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Old Posted Nov 15, 2007, 12:01 AM
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Harrah's Marina to top off hotel tower tomorrow

Harrah's Marina casino in Atlantic City will top off its new hotel, Waterfront Tower, tomorrow. The 44-story, 961-room tower is the final phase of a $550 million expansion at the property owned by Harrah's Entertainment Inc., Las Vegas. Waterfront Tower, set to open early next year, will make Harrah's the tallest hotel casino in Atlantic City - for now - and the second-tallest building in New Jersey. Casino operators and other developers have made capital investments in Atlantic City of more than $10 billion over the last four years. They aim to transform the gambling resort into an overnight destination similar to Las Vegas by expanding its hotel, retail, dining and other non-gambling attractions. Waterfront Tower will increase the hotel capacity at Harrah's nearly 60 percent, bringing the total to 2,591 guest rooms. - Suzette Parmley
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Does anyone have the exact or relative hieghts of the three tower's U/c right now.

Harrah's tower did not seem that large in person but I guess It has to be up there in ft, at least for new jersey. I dont think it will remain 2nd for too long.
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Harrahs - 525'
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Does anyone have the exact or relative hieghts of the three tower's U/c right now.

Harrah's tower did not seem that large in person but I guess It has to be up there in ft, at least for new jersey. I dont think it will remain 2nd for too long.
The best part of the Harrah's tower is that they left room for an addtional tower to either match or go bigger than this one which is the current plan.

I'm dying to see what Pinnacle has up their sleeve. The length of time it has taken only makes me wonder if they aren't going to sell only to delay things more.

The agreement the Casinos had with Jersey racetracks ends in a month I believe. Basically the Casinos where paying the tracks not to push for VLTs(video lottery terminals) a form of slot machine. So we'll see how that goes. If tracks get VLTs that will be bad for the Casinos obviously. On the plus side that really pushes the casinos to more spectacular things to make the trip worthwhile outside of just gaming.
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Anyone knows what is the tallest building in NJ? Is it the Goldman Sachs Tower in Jersey City?
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Planet Hollywood in A.C.?

By WILLIAM H. SOKOLIC
Courier-Post Staff

ATLANTIC CITY
Add another name to the potential suitors for a piece of Atlantic City: Planet Hollywood.

Robert Earl, co-founder of the company that opened a chain of celebrity-memorabilia restaurants, is looking to Atlantic City for his second casino hotel project.

Planet Hollywood Resort & Casino, a refurbished and rebranded hotel on the former site of the Aladdin, had its grand opening this week on the Las Vegas Strip, across from MGM Mirage's massive CityCenter construction site.

Company officials declined details, other than to say plans are in the process. This won't be the first time Planet Hollywood sought to bring its name to a casino hotel in Atlantic City. In 1996, at the dawn of a renaissance in the resort, Earl announced a joint venture with Caesars for a Planet Hollywood Casino Hotel on the former Traymore Hotel tract along the boardwalk, land then owned by Caesars.

The proposal never got much beyond the talking stage. Since then, the Planet Hollywood restaurant business Earl and a handful of celebrities built tanked, including the one in Caesars in Atlantic City. Harrah's Entertainment bought out Caesars, sold the Traymore acreage to the Sands, which in turn sold out to Pinnacle Entertainment. Pinnacle will develop its own multi-billion dollar resort on the site.

Whether Earl is serious this time remains to be seen.

"Many say they want to, but precious few deliver," said Joseph Weinert, senior vice president of Spectrum Gaming Group and managing editor of Michael Pollock's Gaming Industry Observer.

For one thing, developable land is close to nil in Atlantic City, excluding the long-range potential at Bader Field, the former airport.

"Perhaps he can work a miracle with land assemblage, or consider a relatively small plot," Weinert said.

"I also question whether his company has the ability to enter a market where the effective minimum investment is $1.5 billion for a ground-up property."

Earl could gain entry by purchasing an existing asset, such as one of the Trump Entertainment hotels, still considered available for the right price. That's what his company did in Las Vegas, where it acquired the Aladdin after that hotel foundered in the aftermath of 9/11.

Reach William H. Sokolic at (609) 823-9159 or bsokolic@camden.gannett.com
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Anyone knows what is the tallest building in NJ? Is it the Goldman Sachs Tower in Jersey City?
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George Siganos who is a Real Estate Developer down in AC will take a project to the planning board for approval in January. The current plan has it at 385 ft with 230 units condo, hotel or apartment has not been determined. This would at Texas avenue and boardwalk.

I know that the Toll Bros company was working on project nearby at the site that used to be Trump's World Fair. Not sure the height but in the 400ft range and was to be condos. I think this is in the design phase.

The boardwalk is going to be crowded in the years to come. It's going to look like half of a canyon.
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FANTASTIC!!! That project will make the atlantic city waterfront glassier and slightly less cheesy lol. Great project!
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Staying in A.C. Without the Games

A a lot more indepth article about what I mentioned the other day. I don't know the rules to linking pics but the if you click to the actual story there is a rendering of the Prasada.



http://www.philly.com/philly/business/11800572.html

By Joseph N. DiStefano

Inquirer Staff Writer

As Atlantic City's casinos face increased competition, Boardwalk real estate investors are proposing sites for non-gambling high-rise projects they say will make the resort more appealing to wealthy second-home owners and vacationers.
> "There's at least four tower projects along the Boardwalk today that aren't casinos," said architect Thomas J. Sykes, principal at SOSH Architects, which counts a majority of the resort's casinos among its past clients.

> Promoters and their Boardwalk sites, in various stages of state and city approval, include:

> Brielle attorney Jim Maggs, at Maine Avenue near Absecon Inlet.

> Longport restaurateur and Boardwalk landlord George Sigonis, at Texas Avenue amid casino row.

> Horsham-based residential developer Bruce E. Toll, at Florida Avenue a block north. (Toll is chairman of Philadelphia Media Holdings L.L.C., which owns The Inquirer).

> Philadelphia developer Christopher DiGeorge and his partner, Thomas Stenger, former chief risk officer at GMAC Residential Capital L.P., at New York Avenue next to the planned Pinnacle casino site.

> These projects have yet to dig down to hard sand. "They're all watching each other and waiting till someone puts a hole in the ground," Sykes said in his Atlantic Avenue office last week.

> Proponents say Atlantic City is so underdeveloped that it can grow despite a national real estate recession. The projects have not yet reached the right balance of hope and caution, fear and greed, bad news and good.

> The bad news: The national decline in residential real estate. The Wall Street credit crunch that has bankers demanding more equity for loans on speculative projects. A city government distracted by Mayor Bob Levy's resignation. Competition from Pennsylvania's new gambling halls.

> The good news: The giant Revel and Pinnacle casino projects. The new, expensive retail stores at the Caesar's pier and other recent projects. The lifting of the ban on tall buildings, now that the Bader Field airport has closed. The promise of tax reassessment and development tax breaks. And competition from Pennsylvania's new gambling halls.

> "I'm happy about Pennsylvania gambling," said architect Sykes. "It takes away the bus crowd and forces us to reinvest."

> DiGeorge, a lawyer who was formerly a commercial real estate lender with PNC and First Republic Banks, was an early investor in the 1990s redevelopment of Northern Liberties, Center City's Schuylkill waterfront, Chinatown, and developer Carl Dranoff's Symphony House on South Broad Street.

> He shifted his focus to Atlantic City as Philadelphia condo-building grew more crowded after 2003, acquiring an option on the lot where he and Stenger are proposing a $300 million, 50-story condo-hotel, full of restaurants, indoor pools and cabana units, tentatively called the Prasada (Sanskrit for "grace").

> DiGeorge said his group could build the building, or make a deal with one of the big hotel chains nibbling at the city's likely construction sites.

> He and the other Boardwalk-site promoters say they need to attract an older, richer crowd than the youngish party set that downtown developers expect their colleague Curtis Bashaw will attract in his redevelopment of the former Howard Johnson and Holiday Inn hotels in Atlantic City's Chelsea neighborhood. Bashaw is a grandson of one of the Shore's more colorful 20th-century personalities, the late Cape May hotel owner and religious broadcaster Carl McIntyre.

> DiGeorge is betting the city "has reached a tipping point. The busloads of seniors aren't going there like they were. It can't just be about the casinos anymore. This market needs the kind of destination hotels you see in South Beach and other successful high-end markets."

> "The real challenge: Is Atlantic City now a second-home market?" asks lawyer Jack Placker of Fox Rothschild L.L.P.

> "We need midweek traffic," Placker said. "Who's staying at your place on a Tuesday night in February? Somebody has to take the lead and develop that market."

> Placker and his developer-clients speculate over what will spark that movement. Successful financing for any of the tower projects? The intervention of a major hotel chain? A long-rumored casino-based project by Steve Wynn? Some other sugar daddy investor stepping forward, from Dubai, Shanghai, Mumbai, or the big private-equity funds?

> Builders are also waiting for the next city administration to complete the downtown tax-abatement program. "Or else you could be paying $16,000 a unit - maybe $30,000 without a tax reassessment," Placker said.

> "Nobody's going to build without the abatement," said developer Toll. "We're waiting for the city tax reassessment, too."

> Placker, a city native, former lifeguard and regular Atlantic surfer, wishes that, nearly 30 years after the state legalized Atlantic City casinos, the city's business leaders would go further in embracing high-stakes bets on their common future.

> "When Borgata first came in, people were laughing, saying, 'These people are from Vegas, they'll fail,' " he recalled. The Borgata, he noted, is now the city's highest-volume casino, and one of the few still growing.

> At least one Philadelphia real estate watcher says the casino city's recent efforts to expand its appeal have already made a difference.

> John Gattuso, head of Philadelphia operations at Liberty Property Trust in Malvern, says he has grown used to taking his wife and 7-year-old daughter to Atlantic City for shopping, dinner and beach visits.

> "Atlantic City's a pretty dynamic place right now," Gattuso said from his job supervising the construction of the new Comcast tower, Philadelphia's tallest building. "You're finally starting to see some places that go beyond gambling."
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Does anyone have any pics of this new 50 story tower? Do we have any links to all of the new, non-casino towers that are proposed for AC?

I am VERY excited at the thought of non-casino towers being built in AC. It would really help establish AC as a great city.
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What's cool is that empty space directly to the left of that rendering won't be empty for long as that's where Pinnacle will go.
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will "the water club" have its own casino?
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It is going to be 50 floors? None of which will house anything casino-related?

Are there any other condo towers in the works?
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Do we have any links to all of the new, non-casino towers that are proposed for AC?
This thread really needs a intro post/page with all of the proposed, under contruction, demolished, and renovated towers...renderings, photos and all

...like the Philly Construction Thread
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will "the water club" have its own casino?
No. Its just hotel rooms, spas, pools, shopping, and meeting spaces.
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