First off, thanks for your comments guys!
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Originally Posted by Boris550
Being familiar with your previous studies, I can see that instead of pushing streetcars as usual, you've switched for BRT in this case study... It seems that you are providing some sort of dedicated bus lanes, not quite the same as a busway of course, but definately a median-seperated laneway. I hope that is correct. I would definately agree that it is a better use of this road widening than just adding more cars to the road.
Great stuff.
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I'm definitely a tram guy but in this case we selected the system with the best capacity and current-cost for the corridor in the near future. You are correct; the BRT ROW will be separated from regular traffic as it is in Curitiba. However, as I’ll discuss below, we plan on learning from Curitiba’s mistake and cashing out on BRT at the right time.
We were looking at including a streetcar line to provide local service along the Urban Corridor part of 16th but the complexity of that, as well as the project time limit, ruled the inclusion out. It was actually a bit strange that although I love trams, in the beginning I was actually opposed to including them in the corridor. Even though our plan doesn’t call for streetcars along the corridor itself we believe that streetcars have a place in our plan; as a connection.
Calgary needs to put the streetcar back in the streetcar suburbs! There should be trams running along Edmonton Trail, Centre Street, and 14th Street which would allow these corridors to intensify in a transit-oriented fashion. In addition, it would provide 16th with transit connections into the core and, in the case of Edmonton Trail, to the Bridges. It would expand out city’s radial rail network but it would be complemented by a cross-town BRT network.
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Originally Posted by Beltliner
Riise, you crazy little socceroo, you....
I like your 16 Avenue site a lot. I really do. You laddies put a lot of work and a lot of insight into it, and you deserve a good grade for your project on almost every level...
...except for your advocacy of BRT for 16 Avenue.
The main issue, and it's one that trips up a lot of BRT fans everywhere, is that BRT looks so much cheaper to break out of the box than an LRT system does that people don't look at the high-maintenance lifestyle a BRT lives once it's up and running...
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Thanks, those are awesome calculations that show the hidden costs of BRT. However, we did have your foresight and took them into consideration. We chose BRT over LRT as we saw it as the first phase of a transitional rapid transit system in the corridor. BRT will precede some form of LRT that will replace the BRT at a point in the future where LRT is viable and, as you calculations show, less costly.