noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

Flooding in the area of Pico Blvd. and Mullin Ave. in 1936.


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The building on the northeast corner of Pico & Mullin is still there.


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-but all the buildings on the opposite side of Pico are gone. -replaced by a giant Lowe's Home Improvement

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so I believe the Sikking Printing building is gone.



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there are some nice art deco touches on the building at the corner.

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this one is still a mystery.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

...and here's another sequence. (the bus number is different, so i'm not sure if this is the same street)


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note the building with the cartouche and ornament (painted over in blue)


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the cartouche building is further down the street now. (far right)


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Is this a Desmonds sign? It looks like the same type/font used by the department store.

These stores are also on Pacific Boulevard, just south of the Woolworths/Bank of America location. They're right opposite the soon-to-be-demolished Warner Huntington Park Theatre which DTLAdenizen posted about in December.

As far as I can work out, the stores in the screengrabs were (from right to left):

Holiday Shoes
Hal's Gift & Greeting Card Shop
Comar's Children's Shoes
Karl's Shoe Stores Ltd
Candys Dress Shop
Happy Child

I'm not sure which store the "...DS" sign belongs to, but there was a Montgomery Ward at that location in the '50s and '60s CDs that I checked. I can't find a build date for that building, but it's either been substantially remodeled or replaced since the pictures above.


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[ethereal_reality]

Ahh..there's the street! -good sleuthing Hoss. -I see the 'cartouche' building has survived. (as well as most of the others)

Originally Posted by HossC

Here's a postcard showing a view I don't remember seeing before. It's looking down New High Street towards Court Street with the tower of the Times Building in the background.
The seller dates it at 1908.


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This is how the area appears on the 1910 Baist map.


www.historicmapworks.com

HossC, when i first saw your post, I knew I had a similar photograph but couldn't find it in all my disorganized files.

Well I finally found it.


below: Looking down New High street toward Franklin St.


detail


-the above view is from this photograph.


old file of mine dated 2012 (I always meant to post this but never did)

notice the "San Diego Beer" blade sign on the corner...as well as a sign advertising "Oak Bar". I'm unsure about the cut-off building plaque K R OK L.



-and if you look closely, there is a WELCOME sign on the courthouse tower.







-a glimpse of several buildings on the opposite side of the courthouse (on Broadway). -also, note the "New" sign on the utility pole at far right (for New High Street)






a detail of the steps, with Celtic-looking ornament engraved in stone. (oh, and two lions)



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[tovangar2]

Here's one to ponder:


c.c. pierce / usc digital library

We're looking north on Hill Street in 1908, the year before the first bore of the Hill Street tunnel was put through and the 1st St cut widened (that work won't be finished for years). The pavement ends as Hill Street ascends Court Hill as a country lane. The Highland Villa (upper left) is in a somewhat precarious position at this point. The Bixby house is at upper right.



Cut to 1955:

Originally Posted by kznyc2k

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That appears to be the New Broadway Hotel, which climbed the hill with Court Flight, on the right, meaning, I suppose, that the "grade too steep for horses" lasted longer than the hill itself.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I can picture you on that balcony T2.
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LOL, yes, even born tomboys have a princess moment every once in a while :-)

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

More Compton? During wartime?
(Source indicates Circa 1940, Long Beach) I may be wrong but wouldn't gas rationing have generally commenced in May '42? Was LA an exception?)




http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/5642/rec/46







http://www.prewarbuick.com/img/featu...w/b80ac2c0.jpg


Rationing >>>> http://www.prewarbuick.com/features/...r_is_a_war_now

Perhaps gas rationing in Los Angeles was more "relaxed" than in other areas.


http://blog.rarenewspapers.com/wp-co...ittle-Raid.jpg

[ethereal_reality]

ad for "Hillview Garage" in the trade magazine Hollywood Filmograph, 1932.


-Hollywood/filmography

I'm not sure why this rather insignificant ad caught my eye

but it sure was fun to discover the garage building is still there, in the back of a building that fronts on Hollywood Blvd.


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below: looking north along Hudson Ave. as it curves around a house.


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I'd love to go in there and look around. -maybe find a long lost vintage car.....or a dead body or two.
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[Krell58]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

That's a wonderful shot of the old Bunker Hill steps. When we were little, my sister and I used to play princesses on the balcony at the top, benignly waving to our "subjects" below:


Huntington Digital Library (detail)

The photo makes a great pair with the shot of the interior flights of the old steps Beaudry gifted us with last New Years' Eve. I'd guess at least 40 years separates the two photos:

On the left side of the photo is a lady on the sidewalk next to the line of parked cars. Does anyone know if there was another set of stairs there that led down to Flower Street?

[ethereal_reality]

I came across this slide earlier this evening.

"Los Angeles Pacific Electric Streetcar Venice Blvd. Vintage Cars '40s Vintage Slide"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-...item541a6783f1

So where is this exactly? -note the graceful curve in the street.-that should help
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[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Krell58

On the left side of the photo is a lady on the sidewalk next to the line of parked cars. Does anyone know if there was another set of stairs there that led down to Flower Street?

I don't recall one. The Sunkist Building went in four years after that photo was taken. Please remember Hope Street was a block away from Flower.

The first access to Bunker Hill from the west, north of W 5th St, that I can recall at the moment was at W 3rd St on both sides of the tunnel entrance. Did W 4th St run up Bunker Hill as it does now?

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I came across this slide earlier this evening.

"Los Angeles Pacific Electric Streetcar Venice Blvd. Vintage Cars '40s Vintage Slide"


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-...item541a6783f1

So where is this exactly? -note the graceful curve in the street.-that should help
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The color shot looks east on Venice at Hope; the same building is there on the NE corner, but with a coat of stucco:

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[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

Perhaps gas rationing in Los Angeles was more "relaxed" than in other areas.


http://blog.rarenewspapers.com/wp-co...ittle-Raid.jpg

Speaking of Jimmy Doolittle, he spent part of his childhood at 1235 S. Catalina Street. (House is MIA)




http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...ly_15-26-a.jpg

http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...ind_15-4-a.jpg


http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...tle_15-4-e.jpg





http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...le_46-12-a.jpg


June 1, 1942 - Doolittle visits North American plant (Inglewood?)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics29/00049402.jpg




http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...le_21-73-a.jpg


http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...e_20-103-a.jpg


http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...n_20-105-a.jpg




1945 - 17 gun salute from Fort Moore for Doolittle and Patton
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics49/00074417.jpg


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091206.jpg




June 1945, Patton and Doolittle Parade through DTLA
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4QfAVhrW2j...tton+in+LA.jpg




And a Santa Monica connection.

233 Marguerita Avenue (Still there)
http://www.doolittleraider.com/raide...e_12-100-c.jpg




See also FredH's similar post: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5602

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

The color shot looks east on Venice at Hope; the same building is there on the NE corner, but with a coat of stucco:


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Thanks Flyingwedge! -the vintage slide had me stumped.

-with your help, I now recognize the tall building in the distance as the old Frank Wiggins Trade School at Venice and Olive.


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below: Here is a better view of the trade school. (minus the roof-top sign)









The building still stands, but it has been covered with a 'modernized' façade (seriously, someone needs to rip that sh*t off)


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An earlier post on the Frank Wiggins Trade School. -with additional photographs
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20323

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[Otis Criblecoblis]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The building still stands, but it has been covered with a 'modernized' façade (seriously, someone needs to rip that sh*t off)


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An earlier post on the Frank Wiggins Trade School. -with additional photographs
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20323

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This building has always reminded me of Scrooge McDuck's money bin.

(comicvine.com)

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Krell58

On the left side of the photo is a lady on the sidewalk next to the line of parked cars. Does anyone know if there was another set of stairs there that led down to Flower Street?

Originally Posted by tovangar2

I don't recall one. The Sunkist Building went in four years after that photo was taken. Please remember Hope Street was a block away from Flower.

The first access to Bunker Hill from the west, north of W 5th St, that I can recall at the moment was at W 3rd St on both sides of the tunnel entrance. Did W 4th St run up Bunker Hill as it does now?

As tovangar2 said, Flower Street was a block away, but there used to be some stairs from Flower Street up to the 4th Street stub (Castle Towers, Hildreth Mansion etc.). The detail below is from a 1916 image which I originally posted in
post #23483.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Having said that, this later detail shot from the same post shows that the stairs had already gone by the time the Edison Building was under construction (visible in the full picture).


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

We've covered it several times before, but this area was changed beyond recognition when the 4th Street Cut was put through.

[Slauson Slim]

Gen. Doolittle attended Manual Arts High School.

[tovangar2]

Thank you HossC. I had forgotten the great cliff below the W 4th St stub. The current triple roadway arrangement of W 4th St wiped out so much.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

...ad for "Hillview Garage" in the trade magazine Hollywood Filmograph, 1932...
but it sure was fun to discover the garage building is still there, in the back of a building that fronts on Hollywood Blvd.

I'd love to go in there and look around.....and maybe find some long lost vintage cars
or a dead body or two.
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You'd better hurry, I think there's big changes coming to Hudson Ave. They are asking and getting the most incredible prices there. A 1911 two-story sold for over two million in 2011. The oldest home I noticed is a dear little 1905 cottage. Across from your garage is the very plain north end of the gorgeous Hillview Apartments (1917), which fronts on the Boulevard. One can see the back of the 1902 Janes house peeking out from behind it from one's googlemobile. I think the Hillview Garage must have originally been the parking for the the Hillview Apartments. The building's current parking lot used to be the pool area and gardens.

Hollywood & Hudson, 1924:

Martin Turnbull

[ethereal_reality]

thanks for the additional information tovanger2.

-just for fun, here's the Hillview apts. today. (what is that on top...a modern 'sculpture'?)


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The Hillview Garage at left, the Hillview Apts. center, and the Janes house at right, from the curve on Hudson Ave.


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What's up with that old Hotel Juniper sign in the back of the Janes house? anyone know/


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[tovangar2]

I'm not entirely sure. There is a bar called No Vacancy at the Hotel Juniper with a N Hudson Avenue address, but it's really the back of the Janes House. Where they got that sign, I dunno.


http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfe.../show/id/17247



I do wish the Hillview would restore its rooftop sign (I'm unsure of the vintage) as the bare framework looks a bit sad. It's not a sculpture.

Here's a glamour shot from that link I posted above. (The rooftop sign is hidden in this view):

http://jagarchitects.com/project/hil...ood-apartments



The building has a great history


And here's the 1905 cottage on N Hudson Ave with the back of the Hillview Apartments in the background:

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[T.J.P.]

Does anyone happen to know this attractive brick building?

The sign saying "Hayden Clinic" is a prop only and has nothing to do with the real purpose of the building. The screen grab is from a 1982 episode of the "Falcon Crest" TV series. The only thing I know is that the building is somewhere in Greater L.A., most likely within the usual 30-mile filming zone.

Thank you so much for your help!

[HossC]

I spotted this postcard on eBay a few days ago. Considering the Dreamland Roller Skating Rink was "The finest and largest rink in the city", I haven't had much luck finding any more information. There's a Dreamland theatre and a Dreamland dance academy in the the City Directories, but no skating rink at 12th and Main.


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This small article is from the April 19, 1906 edition of the Los Angeles Herald - the day after the San Francisco earthquake. It's only a year before the postcard above, so I'm guessing it refers to the same place.


California Digital Newspaper Collection

Just to confuse things, I also found this reference to a Dreamland Rink at 15th Street and Central Avenue. By the context, I'm guessing this was in the 1910s. It's from a book called 'Bound for Freedom: Black Los Angeles in Jim Crow America' by Douglas Flamming.


books.google.com