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The better idea would be to introduce accountability into these social programs. Easier said than done, but I'd support a system that analyzed a person's situation, and developed a program that would lead to their overall betterment. There'll be quite a bit of subjectivity to deal with, but I'm sure we can agree on an end goal (to become self-sufficient).
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I'm on board with you, 100% hexrae. It would be interesting to get down to the nitty gritty of the cost of administration of such a program.
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Got a glimps of the new terminal Tuesday afternoon. She's looking good, but am still dissapointed that they are only adding two new landing gates for planes at the moment.

Despite this however, I know this airport will be the envy of the country
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Got a glimps of the new terminal Tuesday afternoon. She's looking good, but am still dissapointed that they are only adding two new landing gates for planes at the moment.

Despite this however, I know this airport will be the envy of the country
yes but the bigest improovement will be more seating for the gates
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yes but the bigest improovement will be more seating for the gates
Yes, but that is only one portion of it. I know this will come in time, but more gates need to be added to increase our potential of acquiring more non-stop destinations, especially international flights.
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Gates can be added anytime as required. The important part is the passenger areas and back service areas will be to todays standards regarding comforts and operational matters.
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Also keep in mind that the capacity to haddle more flight traffic is greatly increased, from more check-in , more bagage handling capacity, more retail, more hotel space and at airport business support.

So as demand requires more gates will be added and the terminal will be able to accomodate the increased flow of people without concern.

When the new terminal building opens, it will really be under utilized compared to what its capable of, in terms of people traffic and number of future gates.
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Inland port legislation to be introduced

Updated: September 10 at 12:07 PM CDT | Winnipeg Free Press

The Doer government will introduce new legislation today designating the area around Winnipeg's airport as an inland port.

The plan is to use the airport and its geographic location in North America as a hub to import goods from Asia and Europe and then distribute them throughout the rest of Canada and parts of the United States by air, truck and rail.

The inland port designation, to be made official under the CentrePort Canada Act, also helps qualify the province and city for millions in federal money to build new roads and other infrastructure projects.

Critics say the plan is-out-of-touch with economic and geographic reality. They say Minneapolis-St. Paul is far-better suited as a distribution hub as it's closer to major markets and also connected by rail to ship ports on the West Coast.

Initiatives already underway linked to the Winnipeg inland port idea include twinning Inkster Boulevard to the west Perimeter Highway for easier truck access, improving access to the city via the Trans-Canada at Headingley and dealing with the bottlenecks on Highway 75 from St. Norbert to Emerson.

Also in the planning stage is working with the outlying municipalities west of the airport so that the area is developed as a distribution centre.
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^The critics are probably right about Minneapolis being better suited as an inland port but I don't see why we can't get our piece of the pie.
In fact, it almost seems like Doer and the NDP are starting to understand the connection between economic incentives and economic success. Now if we can just get them to stop using Hydro as their own personal piggy bank we'll be set.
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Inland port designated, aims to be trade hub

By: Bruce Owen | Winnipeg Free Press

Updated: September 11 at 08:44 AM CDT

There's not a heck of a lot there now -- mostly empty fields and the odd goose taking a breather before heading south for the winter.

Election offers opportunity to push inland port

But in the months and years ahead those fields northwest of the airport could help Winnipeg become the place it was always meant to be -- the gateway not only to the west, but every direction in between.

That process began Wednesday when the Doer government introduced legislation designating the area around Winnipeg's James Armstrong Richardson International Airport as an inland port.

The plan is to use the airport and its geographic location in North America as a hub to import goods from Asia and Europe and then distribute those goods throughout the rest of Canada and parts of the United States by air, rail and truck.

The inland port designation -- made official under the province's new CentrePort Canada Act -- also helps qualify the province and city for millions more in federal money to build new roads, rail lines and add new infrastructure like sewers and utilities around the airport.

"This is not going to be Winnport, this is going to be a success," Premier Gary Doer, referring to a similar plan 20 years ago that never got off the ground, said Wednesday. "We have everyone working together now. Why didn't past endeavours work? I don't think everyone was at the table."

The CentrePort process has already begun.

Two big things Manitoban's will notice first are improvements to roads. Inkster Boulevard will be twinned from Oakpoint Highway to the Perimeter Highway. The $68-million project, co-funded by Ottawa, will allow truckers to get in and out of the city faster and safer.

Last week, Ottawa and Manitoba pledged $85 million to fixing up Highway 75 from the Emerson border north to Morris. The project is also being done, in part, to deal with heavier truck traffic heading north and south.

The next step is realigning rail tracks. The CPR line runs north of the airport. With more cargo arriving by air from Asia and Europe, goods can be off-loaded to rail cars and shipped east, west or south.

Bob Silver, co-chair of Doer's Economic Advisory Council, said the hope is that when these things start coming together, more private investment will follow. That, in turn, creates jobs.

"Government will not build a building that says, "Centreport", said Silver, co-owner of the Free Press and president of Western Glove Works. "Private business will build the buildings when the infrastructure is there, the roads and sewers."

Millions more in infrastructure funding from Ottawa is available, but the province wants to push ahead quickly with the plan before other Canadian cities, like Edmonton, get their fingers on it.

"We see this as the best economic opportunity for the province," Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce president Dave Angus said of the CentrePort project.

Critics say the plan is out of touch with economic and geographic reality. They say Minneapolis-St. Paul is better suited as a distribution hub, as it's closer to major markets and also connected by rail to ports on the West Coast.

"All they're doing is banging their head against the wall," trucker George Smith said, adding higher Canadian fuel prices means more goods go through the U.S. rather than Canada.

"There are not enough loads," Smith said. "There ain't no intermodal hub for that."

Tory Opposition Leader Hugh McFayden said he supports the project, but want to examine the province's plan to use tax-increment financing (TIF) to fund it. The TIF legislation, introduced on the last day of the spring session, is designed to create "tax-increment financing zones," which are areas where increased tax revenue from improved properties are shovelled straight back into the same few city blocks.

McFadyen said he's concerned TIF has already been touted as helping fund a new football stadium to building affordable housing, and the province is juggling too many balls under legislation that hasn't yet been past.

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What's an inland port?

It's a port with no ships. Instead, it features planes,

trains and trucks.


How does Winnipeg fit into it?

We're the Heart of the Continent. Winnipeg sits in the middle of North America. It's also situated at one end of what some say will be the supply line between North America and China.


How can that be?

Barry Rempel, president and CEO of the Winnipeg Airports Authority (WAA), said big cargo jets are being made to fly longer, but they will never be able to fly faster. Right now many land in Anchorage, Alaska to refuel. In time, they'll fly right over Alaska from Shanghai, but they won't have enough fuel to make Chicago. Where do they land? Bingo.

Yeah, but...

Rempel said these big cargo jets make their owners money by flying. If they land in Winnipeg from Shanghai, why not unload, refuel and load up again with something else and go back to Shanghai?


So, then...

Yup, that's an inland port. And all that stuff unloaded off that plane has to go somewhere. It can be loaded on a truck or train and taken to Kalamazoo, Mich., or Piscataway, NJ., or wherever. And stuff that folks want to ship to Shanghai, well, it can be trucked

up to Winnipeg and flown to China.


When is this all going to happen?

Rempel said the airport has already seen a 55-per-cent increase in goods moving through the airport in the last while. More will come as government builds new roads to handle the higher number of trucks coming and going from the city. The process will take a few years, but it's hoped that when those big jets land and unload, they'll be full of unassembled materials or components -- say electronics. And with any luck, some smart businesspeople will set up near the airport to put those pieces together and ship them out.
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Election offers opportunity to push inland port


By: Chris Lorenc

Updated: September 11 at 07:25 AM CDT | Winnipeg Free Press Commentary

This election is the perfect time to pursue federal political party support on the issue of creating an inland port in Winnipeg for the betterment of Manitoba and Canada.

Successive economic studies, the Manitoba international gateway strategy and reports, including that of the mayor's trade council adopted by city council in March 2008, all point to the real but time-sensitive opportunity to position Winnipeg as one of Canada's gateways to global trade. The Doer government on Wednesday introduced legislation designating the area around the city as the inland port.

We have the pieces of the puzzle but we need a federal government willing to help us put them together.

Those pieces include unique rail assets. We are the only city in western Canada where the two major Canadian railways -- Canadian National and Canadian Pacific -- the American railway Burlington Northern Santa Fe and OmniTRAX (serving the North and the Port of Churchill) all converge.

The only other city in Canada that boasts CN and CP within its urban limits is Montreal. We have three of the top 10 national trucking companies headquartered in Winnipeg, supporting roughly 33,000 jobs and contributing $1.2 billion to Manitoba's GDP.

The James Richardson International Airport is one of few in Canada operating 24/7. It is the third busiest cargo airport in Canada, 17th busiest in North America and largest in Canada by number of dedicated cargo carriers with air cargo increasing by 55 per cent between 2002 and 2007.

We have an extensive network of roads with Highway 75 supporting roughly $14 billion of trade annually. Intersecting with the United States at Emerson, it is the busiest U.S.-Canada border crossing (425,000 truck crossings) in western Canada with volumes increasing over the last five years by an astonishing 74 per cent.

In addition we have the only inland deep sea water port in Churchill, which connects to Russia and then Eurasia nine days faster than the St. Lawrence Seaway. Churchill is western Canada's closest seaport to northern and eastern Europe.

Trade growth-related opportunities can become an important step to position Manitoba to have-province status and to position Canada as the international trade crossroads nation.

The opportunities are real, but to materialize them, we need national government investment.

Winnipeg and the Rural Municipality of Rosser have sizeable tracts of land to the north and west of the airport with road access (requiring further development), and rail at and in proximity to platform an inland port.

We have a Perimeter Highway which, with access improvements, can remove significant trade-related truck traffic from inside the city and efficiently move it to intermodal, value-added, manufacturing operations located at the inland port.

We have geographic location with immediate access to the U.S. market within a day out of our airport -- it takes five days before cargo can leave Chicago's airport -- and hours by truck to the vast U.S. market.

A full 80 per cent of rail container traffic originating on the west coast passes through Winnipeg on its way to the east. They return west empty, creating opportunities, provided there is regulatory reform.

We are on the north end of the mid-continent trade corridor including the port of Churchill at its most northerly point, linking Canada, the United States and then Mexico at the south.

In short, our location links east, west, south and north trade, between the North American continent and the rest of the world. When these linkages succeed, Canada succeeds.

But we also need a federal policy that recognizes that the existing tax, duty and excise strategies are insufficient to attract international relocation, location or expansion.

We need policies akin to free trade zones in Canada which defer (not absolve) payment of duties and related taxes until after "value add" and the product is exported from inland ports, in order to globally compete.

The United States, Mexico, Australia and other jurisdictions use such trade zones to enhance the attractiveness of locating manufacturing inside inland ports. In the U.S., roughly 18 inland ports have created 400,000 jobs and handle $200 billion of trade annually.

This is a vision that supports nation building, a vision based upon sound economic data, not wishful thinking. Because of the associated real economic benefits, commitment to an inland port and free-trade zone policy is deserving of national support.

Manitobans support this vision. Now we must press from the federal candidates their commitment that they will turn this vision into national reality.


Chris Lorenc is president of the Manitoba Heavy Construction Association and chairman of the mayor's trade council.
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No kidding, we've been talking about using the airport as an inland port for just about as long as the city has been talking about Rapid Transit.

Do it already!
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If and when this happens, the first industries to see this benifit will be the ones that already exist near that area, such as businesses and manufacturing plants in Murray Industrial Park.
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For the airline buffs out there, a new airline is starting up by some of the industry heavyweights, NewAir. Rumour inside WAA says Winnipeg is top contender to become its hub (central location, cheaper landing fees). Website has a taking suggestions.
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For the airline buffs out there, a new airline is starting up by some of the industry heavyweights, NewAir. Rumour inside WAA says Winnipeg is top contender to become its hub (central location, cheaper landing fees). Website has a taking suggestions.
If all goes to planned, then we'll be seeing a lot of NewAir birds around our airport.

Has there been a major airline that had its hub based here in Winnipeg or will this be the first time ever for YWG from any major airline?
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^ Western Canadian Airways, which became Canadian Airways which became Trans-Canada Airlines (TCA) and which eventually became Air Canada...

Check the links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A...ichardson,_Sr.

The headquarters for this company where moved for political reasons from Winnipeg to Montreal... one of the early examples of WInnipeg being thrown under the bus in the name of federalism...
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Rumour inside WAA says Winnipeg is top contender to become its hub (central location, cheaper landing fees). Website has a taking suggestions.
Something doesn't add up here. Why would an airline (or soon-to-be airline), who is clearly based in the glorified airhub city of Calgary, want to make Winnipeg it's hub? What would be the benefits, unless perhaps the company may also be looking to set up headquarters in Winnipeg?
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I thought NewAir (or whatever the final name will be) was going to be concentrating on charter type work, packaged vacations, etc? I guess we'll see...

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Has there been a major airline that had its hub based here in Winnipeg or will this be the first time ever for YWG from any major airline?
The term "hub" really only makes sense when carriers use a hub and spoke system for connecting flights. While the concept has been around for a long time, it has only really been since deregulation in the '70's and '80's that airlines truly developed "hubs." So while Western Canada Airways (which in part was used to form TCA/Air Canada, and the rest formed part of CPAir) was a Winnipeg-based company, it wasn't a hub carrier. Back in the days the TCA headquarters was at YWG, it was before the hub system was developed. Likewise, Transair was a regional carrier, but that wouldn't have made Winnipeg a "hub" per se.

Greyhound Air, on the other hand, truly did use YWG as a hub. WestJet actually also has referred to YWG as a hub, although not a major one. Air Canada Jazz has referred to YWG as a focus city or regional base of some sort.
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