mentioned there were renderings of a plan from the 70's to add something like thirty floors to the ESB. I looked through the thread but couldn't find them, anyone have those renderings?

THE BIG APPLE · #**846** Posted **Mar 17, 2012, 1:10 PM**

^ Really? Never heard of those plans. Only thing that got added was an antenna.

CarlosV · #**847** Posted **Mar 17, 2012, 1:25 PM**

i heard that too.......to make it again the world's tallest....

THE BIG APPLE · #**848** Posted **Mar 17, 2012, 1:34 PM**

Well it would look beyond gross if they did that.

hunser · #**849** Posted **Mar 17, 2012, 2:14 PM**

^^

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/ny...pagewanted=all

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Four decades later, rivalry sparked another unrealized scheme. In the early 70's, when the Empire State's reign as the city's and nation's tallest building was challenged by the World Trade Center and the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Empire State architects presented sketches depicting ways to add 11 floors to the building.

The plan involved lopping off the 16 top stories and replacing them with larger and more modern office floors. Asked if the new segment would conform to the building's style, Robert W. Jones, vice president of Shreve, Lamb & Harmon, the original architects, said it wouldn't. "It's like Chartres," he said. "They built one tower in early Gothic and later they built another one in flamboyant Gothic."

jd3189 · #**850** Posted **Mar 17, 2012, 8:00 PM**

Wonder how they would have done that?

hunser · #**851** Posted **Mar 18, 2012, 3:31 PM**

MUST WATCH!

• Video Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4baFdPRE3hA&amp

The days of the ESB being the city's tallest are numbered...

jsr · #**852** Posted **Mar 18, 2012, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by jd3189

Wonder how they would have done that?

Photo:The Architect's Newspaper

Simple massing models schemes.

Dylan Leblanc · #**853** Posted **Mar 19, 2012, 12:17 AM**

Ack! That would have ruined the building, and for what, to still be the country's tallest? Not worth it.

THE BIG APPLE · #**854** Posted **Mar 19, 2012, 12:26 AM**

I don't think it was necessary. Atleast the country and even the same city was getting the WTB with the Twins, not some foreign country like Dubai. Dubai.

vandelay · #**855** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 9:10 PM**

New York in 1966:

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ESB at 1:50

ChiSoxRox · #**856** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 9:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsr

Photo:The Architect's Newspaper

Simple massing models schemes.

Ack, considering that this was the early 1970s and the architect used the word "flamboyant" to describe the new style, I shudder to imagine what the addition would have looked like.

When I was in New York last week, we stopped by the ESB, and this building looks even more imposing in person. It seems so much more solid than the glass and steel towers its size that I've seen.

jd3189 · #**857** Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 10:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsr

Photo:The Architect's Newspaper

Simple massing models schemes.

Completely different from what I was thinking. I thought they would have just remove the mast and build more floors and put the mast back on. But then again, the ESB is good the way it is. The Metlife North, if people are still interested in it, could be redesigned to mimic that classic art deco look while still suppassing its iconic next door neighbor like it was suppose to do years ago. We can't just have 432 Park having the highest roof in the city.

marvelfannumber1 · #**858** Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 6:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by jsr

Photo:The Architect's Newspaper

Simple massing models schemes.

I would also like to remind people that all of the new floors would have a 1960s glass facade (ew).

MolsonExport · #**859** Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 4:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsr

Photo:The Architect's Newspaper

Simple massing models schemes.

Down with these misshapen state buildings.

ThisSideofSteinway · #**860** Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 9:19 PM**

Unfortunately I can't find it, but somewhere out there there's a hilarious New Yorker cartoon depicting the Port Authority's response to the response. Basically, it proposed building a giant connecting spire on top of the Twin Towers.