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Old Posted Aug 24, 2010, 12:58 PM
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Some of the quasi-high speed locomotives of China,

Chinese passenger train classes

G trains (CRH), long-distance high-speed trains, Top speed 380 km/h or 350km/h
C trains (CRH), Intercity high-speed trains, Top speed 380 km/h or 350km/h
D trains (CRH), High-speed trains with top speed 250 km/h or 200km/h
Z trains, Direct Express, "non-stop" overnight train, The top speed is 160 km/h
T trains, Express, top speed 140km/h or 160 km/h
K trains, Fast, top speed 120 km/h
Rote Number 1001-5998 trains, General Fast, top speed 120km/h
Rote Number 6001-7598 trains, General, top speed 100km/h

the Z trains and T trains are so called Quasi-high speed trains (service speed 140km/h - 200km/h)

these locomotives are some times used for 120km/h trains also

DF11G "Pig head"
Manufacture by CSR Qishuyan Locomotive Co.Ltd, top speed 170km/h, currentlly there are 158 DF11G Trains on service

this picture shows a DF11G Direct Express train







DF11Z "Big Z"
Manufacture by CSR Qishuyan Locomotive Co.Ltd, top speed 160km/h, designed for Qinghai-Tibet railroad and Special train


DF11 "Lion head"
Manufacture by CSR Qishuyan Locomotive Co.Ltd, top speed 170km/h



SS7D "Little prince"

Manufacture by CNR Datong Electric Locomotive Co.Ltd, top speed 170km/h

SS7D Fast Train



SS7E "Beauty"
Manufacture by CNR Datong Electric Locomotive Co.Ltd & CNR Dalian Locomotive Do., Ltd, top speed 170km/h

SS7E Overnight Express


SS7E Express


a SS7E Deouble deck Express


New Versian SS7E 6000,6001 Express




SS8 "Sweeper"
Manufacture by CSR Zhuzhou Electric Locomotive Co.Ltd, top speed 170km/h




SS8 Overnight Express



SS9 "Frog" (Code SS90001-SS90043) & SS9G "Liqueur" (Code SS90044-)
Manufacture by CSR Zhuzhou Electric Locomotive Co.Ltd, top speed 170km/h







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DF11G "Pig head"
Manufacture by CSR Qishuyan Locomotive Co.Ltd, top speed 170km/h, currentlly there are 158 DF11G Trains on service

this picture shows a DF11G Direct Express train
lol, i wonder if it's called the Pig head because of the square in the middle of it's face.
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I was wondering the same thing too.

I'm amazed at how much better just the trackwork looks in China than in the U.S.! Reminding us yet again that the U.S. is pretty much at the rock bottom of rail investment in the developed worlds...
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I'm amazed at how much better just the trackwork looks in China than in the U.S.! Reminding us yet again that the U.S. is pretty much at the rock bottom of rail investment in the developed worlds...
Asia has been ahead for decades.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2010, 4:39 AM
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lol, i wonder if it's called the Pig head because of the square in the middle of it's face.
About the origin of the nick name, here are the most known version:

As DF11G is designed for Direct Express trains, the Chinese words for "Direct Express" is "Zhi Da Te Kuai" Simplyfied as "ZT", the Chinese word for Pig Head - Zhu Tou, could also Simplified, by initial, as "ZT", so that people started to call DF11G locomotives as "Pig head"
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If middle class is defined as the ability to afford the comforts of home (TV, DVD player, computer with internet access, mobile phone, home appliances, etc) and the ability to go out to travel for pleasure, among other things, then yes, it is middle class in western terms.
Well I must say that the lower class affords all these comforts of home which you listed here (in the USA). With perhaps the exception of travel. Lower class can't afford to travel much. Middle class might be able to have one or two weekend excursions by car, plus one longer trip by plane travel per year.

I would define middle class in western terms as someone who can upgrade their home several times in their life, save for retirement, pay to send children to college/university, own two or three cars and upgrade them every 5-6 years.

Things like TV, DVD, computer, internet, mobile phone, home appliances? Those are considered essentials in the western world, things not even the lower class tend to go without. The lower class might go without one of those essentials, such as computer/internet, but then they will have a new TV/DVD player, mobile phone, etc. If they can't afford appliances, they tend to rent an apartment which comes with basic appliances already there such as refrigerator, oven, water heater, central heating & air and then they will certainly buy a microwave oven.

This would be lower class in Western terms, unless of course you consider the lower class to only be the homeless and transient population. In Western terms, these are the lower-lower class. The middle-lower and upper-lower class all tend to have these essentials, more or less. What separates the middle class from the lower class in the USA tends to be more about home and car ownership and the ability to save for retirement and kids college education.
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Acording to this article,http://www.i0713.com/viewnews-72246.htm CRH2-101A tested at Jingjiu line (Beijing-Kowloon) Weibin-Macheng Route (660km) on July 27, 2010, it tooks 2h 40m at a average speed of 247.5km/h, the Jingjiu line is a upgrade exsiting line designed speed 200 km/h and CRH trains are expecting to enter service at this line by next year.

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^Interesting, that article describes a high-speed train as a "rainbow with thunder."
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http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90...2/7112147.html

Chinese Bridge features world's longest concrete beams

16:00, August 20, 2010

The world's longest monomer pre-stressed continuous concrete beams were installed at the Hutuo River Grand Bridge on Aug. 29.

The Hutuo River Grand Bridge has a single main span of 128 meters with 12,000 tons of swivel weight. It crosses over the Beijing-ShiJiazhuang railway section of the Beijing-Guangzhou railway, a major north-south railway artery in China.

The continuous beam broke a world record for the construction span of pre-stressed continuous twist beams and in construction technologies of a large segment of continuous twist beams among high-speed railways.

By Zhang Qian , People's Daily Online
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Changjiu Intercity Highspeed line (250km/h) & Wujiu Upgrade line (200km/h) completed, Wuhan-Nanchang CRH to be opened soon!

Changjiu Intercity line, From Nanchang-Jiujiang, 131.27 km, Designed Speed 250km/h, Together with Wujiu line, which is a upgrade pre-exsisting line, 215.93 km, Designed Speed 200km/h. completed by August 28, 2010, will open to public service by Sepetember with CRH1 & CRH2

test run on Jiujiang Lushan Station, July 29,2010. connnect station of Wujiu line and Changjiu ICH


test run on Changjiu ICH, August 19, 2010


Planned operating speed

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line                          Section            length      time  Average speed
Changjiu ICH               Nanchang-Jiujiang     131.27km    40m     197.55 km/h
Wujiu line                 Wuchang-Jiujiang      215.93km  1h20m     161.95 km/h
Wujiu line & Changjiu ICH  Wuchang-Nanchang       347.2km     2h      173.6 km/h
the Wuhan-Jiujiang PDL, 198km, designed speed 350km/h is set to open by June 30, 2013, by then, the planned operating speed between Wuchang-Nanchang will be

Code:
line                          Section            length      time  Average speed
Changjiu ICH               Nanchang-Jiujiang     131.27km    40m     197.55 km/h
Wujiu PDL                  Wuchang-Jiujiang         198km    50m     237.60 km/h
Wujiu PDL & Changjiu ICH   Wuchang-Nanchang      329.27km  1h30m     219.51 km/h

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Shanghai-Hangzhou HSR Undergoing Testing on Sepetember 1

The testing is conducted in Jia Shan and Jia Xing in Zhejiang Province. The 160km long Shanghai-Hangzhou HSR will open in October at a designed max speed of 350 km/h, cutting the traveling time to 38 minutes.





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Shijiazhuang South Station is a important junction center station in chinese high-speed rail system, will open by 2011, is links four high speed railways, Beijing-Shijiazhuang PDL, Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan PDL, Shijiazhuang-Jinan PDL & Shijiazhuang-Wuhan PDL, three conventional railway, Beijing-Guangzhou line, Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan line, Shijiazhuang-Dezhou line, and two Shjiazhuang subway lines, it has 13 railway platforms with 24 departure tracks, 2 subway platforms with 4 subway departure tracks.

the Jingshi PDL, when coming across the city, will be undergroud railways, the undergroud HSR tunnel is about










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this photo takes on the Transrapid train on the Shanghai maglev line, it only carries 8000 passengers per day and the take-up rate is no more than 20%

the main reason is the line is services between Pudong airports andHongqiao, Airports, neither of the airports could provide enough passengers for the Maglev trains
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^That Maglev line is basically a test run for a line that one day may run from Shanghai to Beijing.
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this photo takes on the Transrapid train on the Shanghai maglev line, it only carries 8000 passengers per day and the take-up rate is no more than 20%

the main reason is the line is services between Pudong airports andHongqiao, Airports, neither of the airports could provide enough passengers for the Maglev trains
Not to mention that with Metro Line 2 now connecting between Hongqiao and Pudong Airports, the ridership on the Maglev has probably fallen even further. It's expensive and it doesn't go anywhere useful.

The Maglev was an expensive vanity project (you might call it a white elephant) that was built mainly due to the influence of the former mayor of Shanghai who is now in jail for corruption, and it was strongly opposed by the Ministry of Railways.

Onn, the fact that you'd even post such a thing without even educating yourself on what the photo is and the background of the Maglev shows you aren't interested in educated debate, and only interested in usually baseless criticism of everything and anything China related.
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^That Maglev line is basically a test run for a line that one day may run from Shanghai to Beijing.
Do you know how much meglev costs?? An empty train?? Are you kidding! You guys are ridiculous if you think they are making money on this stuff.
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Official News from China MOR today

http://news.21-sun.com/detail/2010/0...09255053.shtml

update to Sepetember 3, 2010, a totaly of 6920 km High-Speed Rail lines come into service in China, includes 4044 km with designed speed 250km/h - 350km/h, and 2876 km with designed speed 200km/h - 250km/h.

from January to July, the chinese railway system transport 975.95 million passengers, about 4.6 million per day, the HSR system transport a average of 881 thousands passengers per day, with a average take-up rate of 120%

and according to this article,

http://goo.yikuo.com/news/2010-08-19...720122365.html

currentlly there are 355 CRH trains in service, with 121 of them runs under top speed of 350km/h, and 234 of them service under top speed of 250km/h

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Do you know how much meglev costs?? An empty train?? Are you kidding! You guys are ridiculous if you think they are making money on this stuff.
If you read between the line it's not meant to make money (even though it is), it's the worlds first commercial line, and the test run for a much larger intercity project. Its 19 miles long and runs from the airport to 20 minutes outside the city centre ( dubbed "going from nowhere to nowhere"). This year they will start to extend the line into central Shanghai, and south all the way to Hangzhou. The original plans were drawn up in 2006 and due to be completed this year, but were delayed due to public fears on magnetic radiation (even though its not much more than a cell phone or electric charger), hence plans to put it underground now to allay the locals.

Beijing is already looking into public suburban maglevs by 2015, following the successful running of the Shanghai line. Basically theyre better suited for urban areas being completely silent, faster and more manoeuvrable than normal commuter lines:

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