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Originally Posted by Snark
Clearly, most folks working there are skilled tradespersons even if not formal post-secondary grads. Many will have years of experience as well that is far more valuable than education. They build large, complex, sophisticated machines of very high value. This is not some factory making light bulbs. So what should a skilled worker earn? What do you think electricians, gasfitters, and plumbers earn?
Agreed! They should just accept that the middle class should be reduced by 80% in this country in order to be "competitive". We should let the nation's wealth to return to its rightful place: that 5% that is the traditional ruling class or better yet completely out of the country. And with time, with a remaining rump middle class no longer able to drive the economy we can no longer afford things like a healthcare system or law enforcement, but we will be competitive and draw major employers just like say.... Juárez. You know, the city in Mexico that has 300 assembly plants and and 3,000 murders a year.
1) Why do you think that is?
2) Get used to it if the "economic competitiveness" that you defend does end up becoming entrenched as the new norm in society here. You won't be able to afford to send your kids to university. For that matter you will never own a home. You will die poor.
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I'm with you, Snark. What many do not seem to realize is that if the 1%, or the 5% you talk about, or whoever they are, manage to snag all the wealth in the world, they'll have a lot of money they can't spend or use, thus making their attempt to impoverish the 99% an ultimately non-sustainable exercise. I mean, if their goal is to impoverish everyone else and keep all the marbles, so to speak, all to themselves, then they're not going to be spending that wealth on things that generate wide-scale economic activity, lest they give up some of their wealth, are they?
I get really tired of people who continually decry "lazy, overpaid, unionized workers". They add nothing useful to the discussion, and their words really reflect nothing more than naked jealousy. To them I say, 'What would you really rather have? Good wages that afford a decent standard of living and fair, humane working conditions, or would you really rather live on your knees in poverty, because that somehow makes you better, more noble than those 'lazy unionized workers' you envy so much?"
Like him or not, Lewenza of the CAW is justified in trying to prevent this absolutely odious 'deal' from being foisted on the EMD workers, because he quite correctly sees that if it goes through, it will set a precedent that other employers will try to replicate. And that will only serve to weaken the union movement over the long haul, not strengthen it.
Right now, the people who are the 99% are being pitted against one another in a zero-sum situation where people are incited to try and take crumbs from their neighbours' mouths in the name of righting phantom wrongs. In other words, "My neighbour has more than I do, so I will steal from him to make things more 'equal' somehow." The problem with that logic is that one minus one equals zero, meaning that both parties lose - one has a little more, but not enough, and the other has lost some of what he had.
And you know what? When that happens, the 1% laugh at the 99%. All the way to the bank. Ever heard of the ancient Roman tactic of '
divide et impera' ('divide and conquer')?
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