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Muppets probably going to argue that London (population 75 million) has more art deco skyscrapers than New York.

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derp! just so you are not going to take one commenter as all of the usa, right? a reminder i guess.

there is no question vast usa as a whole has the most art deco scattered around. not even worth discussing.

however, city by city is another story though for sure and you have certainly proved that point.

and i cannot even imagine peak deco era and then what was lost everywhere over the years.

anyway, great pics -- that was a cool shanghai surprize. ha.

Thanks. Yeah I know, I woulda loved to have seen NYC in its heyday (and from those pics posted, SF too)










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The biggie at the time of course was Tokyo as mentioned before, recently destroyed by the 1923 quake and building into the world's largest city in that era, before WWII destruction. That relatively narrow window meant most of the buildings - hundreds of thousands of them - were art deco.



https://blogs.harvard.edu/wheredisas...re/tokyo-1923/

https://pixels.com/featured/1-great-...e-granger.html





https://r.hswstatic.com

https://blogs.harvard.edu/wheredisas...re/tokyo-1923/

https://blogs.harvard.edu/wheredisas...re/tokyo-1923/


https://images.ucpress.edu


http://nickkanaya.net


http://www.oldtokyo.com/marunouchi-building/






www.persimmonous.jp


Japanese version of art deco (Meiji era)




However, the quick ad hoc nature of the rebuilding didn't always mean the best design levels - art deco today is associated with luxe but it was also applied to mass housing. Thus although Tokyo had its usual fare of the luxury new hotels, offices and civic people's palaces, it also had nondescript mass housing built quickly to house the near 2 million made homeless by the earthquake (considered the world's most destructive natural disaster to date). I was surprised by the banality of one of the rare survivors from that period - a lowrise apartment block deemed a national treasure as one of the first of the interwar examples, but obviously more by dint of its history rather than any beauty. It's a shame the real beauties didn't survive instead, such as the Imperial Hotel:


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Art Deco in Japan and China are very intriguing. I wonder how many survived in Japan; I love Tokyo but the vast majority of its building as is most Japanese cities are ugly 50's and 60's abominations.
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Yep, Japan has a strange history with its private buildings - the 'Flowers of Edo' a catastrophic disaster (earthquake, typhoon, flood, fire) that would revisit the capital on average every 25 years ensured that many people stopped building to last and developed a culture of ad hoc functionalism (and the birth of modernism that Le Courbousier came to study). These days that's been exacerbated by archaic residency and land laws - either lack of or too much, such as rules enshrined in the constitution that permit you to use or build what you want regardless of neighbours or community councils, and zoning laws that make land prices high and encourage bulldozing for new builds - but without the demographics to back em (read: temporariness).

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The pre-1945 Showa period of Japan has always fascinated me (there’s actually a great graphic novel about the history), such a contradictory era. I’d be interested to see what that surviving nondescript apartment building looks like.
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I can't find deets, but it was basically a series of low/ midrise apartment blocks, similar in feel to this:

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I can't find deets, but it was basically a series of low/ midrise apartment blocks, similar in feel to this:

If I may ask ,what building is that ?
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It's the Hara Museum of Contemporary Art, originally a private mansion from 1938

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It's the Hara Museum of Contemporary Art, originally a private mansion from 1938

The Hara Museum of Contemporary Art is beautiful
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More Art Deco in San Francisco


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1201 California St. (residential)

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1150 Union (residential)

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1850-1900 Gough (residenial)

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Buena Vista Apartments

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845 California (residential)

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Residential

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San Francisco Polytechnic High School

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San Francisco General Hospital

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Treasure Island Administration Building (military)

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Treasure Island, 1939 (demolished)

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Treasure Island, 1939 (demolished)

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Hotel Adagio (formerly El Cortez)

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1870 Pacific (residential)

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130 Montgomery (office)

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The Hamilton (residential)

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Pacific Coast Stock Exchange

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Hotel Serrano

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Clay Jones Apartments

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Central Tower (office)

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Roosevelt Junior High School

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London has some but mostly mid rises and nothing that makes a major impact on the skyline.

I think this is the tallest Art Deco Highrise In Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boerentoren
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London's is mostly midrise, no skyscrapers. They merge in styles from florid earlier examples that have hints of the arts and crafts period (such as the entrance addition to Selfridges), to the craze around Egyptology and ziggurat towers after the great archaeological finds of the 1920s (such as the Carreras Cigarette Factory), to the pared down Scandic style (read: proto fascist leanings, such as Senate House) and finally the streamlined machine age of automobiles and ocean liners, coming to moderne, ultimately one step away from modernism itself (such as the Isokon flats).

Senate House would be the tallest



but Battersea Power Station the largest - long the largest brick building (formerly it would have been the old Wembley Stadium, demolished in the '00s).


www.channelnewsasia.com


Other prominent/ famed examples:

Carreras Cigarette Factory

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk




www.buildington.co.uk,www.hankzarihs.com

www.jra.co.uk

http://dutchsampleroom.com, http://www.jannaludlow.co.uk


https://media.glassdoor.com




https://upload.wikimedia.org
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https://manchesterhistory.net

https://manchesterhistory.net


https://cdn.londonandpartners.com www.historichotelsthenandnow.com




https://www.mclarengroup.com/projects/barkers-arcade/


http://www.panoramaofthethames.com


www.mellersh.co.uk

https://thomann-hanry.co.uk/projects/the-adelphi/




http://wtpartnership.eu

www.georgetorode.com, https://memoirsofametrogirl.files.wordpress.com


https://www.flickr.com/photos/kmlivemusic/5517146752


https://i.dailymail.co.uk, www.leisureopportunities.co.uk



https://p2d7x8x2.stackpathcdn.com


https://www.realla.co.uk/m/24133-chr...8-fleet-street





https://alchetron.com, www.wowhaus.co.uk

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com




https://i.dailymail.co.uk



Isokon at right


https://manchesterhistory.net/architecture, https://experiencedtraveller.com


https://manchesterhistory.net


https://artdecocollector.files.wordpress.com



https://manchesterhistory.net




https://manchesterhistory.net


https://www.commerciallistings.cbre.co.uk


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minist...United_Kingdom)


Selfridges

Barbara Chandler https://www.flickr.com/photos/barbar...er/34343200014
https://www.dexters.co.uk/property-f...29?department=




Adam Butler, http://www.adambutlerphotography.com...nilever-house/


www.oxotower.co.uk, www.london-se1.co.uk



https://manchesterhistory.net


https://si.wsj.net


There are loads of smaller buildings dotted around of course, and nondescript apartment complexes, but those above are the 'statement' examples.

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There are also literally thousands of these - the 30s was London's biggest ever house building spree, creating its suburbs - and not very notable either

Note how the houses on the rest of the street have gotten rid of the art deco features in favour of artficial, ruralised styles:


https://i.dailymail.co.uk




And quite a number of large apartment complexes for the upper classes you wouldn't really notice is art deco unless you go inside


https://www.senatehouseevents.co.uk/...tecture-london


https://wikimedia.org


www.polpettas.com


Also a serious blight of these, mass housing for the poor:

If new, painted or restored they can look lovely



but in reality they're an instant marker to many Londoners of social deprivation (even when an ex council flat in such a building can sell at $1.5 million)


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London's is mostly midrise, no skyscrapers.




There are loads of smaller buildings dotted around of course, and nondescript apartment complexes, but those above are the 'statement' examples.


These buildings looks impressive

This one is my favourite

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Here is another London Art Deco .Adelaide House

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_House
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Oh yeah, Adelaide House, another example of the craze for everything Egyptian


https://manchesterhistory.net

Oh and the flagship Waterstone's, one of the world's largest bookstores. The building next door (on the right) was rebuilt in classical style so it would stand out more on the street:


https://assets.londonist.com

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man i have a soft spot for those lush SF lowrise deco apt bldgs.

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Here is a Art Deco stadium(Arsenal Stadium), which is also in London but it was Demolished in 2006 and redeveloped as housing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Stadium

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Yep RIP, the second massive art deco stadium to die. All the big art deco stadia/ arenas are under threat


Old Arsenal (73,000 reduced to 40,000) was redeveloped into housing




https://dunedinstadium.files.wordpress.com


Old Wembley RIP (capacity 127,000 reduced to 82,000):



Wembley Arena (12,500) survives though


https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk

But Earls Court Arena (20,000) is getting razed this year


www.cityam.com


Kensington Olympia (10,000) in the balance:


http://www.colladocollins.com/projects/olympia-central

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