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Old Posted Jan 25, 2014, 4:58 AM
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Thanks! No offence to the Toronto folks but Trump looks like a POS. i think the Vancouver version will be far superior - architecturally anyway.
That's okay. Our BMO, CIBC, TD, Royal and, Scotiabank are far nicer. Also, our Trump won't stay a Trump for long so the comparison will finally end.
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^my understanding is that the hotel has been doing fantastically, and is one of the highest rated in the city. In terms of service and hotel experience it is apparently great, in terms of architecture, not so much.
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Lol, yes the service at Trump Toronto is amazing, and there are some really nice office towers from 30+ years ago. Relevance lol?

Comparing the two is moot. Trump Vancouver wasn't even supposed to be a Trump. It was a last-ditch effort to save the project, using name recognition to troll for Housewives-type buyers. Just look at how ugly all the other Trump towers have been.
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I can never understand why people compare towers just because they have the same tenant. Except in rare circumstances, the tenant has little say over design. It makes much more sense to compare towers by the same developer and/or architect.
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I always found that bizarre as well.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2014, 9:32 AM
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I like the façade of Trump Toronto.
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I like the façade of Trump Toronto.
So do I. The skinniness and crown are what ruins it.
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The Trump building is really much nicer than people say. Many do not like Trump himself. so they argue the building is bad. Yes, construction has taken far too long. Yes, the light feature should have been working ages ago. But that does not mean the building itself is bad.

It is, after all, one of Toronto's best hotels.













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None of those reasons are why it's so hated on this forum. For me it would start with your third picture, and the fact that > 1/3 of the street wall is parking entrances.
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Those auto entrances would work better in Yorkville for Bentleys and Buggatis.

Seems so out of place in the financial district.
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^my understanding is that the hotel has been doing fantastically, and is one of the highest rated in the city. In terms of service and hotel experience it is apparently great, in terms of architecture, not so much.
My post was meant to be taking in jest. Nice to see dleung too.

I have heard otherwise. They are having to discount rates to maintain occupancy.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2014, 5:31 PM
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Lol, yes the service at Trump Toronto is amazing, and there are some really nice office towers from 30+ years ago. Relevance lol?

Comparing the two is moot. Trump Vancouver wasn't even supposed to be a Trump. It was a last-ditch effort to save the project, using name recognition to troll for Housewives-type buyers. Just look at how ugly all the other Trump towers have been.
Trump Toronto wasn't to be a Trump licensed hotel condo either. It was designed as a Ritz Carlton hotel with million dollar penthouses above.
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Those auto entrances would work better in Yorkville for Bentleys and Buggatis.

Seems so out of place in the financial district.
The problem for Trump being that there was little space on the street for a covered car drop off zone a la the Ritz. But the 'high end' guests who were the target of Trump wouldn't want to get out of their vehicles without being under cover. I do t particularly like the look of what they did, but I have to admit it's practical for the locale.
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The Trump building is really much nicer than people say.
Disagree. It's clearly an embarrassing architectural disaster.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2014, 7:36 PM
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I don't think so.

But that's a personal feeling of people on urban and architectural forums. To regular people its a fancy hotel.
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I was talking about the façade not the architecture.
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The facade is probably the worst part of it. It's one thing to have to have too small of a floor plate for such a tall tower or a poorly integrated crown, but if you have quality materials and attention to detail many could probably look past it.

This has been discussed to death already so I don't think it needs to be said again. The "taller at all costs" demographic here are willing to look past Trump's shortcomings, while many of us think it is a blight on what is otherwise an extremely high quality group of buildings.
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"Blight" is a mite harsh, but the garlic-clove-and-antenna setup is unsightly. It would have been more bearable - though also more conspicuous - with the building's original dimensions. Still, thankfully Trump is barely visible from most perspectives, crowded in as it is from almost all sides.
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Disagree. It's clearly an embarrassing architectural disaster.
Agreed completely. No number of over-edited photos will ever change it. Complete disaster of spandrel and low quality shit.
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