Tanger Outlets Ottawa [8555 Campeau Dr] | Completed

[Marshsparrow]

Is Ottawa getting a Nordstrom Rack - those are amazing stores with great deals!

[1overcosc]

Last I heard there is one opening up in the Trainyards.

[canabiz]

I guess it will be a while before we got a Rack here. The first Rack in Canada will open in Toronto in 2018.

I have never been to one, is it similar to Saks Off Fifth but more selections and better prices?

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300220371.html

[SkeggsEggs]

It looks like Roots will be opening a store in Tanger soon, this likely means that the Centrum location is not long for this world. Marshals is also open now near the Saks building I believe. As well a Candy shop is now open. Only went to go to a specific store so there may be other new stores. Seemed pretty busy today!

[citydwlr]

According to the David's Tea website, they are opening a location at the Tanger Outlets:
https://davidstea.csod.com/ats/caree...&source=indeed

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by citydwlr

According to the David's Tea website, they are opening a location at the Tanger Outlets:
https://davidstea.csod.com/ats/caree...&source=indeed

So are they going to sell their seconds that aren't good enough for the regular stores or will they do like most retailers at the outlets do and make special outlet versions of their products that are of lower quality?

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by roger1818

So are they going to sell their seconds that aren't good enough for the regular stores or will they do like most retailers at the outlets do and make special outlet versions of their products that are of lower quality?

I've often wondered to what extent consumers are aware that that is how many of these places operate?

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

I've often wondered to what extent consumers are aware that that is how many of these places operate?

From the studies I have seen, very few.

[citydwlr]

Originally Posted by roger1818

So are they going to sell their seconds that aren't good enough for the regular stores or will they do like most retailers at the outlets do and make special outlet versions of their products that are of lower quality?

I've been to the location at the Niagara Premium Outlets, and it's basically a regular David's Tea, but they might have a few more discounts on seasonal teas or other products (Tea pots, mugs, etc...).

[Harley613]

I'm pretty sure it will be a standard David's Tea haha....It's not like the Subway at Tanger is selling unsold meat and buns from other Subways. The food/drink are not outlets.

[rocketphish]

Tanger Outlets wants to open on most stat holidays, but labour council will fight it

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Aug 24, 2020 • Last Updated 13 hours ago • 3 minute read



Ottawa shoppers could have more options for spending money on most statutory holidays as city staff back a major retail centre’s application to be open, rankling the local labour council.

RioCan Management, which runs the Tanger Outlets on Campeau Drive, has asked the city to allow all stores at the shopping centre to be open on New Year’s Day, Family Day, Victoria Day, Canada Day, Labour Day and Thanksgiving Day, a report for city council says.

City council holds the key to allowing businesses to open on statutory holidays, even though a provincial law governs retail shopping days.

City staff support RioCan’s request since it meets the provincial requirements for an exemption.

The Ottawa and District Labour Council is already prepared to fight if city council endorses RioCan’s application.

Sean McKenny, president of the labour council, said he’s disheartened, but not surprised, to hear about another application to allow holiday shopping.

The labour council in 2016 fought city council’s decision to allow holiday shopping in the Glebe, but a provincial tribunal rejected the labour group’s appeal.

McKenny said if city council next month sides with RioCan and allows holiday shopping at Tanger Outlets, the labour council will appeal the decision.

“There are a certain number of stat holidays that would allow families to spend together,” McKenny said Monday. “That was the whole design of (the provincial law) so that families could spend time together. Little by little that gets pulled away.”

The city already has seven bylaws allowing shopping on statutory holidays in separate districts. They include the Ottawa International Airport, Sparks Street, the Glebe (including Lansdowne Park), ByWard Market, a 53-block district around Rideau Street, the Rideau Centre and the Loblaws on Rideau Street.

The airport in 2018 was the most recent district to receive approval for shopping on all statutory holidays. The other six are allowed to be open on all holidays except Good Friday, Easter Sunday and Christmas Day.

The law gives automatic exemptions to small stores and several other business categories, like restaurants and gas stations.

The key part of the provincial law that opens the door to more holiday shopping is the proximity to tourist hotspots. The districts or stores need to be in a two-kilometre radius of a tourist attraction and one-quarter of the stores must rely on the tourist attraction for business that would come on the holidays.

In the case of Tanger Outlets, the city points out the shopping centre is near the Canadian Tire Centre, Bell Sensplex and Thunderbird Sports Centre.

The 350,000 square feet of retail space that would receive the holiday exemption are serviced by about 315 employees, according to the city’s report, which also notes that Tanger Outlets has about 1,200 employees at the lowest shopping period of the year.

There’s a hint in the city report on the Tanger Outlets application that the city is up for allowing more holiday shopping in response to the economic blow caused by the pandemic.

“Staff agree that, considering the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and the challenges that it brings to the tourism and retail economies, the exemption bylaw would also help provide economic recovery assistance to the Tanger Outlets and, by extension, the local economy,” the report says.

On the other hand, McKenny argued that the pandemic is a reason for not allowing expanded holiday shopping.

“It’s exposing these workers to another day of being confronted with COVID-19,” McKenny said.

As for the prospect of workers being able to pick up extra shifts when the shifts might not have been available in recent months, McKenny said the province has advanced the economic reopening to a point where most workers have returned to their jobs.

Once city council approves a bylaw allowing holiday shopping for a district, those stat holidays are gone for good for workers in that retail area, McKenny said.

The city is required to hold a public meeting on an application to allow holiday shopping. The Sept. 1 finance and economic development committee meeting, during which councillors will consider the application before making a recommendation to council, will be the public meeting. A recommendation will be in front of council on Sept. 9.

jwilling@postmedia.com
twitter.com/JonathanWilling

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...-72311d73ed61/

[J.OT13]

The airport makes a whole lot of sense because it's open and busy all year (pre-Covid). The other districts are tourist areas, so logically they will be open. The Glebe is border line; a little outside the traditional tourist area, no hotels. No so sure it should be open.

Tanger is a generic outlet mall in the suburbs. Other than maybe a few tourists who stay at nearby hotels, no one comes to Ottawa specifically to visit an outlet mall in the boonies. If this request is approved, might as well just open up all malls and big box stores.

Tanger might have a case for January 1st due to the Bell Capital Cup, but that's it.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

The airport makes a whole lot of sense because it's open and busy all year (pre-Covid). The other districts are tourist areas, so logically they will be open. The Glebe is border line; a little outside the traditional tourist area, no hotels. No so sure it should be open.

Tanger is a generic outlet mall in the suburbs. Other than maybe a few tourists who stay at nearby hotels, no one comes to Ottawa specifically to visit an outlet mall in the boonies. If this request is approved, might as well just open up all malls and big box stores.

Tanger might have a case for January 1st due to the Bell Capital Cup, but that's it.

Eventually, everything will be open all the time. Including on Christmas day. The trendline is there.

[MountainView]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

The airport makes a whole lot of sense because it's open and busy all year (pre-Covid). The other districts are tourist areas, so logically they will be open. The Glebe is border line; a little outside the traditional tourist area, no hotels. No so sure it should be open.

Tanger is a generic outlet mall in the suburbs. Other than maybe a few tourists who stay at nearby hotels, no one comes to Ottawa specifically to visit an outlet mall in the boonies. If this request is approved, might as well just open up all malls and big box stores.

Tanger might have a case for January 1st due to the Bell Capital Cup, but that's it.

I have friends who visit from St. Catherines, Barrie, and Kingston, and every time they are here, even if its just for the weekend, they always want to try and get to the Outlet Mall. People like shopping and the "outlet" implies that items may be cheaper. There is also a fairly large selection of stores at Tanger.

But I agree... if you open Tanger on holidays, where does it stop after this?

[caboose]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

The airport makes a whole lot of sense because it's open and busy all year (pre-Covid). The other districts are tourist areas, so logically they will be open. The Glebe is border line; a little outside the traditional tourist area, no hotels. No so sure it should be open.

Tanger is a generic outlet mall in the suburbs. Other than maybe a few tourists who stay at nearby hotels, no one comes to Ottawa specifically to visit an outlet mall in the boonies. If this request is approved, might as well just open up all malls and big box stores.

Tanger might have a case for January 1st due to the Bell Capital Cup, but that's it.

I would disagree with the part about no one coming to Ottawa for an outlet mall. I have made many trips to Vaughan specifically to go to Vaughan Mills. I'm sure there are people from smaller towns close to Ottawa who would visit for shopping now that there is the Tanger mall there.

[The Conductor]

I support it being open as they wish

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Tanger Outlets wants to open on most stat holidays, but labour council will fight it

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Aug 24, 2020 • Last Updated 13 hours ago • 3 minute read



Ottawa shoppers could have more options for spending money on most statutory holidays as city staff back a major retail centre’s application to be open, rankling the local labour council.

RioCan Management, which runs the Tanger Outlets on Campeau Drive, has asked the city to allow all stores at the shopping centre to be open on New Year’s Day, Family Day, Victoria Day, Canada Day, Labour Day and Thanksgiving Day, a report for city council says.

City council holds the key to allowing businesses to open on statutory holidays, even though a provincial law governs retail shopping days.

City staff support RioCan’s request since it meets the provincial requirements for an exemption.

The Ottawa and District Labour Council is already prepared to fight if city council endorses RioCan’s application.

Sean McKenny, president of the labour council, said he’s disheartened, but not surprised, to hear about another application to allow holiday shopping.

The labour council in 2016 fought city council’s decision to allow holiday shopping in the Glebe, but a provincial tribunal rejected the labour group’s appeal.

McKenny said if city council next month sides with RioCan and allows holiday shopping at Tanger Outlets, the labour council will appeal the decision.

“There are a certain number of stat holidays that would allow families to spend together,” McKenny said Monday. “That was the whole design of (the provincial law) so that families could spend time together. Little by little that gets pulled away.”

The city already has seven bylaws allowing shopping on statutory holidays in separate districts. They include the Ottawa International Airport, Sparks Street, the Glebe (including Lansdowne Park), ByWard Market, a 53-block district around Rideau Street, the Rideau Centre and the Loblaws on Rideau Street.

The airport in 2018 was the most recent district to receive approval for shopping on all statutory holidays. The other six are allowed to be open on all holidays except Good Friday, Easter Sunday and Christmas Day.

The law gives automatic exemptions to small stores and several other business categories, like restaurants and gas stations.

The key part of the provincial law that opens the door to more holiday shopping is the proximity to tourist hotspots. The districts or stores need to be in a two-kilometre radius of a tourist attraction and one-quarter of the stores must rely on the tourist attraction for business that would come on the holidays.

In the case of Tanger Outlets, the city points out the shopping centre is near the Canadian Tire Centre, Bell Sensplex and Thunderbird Sports Centre.

The 350,000 square feet of retail space that would receive the holiday exemption are serviced by about 315 employees, according to the city’s report, which also notes that Tanger Outlets has about 1,200 employees at the lowest shopping period of the year.

There’s a hint in the city report on the Tanger Outlets application that the city is up for allowing more holiday shopping in response to the economic blow caused by the pandemic.

“Staff agree that, considering the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and the challenges that it brings to the tourism and retail economies, the exemption bylaw would also help provide economic recovery assistance to the Tanger Outlets and, by extension, the local economy,” the report says.

On the other hand, McKenny argued that the pandemic is a reason for not allowing expanded holiday shopping.

“It’s exposing these workers to another day of being confronted with COVID-19,” McKenny said.

As for the prospect of workers being able to pick up extra shifts when the shifts might not have been available in recent months, McKenny said the province has advanced the economic reopening to a point where most workers have returned to their jobs.

Once city council approves a bylaw allowing holiday shopping for a district, those stat holidays are gone for good for workers in that retail area, McKenny said.

The city is required to hold a public meeting on an application to allow holiday shopping. The Sept. 1 finance and economic development committee meeting, during which councillors will consider the application before making a recommendation to council, will be the public meeting. A recommendation will be in front of council on Sept. 9.

jwilling@postmedia.com
twitter.com/JonathanWilling

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...-72311d73ed61/

[caboose]

Originally Posted by The Conductor

I support it being open as they wish

I was out there today to go to Princess Auto. There's now a hotel across the street from Tanger, and there's some new construction to the north and west, which according to the City of Ottawa is to be an office space.

[The Conductor]

Originally Posted by caboose

I was out there today to go to Princess Auto. There's now a hotel across the street from Tanger, and there's some new construction to the north and west, which according to the City of Ottawa is to be an office space.

I know a lot of families who travel to Ottawa from New Brunswick and Nova Scotia and they generally include a visit to Tanger's because they love the outlet shopping

[J.OT13]

The exemption was approved by FEDCO.

Brockington asked if they had numbers supporting the fact that they have a high amount of tourists. They don't. All anecdotal, like how they receive angry emails and phone calls from out-of-towners who drive all the way to Kanata assuming they are open on Stats.

Of course, when the guy from the Labour Council speaks, a few Councillors tune-out. Darouze turns around to his second screen, probably attacking people on Facebook.

Out of 77 business in the mall, only 5 were including on the letter of support for Stat holiday opening. For such a application, you should get testimony from a majority of businesses and a certain amount of employees supporting the move.

Labour laws are in place for a reason. Any request for exemptions should be highly scrutinized and come with, at minimum, numbers supporting the claim that it's the area is highly visited by out-of-towners.

[MountainView]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

The exemption was approved by FEDCO.

Brockington asked if they had numbers supporting the fact that they have a high amount of tourists. They don't. All anecdotal, like how they receive angry emails and phone calls from out-of-towners who drive all the way to Kanata assuming they are open on Stats.

Of course, when the guy from the Labour Council speaks, a few Councillors tune-out. Darouze turns around to his second screen, probably attacking people on Facebook.

Out of 77 business in the mall, only 5 were including on the letter of support for Stat holiday opening. For such a application, you should get testimony from a majority of businesses and a certain amount of employees supporting the move.

Labour laws are in place for a reason. Any request for exemptions should be highly scrutinized and come with, at minimum, numbers supporting the claim that it's the area is highly visited by out-of-towners.

Can't the other 72 businesses just decide to close? Just because the outlet mall is open, doesn't mean the businesses all need to be open?

Back in the day when I worked retail to help get through university, I enjoyed working the odd holiday because it paid 1.5x my wage. I would hope that businesses that do open, would consult employees and see who wants to work on that day first before scheduling other people.