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Old Posted May 15, 2012, 5:49 PM
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That one had me scratching my head; I couldn't imagine how the view could possibly be from Spring Street. So I found that photo on USC -- they do indeed identify it that way, but then a similar shot from the same series calls it Spruce Street, which must be correct.

Spruce Street is short road that is west of 110 freeway (at the time the Figueroa route), in the Radio Hill area.
Glad you noticed this. I wondered about it and in my haste went to the source notes. Unfortunately, despite the best of intentions, photo subjects, locations and dates are often misidentified. This makes multiple posts of the same image - practically unavoidable. But we do our best. It also makes for surprises when, for example, looking for photos of the San Antonio Alamo, you discover it too, was located near the May Co. at Fairfax and Wilshire! lol

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But anyway, after that experience, I started wondering where LA's Greeks worshipped prior to this cathedral being built. Apparently, they used to go to a church called the Greek Orthodox Church of the Annunciation, located at 1216 S. San Julian Street. Here it is in 1943:

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Unfortunately it no longer exists. Here's the site now, per Google Street View:

Do you suppose that same single window in the building next door has been open for the past 69 years?
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Old Posted May 15, 2012, 6:25 PM
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A weekend of firsts for me.

I saw the film noir "Tension" for the very first time ever on Saturday. I thought it was a good film. Audrey Totter plays the shit out of her femme fatale role, and a very young and beautiful Cyd Charisse plays the "good girl" role with aplomb.

An Apple Pan burger (maybe) to anyone who can locate the Ralphs supermarket seen in the film, @14:51 in this clip:
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There are clues that the film is set in Culver City (plus the fact that it's an MGM production), but I'm curious to know where that Ralphs is.

sopas: After poking around a bit this morning--well, more than a bit (it's a rainy day here in NY)--I found that the Ralphs in Tension was the one at 3465 W. 6th St.... which is the well-known and still-extant Chapman Park Market. It turns out that the Chapman building on the north side of 6th between Alexandria and Kenmore was a Ralphs in 1949. On the southeast corner of 6th and Alex was the Standard station (3470 W. 6th) seen in the clip; at the southwest corner was the Chapman Park Pharmacy, which is the store that Richard Basehart manages as "Warren Quimby." (I could find no pictures of that corner showing more of the building; also, re the "COAST TO COAST" neon--I'm wondering if the pharmacy was a Rexall or part of some other national chain....)



This small corner of a larger newspaper ad depicting Ralphs locations ca. 1949 (which we've seen here a few years ago when we explored the Ralphs chain extensively, but which I couldn't winnow out) shows the Chapman market with Ralphs signs that match the two sizes seen in Tension.





Above: The southwest corner of 6th and Alexandria, 1949 and 2011. Below left: The view from the Standard station seen in the movie toward the northwest corner of the interesection--note the match of the lamppost to the one in the movie screenshot above. Below right: A '70s shot toward the one-time Ralphs from the empty lot where the pharmacy once stood.




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Old Posted May 15, 2012, 6:46 PM
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Tonight on TCM (8:00 eastern time) is a great film noir shot in various locations in Los Angeles County.




The first robbery, famously filmed from the backseat of the getaway car, takes place in a fictional 'Hampton'.
In fact is was filmed in Los Angeles County in Montrose CA.

The second robbery was filmed in Reseda. The store that was robbed, named 'Ranchers & Growers' was actually the Reseda State Bank.

The third robbery at Armour's Meat Packing plant (located in Albuquerque in the movie) was filmed in Los Angeles proper at 2300 E. Olympic Blvd. Their getaway was filmed on Mateo Street.

After their crime spree the two 'bonnie & clyde' gangsters make their way to Los Angeles.
At one point they stop at a newstand located a 1655 North Las Palmas Ave. (it's still there!). Later they end up at Ocean Park Pier in Santa Monica.

Even though it has nothing to do with locations, I have to mention the almost surreal ending in a misty swamp.
It has to be seen to be believed!


Many of my location details came from:
http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html


and from this small book:
http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Crazy-BFI-.../dp/0851705790

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Do you suppose that same single window in the building next door has been open for the past 69 years?
I noticed that as well. Freaky.
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Tonight on TCM (8:00 eastern time) is a great film noir shot in various locations in Los Angeles County.



The first robbery, famously filmed from the backseat of the getaway car, takes place in a fictional 'Hampton'.
In fact is was filmed in Los Angeles County in Montrose CA.

The second robbery was filmed in Reseda. The store that was robbed, named 'Ranchers Growers' was actually the Reseda State Bank.

The third robbery at Armour's Meat Packing plant (located in Albuquerque in the movie) was filmed in Los Angeles proper at 2300 E. Olympic Blvd. Their getaway was filmed on Mateo Street.

After their crime spree the two 'bonnie & clyde' gangsters make their way to Los Angeles.
At one point they stop at a newstand located a 1655 North Las Palmas Ave. (it's still there!). Later they end up at Ocean Park Pier in Santa Monica.

Even though it has nothing to do with locations, I have to mention the almost surreal ending in a misty swamp.
It has to be seen to be believed!


Many of my location details came from:
http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html


and from this small book:
http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Crazy-BFI-.../dp/0851705790

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Thanks for the head's up, e_r! I'll definitely have to tune in, at least in time for the third robbery and getaway, since Mateo Street is one of our SMK locations and I always love seeing them in other things.
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North Hollywood Railway Station -- built in 1896, photographed in 1927:


[source: Los Angeles Public Library]

Surprisingly, the station still exists:


[source: Los Angeles Daily News]

Even more surprising: restoration work on the station is about to begin!
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Thanks E-R, like Moxie I have a personal connection to Gun Crazy having moved to Reseda when I was 9 yrs old in 1953. I (and my little brother and our best friend Steve) used to ride our bikes right past that bank on our way to Reseda Park to go swimming at the public pool. Just a little country hamlet in those days, many vegetable stands, egg farms and dirt roads. I don't think we wore shoes even one day from early June when school let out til early Septmber when we had to go back.
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very nice memories.



A 1948 bus driver's license Los Angeles CA.



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Handsome_Stranger: It's so great that they're restoring the old North Hollywood Railway Station.
I actually thought it was long gone.
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Well I said I'd do some more before / afters so here they are. I have a good deal more I'm still sorting through.

PLEASE give me some good suggestions through the DTLA area, the higher res the vintage pics the better.



Cliftons 1936 & 2012 by Hunter Kerhart, on Flickr


Rialto 1920s & 2012 by Hunter Kerhart, on Flickr


7th & Grand 1940 & 2012 by Hunter Kerhart, on Flickr


6th & Broadway Patton 1945 & 2012 by Hunter Kerhart, on Flickr


5th & Broadway 1957 & 2012 by Hunter Kerhart, on Flickr
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Speaking of tcm, I just watched The Steel Trap,great movie.I was wondering if the Rivers-Strong Building is still around,its on 9th and main,i found one picture of it on flickr but i dont know how to post it(im still learning).In the movie they have great shots of the PE Terminal's neon,the bank of italy,and a few other lost treasures. here is the link to the flikr post.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerbug/3684999646/
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Well I said I'd do some more before / afters so here they are. I have a good deal more I'm still sorting through.
Those before and afters are great. Nearly perfect "after" angles. While DTLA still looks great, for the most part IMO, the striking difference in activity (signage, peds, streetcars/traffic, etc.) is sad. I'm sure nearly every city in the country would be the exact same way. I just love those streetcars.
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Fantastic, dead-on before-and-afters, HunterK. Really, really excellent work.


LAPL
Google SV

Above is a b & a done the remote way (i.e., with Google Street View): Standard Automotive & Machine
Works in 1929, and a January 2011 view of the building, stripped of a good deal of character but still
standing at 1114 Seward St. in Hollywood.
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Speaking of tcm, I just watched The Steel Trap,great movie.I was wondering if the Rivers-Strong Building is still around,its on 9th and main,i found one picture of it on flickr but i dont know how to post it(im still learning).In the movie they have great shots of the PE Terminal's neon,the bank of italy,and a few other lost treasures. here is the link to the flikr post.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerbug/3684999646/
While working on the computer this afternoon, I also turned on 'The Steel Trap'.
I knew about the vintage New Orleans locations in the movie, but was completely surprised by the Los Angeles locations.
The shot of the Pacific Electric Terminal entrance (shown at the beginning & end of the movie) was great.
In one brief indoor scene you can see the entrance to the Garland Building across the street.

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HunterK, your before/afters are the best I've seen so far! Many thanks for posting them here on 'noirish Los Angeles'.
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Thanks ethereal_reality & GaylordWilshire.

You guys here have in a way changed my life with the wealth of LA history & pictures to go along with it. This is the least I can do.
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Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, better and better! Wow, really good stuff! And some shady characters even. You've got a great eye for this stuff. Thanks. If you've got the time and the subject matter interests you, I'd be interested in seeing how the wholesale vegetable market looks after all these years.
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Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, better and better! Wow, really good stuff! And some shady characters even. You've got a great eye for this stuff. Thanks. If you've got the time and the subject matter interests you, I'd be interested in seeing how the wholesale vegetable market looks after all these years.
Thanks so much!

Wheres the wholesale vegetable market at? Are there any before pics you'd like me to match up as well?

For all photo requests; Anything DTLA I 100% will do, outside of DTLA it's gotta be pretty cool architecturally...
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Thanks so much!

Wheres the wholesale vegetable market at? Are there any before pics you'd like me to match up as well?

For all photo requests; Anything DTLA I 100% will do, outside of DTLA it's gotta be pretty cool architecturally...
Actually Hunter, as soon as I posted that I realised how unphotogenic the market is and how inappropriate it would be for the thread. There is nothing of interest architecturally and it would likely appeal only to someone who had spent any time there. Except for the newer, fancier trucks and new facades and standardized signage little will have changed. Also well out of downtown proper. For general interest here's a little film I found, made a year or two after I'd been and gone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByJCmXEyfAk

Actually, the sweeping panorama at the end is interesting in that it shows the City Hall sitting out there pretty much all alone on the downtown 'skyline' of 1963.

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The Hotel Normandie during a VERY rainy day in 1922.

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=22745
It looks like the Hotel Normandie has resolved its plumbing issues and restoration is going full steam, with eta "Fall 2012."







Notice the Chapman Markets, the subject of a few recent posts.









Evidently, pedestal mounted advertising was very popular in the '20s! (Could the Knight be pointing toward "Dick" Whittington's eye-in-the-sky or future Drones? )


Circa '31
All photos courtesy of https://www.facebook.com/HotelNormandieLA

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Surrounding area ca. '56, with of course the Ambassador and "GWs" namesake. Looking N x NW.

Wilshire and Normandie Ave looking E ca. '47


Wilshire Blvd. looking E from Normandie Ave, ca. '59 (?)


Wilshire "at" Normandie ca. 56 (?)


Construction near Tishman Complex on Wilshire (near Normandie Ave.) ca. '55


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