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Old Posted Dec 25, 2013, 5:45 PM
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Places like Detroit and Minneapolis have large "just above the cut" hinterlands of low-density residential, particularly around their respective "lake country" areas that drag the overall density down.
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Places like Detroit and Minneapolis have large "just above the cut" hinterlands of low-density residential, particularly around their respective "lake country" areas that drag the overall density down.
St. Louis has a similar issue to it's immediate southwest in the foothills of the ozarks. It's sort of SE style sprawl in the midwest.



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^Same shit in Cincinnati and Pittsburgh as well.
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Mountains and hills definitely take away from the density. There's nothing like developing a flat, desert landscape to create the ultimate in high-density sprawl.
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In 1950 Chicago had a density of about 16,000 ppsm. St. Louis was about 13,800 ppsm, Detroit about 13,300, Cleveland at 11,800 and Minneapolis at 9,500. If anyone can get more accurate numbers, please do.
here are the official numbers from the US census:

1950 U.S. Census - 10 largest midwest cities, ranked by average density:

- Chicago: 3,620,962 / 207.5 sq. miles = 17,450 ppsm

- St. Louis: 856,796 / 61.0 sq. miles = 14,046 ppsm

- Detroit: 1,849,568 / 139.6 sq. miles = 13,249 ppsm

- Milwaukee: 637,392 / 50.0 sq. miles = 12,748 ppsm

- Cleveland: 914,808 / 75.0 sq. miles = 12,197 ppsm

- Minneapolis: 521,718 / 53.8 sq. miles = 9,697 ppsm

- Columbus: 375,901 / 39.4 sq. miles = 9,541 ppsm

- Indianapolis: 427,173 / 55.2 sq. miles = 7,739 ppsm

- Cincinnati: 503,998 / 75.1 sq. miles = 6,711 ppsm

- Kansas City: 456,622 / 80.6 sq. miles = 5,665 ppsm

source: http://www.census.gov/population/www...0027/tab18.txt
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10 largest midwest cities ranked by lowest % detached single family homes:


CHICAGO:
1-unit, detached - 309,210 - 25.8%
1-unit, attached - 43,146 - 3.6%
2 units - 184,587 - 15.4%
3 or 4 units - 195,729 - 16.3%
5 to 9 units - 127,647 - 10.7%
10 to 19 units - 54,224 - 4.5%
20 or more units - 281,031 - 23.5%


CINCINNATI:
1-unit, detached - 63,521 - 37.8%
1-unit, attached - 7,980 - 4.8%
2 units - 16,978 - 10.1%
3 or 4 units - 20,757 - 12.4%
5 to 9 units - 16,774 - 10.0%
10 to 19 units - 18,549 - 11.0%
20 or more units - 22,923 - 13.7%


MILWAUKEE:
1-unit, detached - 104,629 - 40.3%
1-unit, attached - 15,269 - 5.9%
2 units - 56,131 - 21.6%
3 or 4 units - 20,197 - 7.8%
5 to 9 units - 14,760 - 5.7%
10 to 19 units - 10,066 - 3.9%
20 or more units - 37,214 - 14.3%


ST. LOUIS:
1-unit, detached - 74,862 - 42.5%
1-unit, attached - 7,186 - 4.1%
2 units - 28,116 - 16.0%
3 or 4 units - 25,001 - 14.2%
5 to 9 units - 10,427 - 5.9%
10 to 19 units - 5,151 - 2.9%
20 or more units - 24,847 - 14.1%


MINNEAPOLIS:
1-unit, detached - 81,915 - 44.4%
1-unit, attached - 7,814 - 4.2%
2 units - 17,196 - 9.3%
3 or 4 units - 8,075 - 4.4%
5 to 9 units - 6,657 - 3.6%
10 to 19 units - 14,652 - 7.9%
20 or more units - 47,638 - 25.8%


COLUMBUS:
1-unit, detached - 172,476 - 46.4%
1-unit, attached - 41,644 - 11.2%
2 units - 13,485 - 3.6%
3 or 4 units - 35,889 - 9.7%
5 to 9 units - 42,099 - 11.3%
10 to 19 units - 29,862 - 8.0%
20 or more units - 33,174 - 8.9%


CLEVELAND:
1-unit, detached - 102,731 - 47.4%
1-unit, attached - 14,159 - 6.5%
2 units - 42,584 - 19.6%
3 or 4 units - 14,453 - 6.7%
5 to 9 units - 9,354 - 4.3%
10 to 19 units - 8,673 - 4.0%
20 or more units - 23,366 - 10.8%


INDIANAPOLIS:
1-unit, detached - 225,342 - 59.3%
1-unit, attached - 28,674 -3 7.5%
2 units - 9,721 - 2.6%
3 or 4 units - 22,316 - 5.9%
5 to 9 units - 33,913 - 8.9%
10 to 19 units - 27,566 - 7.2%
20 or more units - 27,973 - 7.4%


KANSAS CITY:
1-unit, detached - 140,310 - 62.5%
1-unit, attached - 13,245 - 5.9%
2 units - 6,026 - 2.7%
3 or 4 units - 10,684 - 4.8%
5 to 9 units - 15,280 - 6.8%
10 to 19 units - 14,676 - 6.5%
20 or more units - 22,187 - 9.9%


DETROIT:
1-unit, detached - 238,007 - 65.5%
1-unit, attached - 24,757 - 6.8%
2 units - 31,414 - 8.6%
3 or 4 units - 9,483 - 2.6%
5 to 9 units - 8,123 - 2.2%
10 to 19 units - 10,871 - 3.0%
20 or more units - 39,255 - 10.8%
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