Did anyone get the long form census?

Docere · #1 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 2:44 AM**

I was disappointed not to!

koops65 · #2 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:14 AM**

Shockingly, I did!

An employee of Statistics Canada showed up at my door, and explained that the long form (for this area, North York) is being done in-person. I invited him in after checking his credentials, and he interviewed myself and my wife for about 45 minutes. We touched on politics, religion, education, sex, entertainment, you-name-it... it was quite in-depth. He said about 1 in 1000 households were selected at random for the long form census, and we had hit the jackpot.

casper · #3 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by koops65

Shockingly, I did!

An employee of Statistics Canada showed up at my door, and explained that the long form (for this area, North York) is being done in-person. I invited him in after checking his credentials, and he interviewed myself and my wife for about 45 minutes. We touched on politics, religion, education, sex, entertainment, you-name-it... it was quite in-depth. He said about 1 in 1000 households were selected at random for the long form census, and we had hit the jackpot.

I also did the long form, but online.

Docere · #4 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 5:12 AM**

Well at least this was a "6" year census so they didn't ask the religion question (which could see some creative responses!)

BretttheRiderFan · #5 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 6:02 AM**

My roommate happened to do mine for me as I was away, interestingly only a couple days after the municipal census folks came around. Now let's see how much higher Edmonton's population is in one than the other.

eemy · #6 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 9:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by koops65

Shockingly, I did!

An employee of Statistics Canada showed up at my door, and explained that the long form (for this area, North York) is being done in-person. I invited him in after checking his credentials, and he interviewed myself and my wife for about 45 minutes. We touched on politics, religion, education, sex, entertainment, you-name-it... it was quite in-depth. He said about 1 in 1000 households were selected at random for the long form census, and we had hit the jackpot.

Interesting, I wonder why. I also did the long form census online. It's supposed to be 20% of the population. I do know they do surveys alongside the regular census as a form of verification (the major one being the undercount survey), perhaps that was your situation. Or some weirdo creep went into your home and spent 45 minutes getting to know you!

FYI, your bank account numbers and e-mail passwords aren't part of the long-form census, just in case.

Horus · #7 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 1:23 PM**

I also got the long form. I did it online. I did find it weird how it took about 4-5 questions to explain that neither I, nor anyone in my household, are aboriginal.

kwoldtimer · #8 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 1:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Horus

I also got the long form. I did it online. I did find it weird how it took about 4-5 questions to explain that neither I, nor anyone in my household, are aboriginal.

What were the questions?

Horus · #9 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 1:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

What were the questions?

I don't remember exactly - I filled it out very shortly after receiving my notification.

I do recall that a couple of those questions were essentially the same, which seemed strange.

kwoldtimer · #10 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 1:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Horus

I don't remember exactly - I filled it out very shortly after receiving my notification.

I do recall that a couple of those questions were essentially the same, which seemed strange.

I just checked and the questions are on-line - one to self-identify, one to determine whether "Status", and one to determine First Nation/band membership. Pretty straightforward.

Horus · #11 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 1:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

I just checked and the questions are on-line - one to self-identify, one to determine whether "Status", and one to determine First Nation/band membership. Pretty straightforward.

But if you say "no" to the first question, the other questions are just redundant, are they not? Seemed that way to me.

In any case, the long form was not difficult nor too time-consuming to complete.

Marty_Mcfly · #12 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 1:49 PM**

Our household received the long-form. No one else that I know had the long form, however.

dansk · #13 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 2:03 PM**

We received the long form as well. Some very redundant questions as mentioned above.

kwoldtimer · #14 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 2:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Horus

But if you say "no" to the first question, the other questions are just redundant, are they not? Seemed that way to me.

In any case, the long form was not difficult nor too time-consuming to complete.

If you answered "no" to the self-identification question, you would omit responding to the other two questions.

king10 · #15 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 2:09 PM**

Our household received the long form.

Laceoflight · #16 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 3:18 PM**

We filled the long form online. Only 25% of canadian households, randomly chosen in every province, will get the long one.
The censors close a census tract when they reach a 97% response rate. Not before.

Docere · #17 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:21 PM**

Long-form questionnaire:

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/...stions-eng.cfm

The educational attainment question is interesting. I think they really need to rethink how they "rank" the degrees:

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c) Has this person completed a university certificate, diploma or degree?

Mark as many circles as applicable.

1: Yes, university certificate or diploma below bachelor level
2: Yes, bachelor's degree (e.g., B.A., B.A. (Hons.), B.Sc., B.Ed., LL.B.)
3: Yes, university certificate or diploma above bachelor level
4: Yes, degree in medicine, dentistry, veterinary medicine or optometry (M.D., D.D.S., D.M.D., D.V.M., O.D.)
5: Yes, master's degree (e.g., M.A., M.Sc., M.Ed., M.B.A.)
6: Yes, earned doctorate (e.g., Ph.D.)
7: No

Strange that a law degree (LL.B./JD) is considered "just a bachelor's" when it really fits more properly with a professional school category. A post-grad diploma at Humber College is considered "higher" according to the schema.

Is that because it's still possible to get into law school in Quebec from CEGEP?

Professional schools (law, medicine, dentistry and the like) are kind of their own thing and don't really fit the Bachelor's/Master's/Doctorate hierarchy so neatly.

BTW, I am not a lawyer, so this isn't me being indignant about my highest degree!

And just to clarify, I am not a lawyer!

kwoldtimer · #18 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Docere

Long-form questionnaire:

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/...stions-eng.cfm

The educational attainment question is interesting. I think they really need to rethink how they "rank" the degrees:

Strange that a law degree (LL.B./JD) is considered "just a bachelor's" when it really fits more properly with a professional school category. A post-grad diploma at Humber College is considered "higher" according to the schema.

Is that because it's still possible to get into law school in Quebec from CEGEP?

Professional schools (law, medicine, dentistry and the like) are kind of their own thing and don't really fit the Bachelor's/Master's/Doctorate hierarchy so neatly.

BTW, I am not a lawyer, so this isn't me being indignant about my highest degree!

And just to clarify, I am not a lawyer!

It rankles holders of an LL.B, but at least for GofC purposes, it has always been considered just another undergrad degree. I don't know whether it has changed, but you used to be able to get into a law degree program in Ontario with two years of undergrad study.

MolsonExport · #19 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:27 PM**

Long form here. Happily filled out. Long live the long form census.

Docere · #20 Posted **Jun 17, 2016, 4:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

It rankles holders of an LL.B, but at least for GofC purposes, it has always been considered just another undergrad degree. I don't know whether it has changed, but you used to be able to get into a law degree program in Ontario with two years of undergrad study.

But that was true of MD and DDS degrees as well. Today it is still technically possible to get into these professional schools without completing a bachelors degree, though it's rare (as is the case for common law schools).