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Old Posted Jul 11, 2019, 10:57 PM
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Montparnasse - Bienvenüe

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The countdown clocks seem to exaggerate the waiting time at some points.

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Old Posted Jul 12, 2019, 1:53 AM
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^ Cool. I like the video for showing our random everyday life.
I was born in there and wouldn't leave for my life. That's what I am, my own identity, and I'm proud of it.

Minato, did you hear of the latest joke? Subway drivers would occasionally go like (and only because they were asked for it by RATP top managers) - relax, take a look at individuals sitting or standing next to you, just say hi, how are you doing, and smile.

Bwaha, I find it funky in our so Parisian context. Lately, I've been more used to the RER than to the inner subway since I've been working (the métro's been slow, huh), but it sounds cool anyhow.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2019, 5:15 PM
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Can the Paris Metro Make Room for More Riders?

https://www.citylab.com/transportati...idalgo/601903/

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- After five years of unprecedented passenger growth, the Paris Metro system is now perilously close to full. According to data from transit authority RATP released this week by newspaper Le Parisien, the French capital’s subway saw its annual ridership leap between 2013 and 2018. Rising from 1.76 billion to 1.84 billion trips annually over the period, the system is now hosting a remarkable 217,837 extra trips every day compared to 2013. — The overcrowding issue is in many ways a success story, since the city’s flagship policy has been to discourage car use. While Paris has witnessed a steady drop in driving over several decades now, its current administration has been particularly intent on reshaping Parisian mobility habits, and can claim responsibility for some of the ridership spike.

- Paris is indeed already in the process of constructing a grand orbital Metro line, along ....with three other new lines and two extensions of existing links; the mega-project, dubbed the Grand Paris Express, is due to open in stages between 2020 and 2030. This major extension will mostly run through Paris’ vast suburbs, making it easier for residents of outer Paris to connect with each other without having to travel into Paris itself. — But the new Metro lines now under discussion would be different. Forming a backwards “C” shape, the link would be made up of two lines totaling 40 kilometers. Much of it would cleave closely to the line of the Boulevard Périphériquethe city’s automotive beltway and lie within the boundaries of Paris Proper

- It would also reach out beyond in its eastern section to connect the fast-gentrifying inner suburbs of Montreuil and Pantin. This, it is hoped, would alleviate pressure in central Paris in much the same way as the Grand Paris Express: By intersecting with the three busiest existing Metro lines, it would remove some of their habitual users and ensure that these lines reached the city center somewhat less packed than they are currently. — In the meantime, transit officials are working on cheaper, quicker means of easing congestion. Among the options: automating all trains, making trains larger, and bringing in experts from Japan (a nation that knows a few things about stuffing more people into trains) to help redesign access to platforms.

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Old Posted Nov 14, 2019, 6:47 PM
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This map shown is the Grand Paris Express. The new proposal traces a smaller circle, pretty much following the Peripherique or the Boulevards des Marechaux. Seems redundant with the beautiful tram lines that RATP just built...

The proposed lines are here:
http://www.leparisien.fr/resizer/Mnh...KZZCAHQGQI.jpg
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Amazing. Fantastic news for Paris.

Can anyone tell me why the U.S., a country with 10x the wealth of France, can't build anything?
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2019, 11:36 PM
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Well, Paris has possibly the world's most ideal geology for tunneling... soft limestone that is easy to cut, but is strong enough that it doesn't collapse during excavations.

Today, though, all tunneling is done with TBMs so geology doesn't really drive costs much. You just use a different kind of TBM.

I think France is just a country with an unusually strong pride in their public works. Not just transit - parks, public buildings, streetscapes, social housing, etc are all treated with a high level of design and unwavering commitment by politicians and the public.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2019, 2:11 PM
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"Par les élus communistes de Paris" (by the Commies from Central Paris).
Yeah, right, only in their dreams, to serve their very local clientèle alone.
They've got a couple of seats at the Central Paris town hall because of Anne Hidalgo's nasty political deals.
I hope she gets fired by voters for the next municipal election for that crime.

That is not the approved routes of the Grand Paris Express anyway, thankfully.
Line 15 is already under construction. Don't worry, the actual route is further down south and is to actually serve the inner suburbs that badly need it. And the whole thing is mostly funded by the Paris region, thus by locals.
Minato and I posted the approved routes a couple of times above in the thread.

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I think France is just a country with an unusually strong pride in their public works. Not just transit - parks, public buildings, streetscapes, social housing, etc are all treated with a high level of design and unwavering commitment by politicians and the public.
Mouais... There's a good sense of public services and wealth over here indeed, but if only the French had the same pride for their private sector and taxpayers that basically fund everything public in this country, and supported them with all their guts, the results would be more spectacular.
Disgusting politics just makes things much harder and slower than they should be here.
That's worse than annoying, downright criminal. Hm!
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