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Old Posted Mar 30, 2018, 3:24 PM
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The only Southern cultural aspect of Miami, and of most Southern metros these days, largely lie in the African American community there. There's more to Southern culture than slavery, the Confederacy, and racism, especially when slavery existed in the North and racism existed pretty much everywhere else in the country.


Whoever thinks that the South was just a backwards place with no redeeming qualities needs to study up on African American history. For Miami, all you have to do is Google Overtown. The first Southerners who were active in Miami's early development were freed black people from the US and the Bahamas.
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JManc I respectfully disagree with your assertion ( and hope you read my earlier post on this thread)
I have lived in the Miami area going on for nearly 3+ decades and Miami was never founded by Southerners so that culture wasn't there to begin with.

Miami was founded & incorporated in 1896 which was 31 years after the Civil War ended and the founders of the city were from Hyde Park , NY (Henry Flagler) and Cleveland , Ohio (Julia Tuttle)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle
Brickell Avenue is also named after another Cleveland native William Brickell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Brickell
It wasn't settled by Southerners so how did it "underwent their change"?

Since it's inception Miami / SE Florida was never culturally Southern.
It never had a "Southern identity".
Why people want to make it out to be something it's not is beyond me.

Now if people want to play map games? Yeah Miami is in the geographical South of the US.
That is about it !
What the hell do you know about Miami...you only live there.

Seriously. I never been there (only N. Florida) and only go there from what I've read or studied about it so I defer to your insight. BTw, I had no idea that area was that young...1896? Go a few hundred miles north and you have the oldest city in the country.
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Why the fuck is this thread eleven pages long.
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2018, 6:48 AM
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Why the fuck is this thread eleven pages long.
Come on now BNA ! You know we here on SSP have to occasionally talk about other cities besides NYC and Chicago !

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Old Posted Apr 1, 2018, 3:28 PM
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Why the fuck is this thread eleven pages long.
Why not? Besides, the question I posed in the thread's title has yet to be answered in its entirety. I guess people in SSP have little experience in the Caribbean and Latin America.
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Neither. It's in North America.
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It's the Atlantic Ocean... when there's a storm
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It's the Atlantic Ocean... when there's a storm
Yeah... or the everglards.
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Why the fuck is this thread eleven pages long.
It's amazing isn't it?

There is no way in hell Miami is a part of the Caribbean or Latin America when it is actually located in a state of the United States in the southeast region of the U.S.

The arguments why Miami is the only MSA/CSA in the nation that is deserving of their very own special unique region [unlike every single other MSA/CSA] has been fun to read though.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2018, 8:35 AM
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A brief video on Henry Flagler's influence on South Florida :

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