Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport (YOW/CYOW) - Page 137

Dominion301 · #**2721** Posted **Jan 31, 2018, 6:10 PM**

WestJet's Swoop route announcements are tomorrow. YHM and YXX (unsurprisingly) will be the bases for the ULCC. Here's hoping YOW-YHM is part of their initial list of routes. Long overdue to return. YOW-somewhere else would be incredible. I just hope YOW's finally in on the ULCC party.

MountainView · #**2722** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 3:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

WestJet's Swoop route announcements are tomorrow. YHM and YXX (unsurprisingly) will be the bases for the ULCC. Here's hoping YOW-YHM is part of their initial list of routes. Long overdue to return. YOW-somewhere else would be incredible. I just hope YOW's finally in on the ULCC party.

Looks like it will by

YHM - YHZ, YEG, YWG and YXX
and YXX - YEG

With Westjet ending service between YHM and YHZ, YWG

This is based on wikipedia as of right now

Dominion301 · #**2723** Posted **Feb 1, 2018, 4:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by MountainView

Looks like it will by

YHM - YHZ, YEG, YWG and YXX
and YXX - YEG

With Westjet ending service between YHM and YHZ, YWG

This is based on wikipedia as of right now

Yep here it is: YXX-YEG 3x/day
YEG-YHM 1x/day
YWG-YHM 1x/day
YHM-YHZ 1x/day

They are not selling any connections as part of this initial schedule. No connections doesn't bode well for a YOW-YHM flight. Maybe YOW-YWG/YEG/YXX. However, it's no surprise YOW is not there. WestJet are pretty much blocking all the cities Jetlines said they'll serve initially and are attacking Flair.

Not surprised that some mainline is going away. Hjowever, it's interesting that there's no change to WS' summer 3x/day on YXX-YEG.

rocketphish · #**2724** Posted **Feb 2, 2018, 2:39 AM**

WestJet's Swoop will take off in June with low-cost flights between 5 cities

CBC News
Posted: Feb 01, 2018 1:25 PM ET Last Updated: Feb 01, 2018 2:39 PM ET

WestJet announced the schedule for its new "ultra-low-cost" airline Swoop on Thursday, which will include 24 flights a week from Hamilton.

The new flights will take off in June, travelling six times a week between Abbotsford, B.C., and Hamilton, Hamilton and Halifax, Hamilton and Edmonton and Hamilton and Winnipeg.

There will also be flights between Abbotsford and Edmonton, the company said in a news release.

The flights will be on Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Customers will pay their fare for a seat and can bring on one personal item. Then, they can choose to pay more to check bags, watch movies, use Wi-Fi, have more legroom and buy snacks and drinks on-board.

In a conference call in October, WestJet CEO Gregg Saretsky said he expected the ancillary fees for extras will be about twice as much as what customers pay on WestJet flights.

When it does start, Swoop will join other low-cost carriers in the Canadian market, including existing carriers Enerjet and Flair Air (formerly NewLeaf) and Jetlines, which aims to launch next year.

Passenger numbers at the Hamilton airport were up 80 per cent in 2017, according to numbers released last week.

The airport says that passenger traffic at the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport jumped to 599,146 people in 2017, compared to 333,368 in 2016.

Modelled after the relationship between Australia's Qantas Airways and Jetstar Airways Pty Ltd., Swoop will fly mostly to different destinations than WestJet, but may also supplement the larger airline on major city routes, Saretsky added.

He said Swoop will operate as an independent airline with its own reservation system, operator's certificate and airport check-in counters staffed by its own employees.

"We have been very resolute in wanting to build this at the absolute lowest (cost), so there will not even be connectivity between Swoop and WestJet," he told analysts.

With files from The Canadian Press, CBC Calgary

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/west...dule-1.4514313

JCL · #**2725** Posted **Feb 4, 2018, 1:51 PM**

Yesterday (February 3) and today, Air Inuit is operating First Air's flight between Ottawa and Iqaluit with their Boeing 737-200. However, the flight number is AIE750/751 instead of FAB860/861.

Reason is that First Air sent their own 737-400 to Florida to do the Celebrity Cruise charter flight, registration C-FFNM: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFFNM.

Dominion301 · #**2726** Posted **Feb 6, 2018, 2:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by JCL

Yesterday (February 3) and today, Air Inuit is operating First Air's flight between Ottawa and Iqaluit with their Boeing 737-200. However, the flight number is AIE750/751 instead of FAB860/861.

Reason is that First Air sent their own 737-400 to Florida to do the Celebrity Cruise charter flight, registration C-FFNM: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CFFNM.

Interesting. I wonder if this was a one-off or whether 7F will be operating the full Celebrity charter contract out of YOW this year instead of 5T?

Jayday23 · #**2727** Posted **Feb 8, 2018, 7:41 PM**

An article on the CBC (in french) suggests that a new link between the Gatineau Executive Airport and Barrie is currently being considered.

Will be run by the same company (Pascan) who are doing the twice weekly runs to YQB.

Link: http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/...oport-gatineau

Dominion301 · #**2728** Posted **Feb 9, 2018, 2:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jayday23

An article on the CBC (in french) suggests that a new link between the Gatineau Executive Airport and Barrie is currently being considered.

Will be run by the same company (Pascan) who are doing the twice weekly runs to YQB.

Link: http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/...oport-gatineau

Pascan are back at YND? The article implies that they used to serve YND-YQB. I know Air Liaison fly YND-YQB 2x on weekdays.

Ottawa-Barrie is a city pair I have for years thought has the potential to be served. Barrie, isn't exactly easy to get to from Ottawa and it's 75 minutes from YYZ to get there.

mxg308 · #**2729** Posted **Feb 9, 2018, 5:25 PM**

Year end totals for YOW. Sorry I stole your thunder Dominion301 but I was too excited not to post when I saw the numbers. So how about that transborder jump in December?

Sector / Dec-16 / Dec-17 / % Change
Dom: 295,182 / 313,521 / +6.2%
TB: 57,005 / 62,408 / +9.5%
Int'l: 39,129 / 36,973 / -5.5%
TTL: 391,316 / 412,902 / +5.5%

Sector / YTD 2016 / YTD 2017 / % Change
Dom: 3,679,232 / 3,813,672 / +3.7%
TB: 673,434 / 647,574 / -3.8%
Int'l: 390,425 / 378,431 / -3.0%
TTL: 4,743,091 / 4,839,677 / +2.0%

RomanR27 · #**2730** Posted **Feb 9, 2018, 6:25 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxg308

Year end totals for YOW. Sorry I stole your thunder Dominion301 but I was too excited not to post when I saw the numbers. So how about that transborder jump in December?

Sector / Dec-16 / Dec-17 / % Change
Dom: 295,182 / 313,521 / +6.2%
TB: 57,005 / 62,408 / +9.5%
Int'l: 39,129 / 36,973 / -5.5%
TTL: 391,316 / 412,902 / +5.5%

Sector / YTD 2016 / YTD 2017 / % Change
Dom: 3,679,232 / 3,813,672 / +3.7%
TB: 673,434 / 647,574 / -3.8%
Int'l: 390,425 / 378,431 / -3.0%
TTL: 4,743,091 / 4,839,677 / +2.0%

That TB jump/int'l drop is probably directly linked to AC increased Florida service and WS cutting back on sun service.

Dominion301 · #**2731** Posted **Feb 9, 2018, 7:44 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxg308

Year end totals for YOW. Sorry I stole your thunder Dominion301 but I was too excited not to post when I saw the numbers. So how about that transborder jump in December?

Sector / Dec-16 / Dec-17 / % Change
Dom: 295,182 / 313,521 / +6.2%
TB: 57,005 / 62,408 / +9.5%
Int'l: 39,129 / 36,973 / -5.5%
TTL: 391,316 / 412,902 / +5.5%

Sector / YTD 2016 / YTD 2017 / % Change
Dom: 3,679,232 / 3,813,672 / +3.7%
TB: 673,434 / 647,574 / -3.8%
Int'l: 390,425 / 378,431 / -3.0%
TTL: 4,743,091 / 4,839,677 / +2.0%

Hey go for it mxg308. Finally a month with overall solid growth. RomanR27 I think said it all.

Let's see how close to the 5 million mark YOW will get to in 2018. Unless we get an ULCC or some big announcement by AC, I think we'll be in the low 4.9 millions. Getting Transborder back up closer to 675k would be a start. Possibly doable with AA's coming 3rd PHL flight and the additional AC Florida service.

Dominion301 · #**2732** Posted **Feb 15, 2018, 3:31 PM**

While it took a while for year-end 2017 numbers to come out, January 2018's number followed not long afterwards. The year's gotten off to a decent start:

Jan-17 / Jan-18 / % Change
Dom: 260,550 / 274,149 / +5.2%
TB: 62,979 / 65,721 / +4.4% - 3rd consecutive month of growth. Still 7k below 2015's January record
Int'l: 58,243 / 56,666 / -2.7% - Reflective of WS' cuts. Still a whopping 17k below 2012's record
TTL: 381,772 / 396,536 / +3.9% - still 3k below 2012's January record

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2017
Dom: 3,827,271 / +0.4%
TB: 650,316 / +0.4%
Int'l: 376,854 / -0.4%
TTL: 4,854,441 / +0.3%

mxg308 · #**2733** Posted **Feb 15, 2018, 4:02 PM**

Those TB numbers look good. Hopefully with AA re-adding their 3rd daily in May to PHL we can at least hold those numbers. I'm still hopeful that Delta adds a 2nd daily to LGA even if it's just summer seasonal maybe? I mean in a dream world DL would add to ATL and AA to CLT but with our Airport Authority I guess we should just be happy we got the 3x to PHL again.

Dominion301 · #**2734** Posted **Feb 15, 2018, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by mxg308

Those TB numbers look good. Hopefully with AA re-adding their 3rd daily in May to PHL we can at least hold those numbers. I'm still hopeful that Delta adds a 2nd daily to LGA even if it's just summer seasonal maybe? I mean in a dream world DL would add to ATL and AA to CLT but with our Airport Authority I guess we should just be happy we got the 3x to PHL again.

In a double dream world AA brings back ORD 2x on E170s/175s, WS brings back seasonal LAS, PD adds a seasonal MYR on Saturdays and AA launches year-round MIA. Hopefully if there's a strong winter to Florida that AC brings back year-round Saturday service to FLL, in addition to their weekend MCO flying.

mxg308 · #**2735** Posted **Feb 18, 2018, 10:25 PM**

It appears as of May 1st Air Canada is upgauging YOW-YYC from E190 to 319 on both daily flights.

MountainView · #**2736** Posted **Feb 19, 2018, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by mxg308

It appears as of May 1st Air Canada is upgauging YOW-YYC from E190 to 319 on both daily flights.

That's correct. To add, in peak season (end June through summer) then will have 3x daily as they have in the past and will all be 319s including the red-eye to YOW.

Also when YOW-YEG goes 2x daily this summer the afternoon flight to YEG and the red-eye to YOW will be 319s. Also the morning flight to YVR will be a 321 and the 3rd flight to YOW will be a 321 with the other 2 flights being 319s.

A nice little upgrade from the usual E90s on the Alberta routes.

Dominion301 · #**2737** Posted **Feb 20, 2018, 7:03 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainView

That's correct. To add, in peak season (end June through summer) then will have 3x daily as they have in the past and will all be 319s including the red-eye to YOW.

Also when YOW-YEG goes 2x daily this summer the afternoon flight to YEG and the red-eye to YOW will be 319s. Also the morning flight to YVR will be a 321 and the 3rd flight to YOW will be a 321 with the other 2 flights being 319s.

A nice little upgrade from the usual E90s on the Alberta routes.

That is nice and offsets slight capacity drop to YVR which was 3x 320s last summer vs 2x 319 + 1x 321 this summer. The only other small drop I see is YOW-YFC stays as a DH1 this summer vs last summer's upgauge to a CRJ. However, this is offset by PD operating to YFC this summer vs no service last summer (they launched YFC in mid-September).

YOW-YUL is showing as only 7x (was 8x last summer), but only 1 flight is on a DH1 and a mainline E90 is back for this summer (was all Jazz last summer as I recall).

On Rapidair, 18x are shown just like last summer but with far fewer E90s. Checking Monday, July 23rd I see:
E90: 11x-12x (was 16x at the start of last summer and became 15x in July)
319: 1x (was 0x last summer)
320: 4x-5x (was 1x at the start of last summer and became 2x in July) EDIT: later in July there are 5x 320s shown.
763: 1x (same as last summer)

EDIT: Flight frequency on Saturdays is 15x and on Sundays 16x. All 319/320/763 operate on those days, so only E90 flights are reduced with zero E75s listed on weekends.

So that's essentially an upgauge of 4-5 E90s to 319/320s.

Here's another upaguge: YYT for the first time in years is an E90 vs. CRA...no doubt due to WS withdrawing from the route.

Everything else appears to be the same capacity, including the continued weekend service to MCO (no FLL again this summer). Overall though this is without a doubt AC's biggest capacity boost at YOW in years. 4.9 million will be easily reached with this.

The one place that is still screaming for more capacity is YOW-YWG. AC are operating 3x this summer on YUL-YWG, including 1x CRA + 2x 320s!

JCL · #**2738** Posted **Feb 21, 2018, 4:45 PM**

Heads up!

An Antonov 124, flight ADB278F (Antonov 278 Foxtrot) from Toronto-Pearson to Montreal-Mirabel has diverted here in Ottawa: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...500Z/CYYZ/CYOW

A flight plan has just been filed to depart at 12 noon (whether it will make it, we'll see): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...700Z/CYOW/CYMX

Dominion301 · #**2739** Posted **Feb 21, 2018, 5:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by JCL

Heads up!

An Antonov 124, flight ADB278F (Antonov 278 Foxtrot) from Toronto-Pearson to Montreal-Mirabel has diverted here in Ottawa: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...500Z/CYYZ/CYOW

A flight plan has just been filed to depart at 12 noon (whether it will make it, we'll see): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...700Z/CYOW/CYMX

I wonder if it diverted due to fog at YMX?

MountainView · #**2740** Posted **Feb 21, 2018, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

I wonder if it diverted due to fog at YMX?

My guess is yes. The DL flight from LGA-YOW was diverted to Rochester last night. And earlier in the week the FedEx from YMX to YOW was diverted to YYZ due to fog.